Real world countries in the NV

[chaos control]

Despite the NarutoVerse being a fictional world, there have been a few hints of real world countries existing (or having once existed) in the NV. For example:

1. In the most recent Mitsuki one-shot, adult Mitsuki actually explained that the syllable "Mi" in Mitsuki came from some Chinese zodiac thing (don't remember the whole explanation, but I specifically remember Chinese zodiac). Well consider this: For there to have been a Chinese Zodiac (or a Chinese anything for that matter), wouldn't the country of China have to exist (or at the very least have to have existed at some point in the past) in the NV?

2. This other one was part 1 filler, but I still found it kind of humorous due to a certain irony. The episode was titled "Ino Screams! Chubby Paradise!" and it was season 8, episode 14 of part 1 Naruto. In this episode, Ino and Naruto had to help this chubby girl with her ordeals involving her engagement to this fat guy. Now here is the funny part that also references a real world country that I am talking about:

During one particular scene, the chubby girl asks, "Isn't it so nice to speak American and smell the roses?" or something to that effect. I found it humorous because I was watching subbed (not dubbed), so she was speaking Japanese. Yet she asks if it is nice to speak the language of a country that may or may not exist in the NV, and a language that certainly was not what she was speaking. This girl clearly has no clue about how English sounds (of course I did not watch it dubbed, so I don't know if she says this line in English dub and if she says the same words). Nevertheless, it is still interesting to think about the fact that this line referenced America, which could imply that (like China) America either exists or once existed in the NV (albeit non-canonically since this was filler).


What do you guys think? Just something to think about. If you remember any other references to real life countries in the NV, feel free to post them.

Discuss

 

[Gerkak]

1. A lot of things in Naruto are based on mythologies and beliefs of different people example being the MS abilities, their names being that of shinto deities. A name being similar to a chinese zodiac doesn't mean the nation china exists or even existed in NV but may just be another cultural material kishi threw in there. Asura and Indra are from Hindu beliefs, it doesn't mean India exists or existed in the NV

2. Nothing much to say it was filler made for comedic effect I suppose

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

1. A lot of things in Naruto are based on mythologies and beliefs of different people example being the MS abilities, their names being that of shinto deities. A name being similar to a chinese zodiac doesn't mean the nation china exists or even existed in NV but may just be another cultural material kishi threw in there. Asura and Indra are from Hindu beliefs, it doesn't mean India exists or existed in the NV

2. Nothing much to say it was filler made for comedic effect I suppose

I think best answers your question. good work poster

 

[chaos control]

1. A lot of things in Naruto are based on mythologies and beliefs of different people example being the MS abilities, their names being that of shinto deities. A name being similar to a chinese zodiac doesn't mean the nation china exists or even existed in NV but may just be another cultural material kishi threw in there. Asura and Indra are from Hindu beliefs, it doesn't mean India exists or existed in the NV

2. Nothing much to say it was filler made for comedic effect I suppose

It is true that it probably is just a reference from Kishi to a real life culture, but even then it is still somewhat breaking the 4th wall. Remember , adult Mitsuki specifically said that the syllable came from a Chinese Zodiac. If China never existed in the NV , then Mitsuki is specifically referencing the real world (which bypasses the 4th wall). It is different from the case with Indra and Asura that you mentioned. While it is true that Indra and Asura are gods in Hindu religion , they are still just names when you think about it. You can name a child anything you want without having to actually have some reference in mind. In other words , from Hagoromo's in universe perspective, he could have just come up with the names Indra and Asura on his own without looking into any religions whatsoever. Therefore , there's no 4th wall breaking there. However , Mitsuki referenced a country. A country is different from a name in the sense that you can make up any name that may or may not be similar to a famous name in some institution such as a religion. Regardless of whether or not said institution exists in the world you live in , the name itself still makes sense and is not illogical since you can name a kid anything (and the name doesn't necessarily have to reference anything). For a reference to a country to make sense however, that country would have to exist in some world at some point.

Even if in a different world , the country still has to exist in a way. For example , we all know that Utopia is a fictional country. I could speak the sentence , "We need a government that is like the Utopian government " , and my reference to Utopia would still make sense because Utopia actually exists somewhere (even if that somewhere is just in literature). However , it wouldn't make sense for me to say "Our government should be like the Squiduardian government " because there is no known country (as far as I know) in the real world or in fiction called Squiduardia. In other words , Squiduardia doesn't exist anywhere.

In the same way , for Mitsuki's reference to China to make sense , China would have to exist somewhere (even if not in the NV itself). Now we already know that China does exist (in the real world) , so Mitsuki's reference does make sense. However, if it never existed in the NV , then Mitsuki is breaking the 4th wall by referencing a country from the real world.

Do you see what I mean here?