Was Tobi a stupid idea?

00Rinne

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
May 15, 2015
Messages
2,823
Reaction score
291
Between a clan of merks an assassins... I'm thinking Kakazu,Hidan, an Deidara thought he was there for a reason because, well he's in akatsuki an they're not push over rogue ninja.

Nagato/Konan knew who he was but didn't know his true goal. Otherwise Rinne Nagato could've handled obito.

Godtachi was there to keep an eye on him...so he didn't give two shits. (If Obito got out of line, the god would've handled him as well)

Kisame was all in an knew everything since Obito showed him who he was after the Mizukage manipulation.

All in all... All Tobi was there for was to bring so joy to a crowd of merks!
 

Amazeballs

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
1,610
Reaction score
190
It was to throw the readers off, I guess.

It was all a cheap stunt to throw the readers off. Everyone immediately knew it was Obito, so Kishi threw in a lot of red herrings to convince us that Tobi was Madara, just to make the "Obito" reveal more shocking. None of Tobi's motives/actions make sense in the context of Obito's backstory; he became a new character once he started fighting Naruto.

IMO, it's the single greatest failure in the series. It makes almost everything "Tobi" did from Chapters ~400-550 meaningless, particularly as it relates to Sasuke/the Uchiha.
 
Last edited:

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
It was all a cheap stunt to throw the readers off. Everyone immediately knew it was Obito, so Kishi threw in a lot of red herrings to convince us that Tobi was Madara, just to make the "Obito" reveal more shocking. None of Tobi's motives/actions make sense in the context of Obito's backstory; he became a new character once he started fighting Naruto.

Not everyone. Theorist thought it was either Izuna Uchiha or Kagami Uchiha or entirely new character (because bold).
 

Amazeballs

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 25, 2012
Messages
1,610
Reaction score
190
Not everyone. Theorist thought it was either Izuna Uchiha or Kagami Uchiha or entirely new character (because bold).

Well, sure, but those were after we had accepted all of the red herrings as at least partially true (whereas they were almost completely false, and many of them blatantly contradicted Obito's War Arc motives). But right after "Tobi" showed up in his mask, with Obito's haircut, it seemed pretty clear who he was. It was shortly after the Kakashi backstory.
 

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
Well, sure, but those were after we had accepted all of the red herrings as at least partially true (whereas they were almost completely false, and many of them blatantly contradicted Obito's War Arc motives). But right after "Tobi" showed up in his mask, with Obito's haircut, it seemed pretty clear who he was. It was shortly after the Kakashi backstory.

That was the problem. Everyone who said it was Obito had evidence that said the "haircut was the same". That was all the was going off of.
 

Alien X

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jan 25, 2016
Messages
947
Reaction score
77
The manga has ended. Tobi = Obito. If you haven't accept that, I can't help you. :|

I meant that "fake" side of him. I do remember that half of obito was re-constructed from those failed clones....
 
Last edited:

BlacLord™

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jun 7, 2012
Messages
16,201
Reaction score
1,503
Akatsuki one of the most feared organization in the shinobi world with nearly all kage level members with tragic backstorys.... Then Tobi comes and is suppose to replace Sasori like really... I understand he was the true leader and he was Obito but what was the point of it?

Itachi knew the truth
Kisame was either in a genjutsu or didnt care
Hidan i doubt would care
Same with Kakuzu
Nagato(pain) and konan played along
Deidara was the only one in the dark about it all but why?
Orichimaru probaly wanted his eye but he obvioulsy isnt a threat...


Discuss

Because those outside looking in would never suspect that Tobi would be the leader, so they might go on to kill Pein thinking that's the end (Akatsuki would fall apart), allowing Obito to fall off the radar and carry on getting his plans into place. The advantage of keeping as many inside the organization in the dark, was that it reduced the chances of an intel leak.

Kisame was willing to bite his tongue off and even commit suicide to stop the truth coming out... could you see Deidara, Hidan or Oro doing the same? Course not, they value their own lives too much.
 

lord seventh

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 2, 2016
Messages
1,571
Reaction score
112

It isn't a rocket science when it came to fight itachi is one ofthe smartest character he always be two steps ahead of tobi and when he got the opening totsuka GG on the other hand I don't think tobi have any such moves to solo itachi
 

kimb

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Aug 22, 2012
Messages
4,499
Reaction score
554
Tobi being Obito made his character complete shit IMO
 

Avaitto

#mangafacts
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
3,840
Reaction score
547
Because, Totsuka is faster than Kamui. I already proved it and I can prove it again.

It isn't a rocket science when it came to fight itachi is one ofthe smartest character he always be two steps ahead of tobi and when he got the opening totsuka GG on the other hand I don't think tobi have any such moves to solo itachi

Cool.
 

ItachiDaSoloKing

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
5,691
Reaction score
485
It isn't a rocket science when it came to fight itachi is one ofthe smartest character he always be two steps ahead of tobi and when he got the opening totsuka GG on the other hand I don't think tobi have any such moves to solo itachi

It is impossible to solo Itachi as Lord Kishimoto has written. ^_^
 

Umari Senju

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
12,535
Reaction score
1,192
Obito was pretending to be Tobi, while also pretending to be Madara. He was basically hidden in plain sight. It wasn't stupid. :|

I agree. No one would suspect a silly guy like Tobi to be the mastermind behind everything so to speak. It was actually well done.

I don't think it's Tobi people hated but the fact that he was revealed to be Obito. That...kind of ruined it for a ton of people
 
Top