[Predictions] Naruto Manga 501 Discussion and 502 Predictions

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

the first hokage was the strongest hokage, it is absolute!! i say this not with my feelings, but through observation!!, although one thing im not certain of yet since we havnt seen narutos new powers yet, if naruto has supassed the first hokage yet or not.

i think maybe...

I think Naruto is destined to be stronger than the 1st but the thing will be whether at the end of the manga whether Naruto will become even stronger than the S06P that's something I am looking forward to

 

[Scorps]

Kakashi and might-guy, yamato and maybe neji too cant kill alone akatsuki members... their chakras too low... think before write.....

Neiji could beat konan and sasori... and sorry, but yamato is strong. really strong. he could beat deidara, sasori, hidan, konan and who knows what else... And i do think before i write...If you don't agree, say so, but don't insult me...it's not very "polite"...especially since i didn't insult anyone here...

 

[~Tempa E~]

Yes you are right Kishi overdid things a bit. When Sasori fought granny Chiyo and Sakura at the end elder Chiyo said that Sasori saw through the last attack but for "some reason" he didn't attack also Sakura got the time to make the antidote. I think the ones from Konoha who actually can win any Akatsuki members head on is Jiraiya,Orochimaru(though both of them died but just recently), Tsunade, Kakashi and of course Naruto. Gai might have a chance but I don't know about Yamato but Neji is STILL not on those levels but he should reach those awesome Kage levels one day

i think you all forget that kabuto is another one from the hidden leaf who may be able to kill akatsuki in his current from as some may now hes somehow now got orochimarus powers. but i still believe before this he could still have beaten akatsuki as none of us have seen his fukll powers yet as he held bak on both naruto and tsunade

 

[Hipster Madara]

I'm honestly sick of silenceollambs and yondaimeminato fighting contsantly
in yondaimeminato thinks minato is the best ever great! if silence of the lambs doesnt agree then dont and move on with ur life lol

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

I'm honestly sick of silenceollambs and yondaimeminato fighting contsantly
in yondaimeminato thinks minato is the best ever great! if silence of the lambs doesnt agree then dont and move on with ur life lol

ya they do tend to suck up a thread with that arguement.im surprised they havent killed any due to this lol.that arguement should be put on hold untill we see what happens in the manga this or next week when its shown

 

[Scorps]

About next chapter... I still believe that that night, danzou had a part to play. He was the one who gave information to Madara. He tought that Madara would unleash the fox from kushina. It would then destroy a lot of Konoha. Then Minato would be out of the picture. Why? Simple, if he managed to surpress the fox and survive, the seeds of mistrust in his ability to protect the village would have been planted, so danzou could mine his position as Hokage and become Hokage himself. And the other scenerio would be the one that actually happened, Minato stopped the fox but died, leaving the position of hokage free to danzo.

It's the the same thing he did to tsunade. The diference is that he wasn't the responsible for Pain being in the Village. But he stopped the frog from getting help, trusting that Tsunade would save all the citizens but would die in the process, leaving the position of hokage free for him. And this time, all worked as he wanted.

Sarutobi was the one who was chosen for Hokage after Minato died. And since Danzo was afraid of Sarutobi (being the one who knew him better, posibly knowing he had been a subject of orochimaru's experiments) he laid low untill a time that was right. When Sarutobi died, he didn't surface to claim the spot, because Jiraya was aclaimed as the one to become hokage. And danzo would be afraid of jiraya, knowing he was a Sage. But when he least expected, Jiraya chose Tsunade. And then, danzo just laid low until she was out of the picture.

So, next chapter (or the one after) I think we will find out that Danzo helped Madara somehow. Maybe not directly, but he did.

What do you think?

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

About next chapter... I still believe that that night, danzou had a part to play. He was the one who gave information to Madara. He tought that Madara would unleash the fox from kushina. It would then destroy a lot of Konoha. Then Minato would be out of the picture. Why? Simple, if he managed to surpress the fox and survive, the seeds of mistrust in his ability to protect the village would have been planted, so danzou could mine his position as Hokage and become Hokage himself. And the other scenerio would be the one that actually happened, Minato stopped the fox but died, leaving the position of hokage free to danzo.

It's the the same thing he did to tsunade. The diference is that he wasn't the responsible for Pain being in the Village. But he stopped the frog from getting help, trusting that Tsunade would save all the citizens but would die in the process, leaving the position of hokage free for him. And this time, all worked as he wanted.

Sarutobi was the one who was chosen for Hokage after Minato died. And since Danzo was afraid of Sarutobi (being the one who knew him better, posibly knowing he had been a subject of orochimaru's experiments) he laid low untill a time that was right. When Sarutobi died, he didn't surface to claim the spot, because Jiraya was aclaimed as the one to become hokage. And danzo would be afraid of jiraya, knowing he was a Sage. But when he least expected, Jiraya chose Tsunade. And then, danzo just laid low until she was out of the picture.

So, next chapter (or the one after) I think we will find out that Danzo helped Madara somehow. Maybe not directly, but he did.

What do you think?

i believe these things as well

 

[culinaryg]

About next chapter... I still believe that that night, danzou had a part to play. He was the one who gave information to Madara. He tought that Madara would unleash the fox from kushina. It would then destroy a lot of Konoha. Then Minato would be out of the picture. Why? Simple, if he managed to surpress the fox and survive, the seeds of mistrust in his ability to protect the village would have been planted, so danzou could mine his position as Hokage and become Hokage himself. And the other scenerio would be the one that actually happened, Minato stopped the fox but died, leaving the position of hokage free to danzo.

It's the the same thing he did to tsunade. The diference is that he wasn't the responsible for Pain being in the Village. But he stopped the frog from getting help, trusting that Tsunade would save all the citizens but would die in the process, leaving the position of hokage free for him. And this time, all worked as he wanted.

Sarutobi was the one who was chosen for Hokage after Minato died. And since Danzo was afraid of Sarutobi (being the one who knew him better, posibly knowing he had been a subject of orochimaru's experiments) he laid low untill a time that was right. When Sarutobi died, he didn't surface to claim the spot, because Jiraya was aclaimed as the one to become hokage. And danzo would be afraid of jiraya, knowing he was a Sage. But when he least expected, Jiraya chose Tsunade. And then, danzo just laid low until she was out of the picture.

So, next chapter (or the one after) I think we will find out that Danzo helped Madara somehow. Maybe not directly, but he did.

What do you think?

well sarutobi wasnt chosen to be hokage after minato

it goes 3rd then 4th , otherwise minato woulodve been 3rd hokage

 

[Steinbiz]

Tobirama was killed by twenty Kumogakure master bounty hunters; I'm sure that any person wouldn't live long in the same situation. The Iwagakure ninja Minato defeated, this could have been done by many other ninja beside just him; they were not that high-ranking of ninjas. Now, if Minato were facing 50 Kumogakure master bounty hunters, do you think he would defeat them all? And he did not defeat them all by himself - he had other ninja throwing kunai at the enemy to distract them so Minato could defeat them, so yes, he did have assistance. Next, even if Minato did receive information that there were a thousand enemy ninja on the front line, that doesn't mean he singlehandedly killed them all. You cannot use his words like that to fit your argument.

You say that everything you know about the Third Hokage is just from conversations that people had? If you recall, he fought Orochimaru during Sunagakure's invasion of Konoha, who also summoned Hashirama and Tobirama to take care of him. Is this not a battle where Sarutobi was forced to use all his strength? Incorrect facts again from you. If Minato were to go up against the same opponents, the results would be worse. For one, Minato doesn't know as many techniques as Sarutobi does, and secondly, if he tries defeating Orochimaru with speed, remember that there are two revived corpses, the two most powerful Hokages in history, that he must deal with.

During Madara's battle with Hashirama, Madara's objective was to take revenge against Konoha, so eventually he would have to make an attack (as shown in the manga), and as Fu and Torune said, counterattack makes him susceptible to defeat, in one sense or another. Once again, you are simply assuming that Madara did not have his space-time ability then; what is to suggest that he didn't? Provide evidence of your claim, otherwise it holds no ground. The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan does not make one invincible, unable to be harmed; your observation that he got hit a considerable amount with the doujutsu should be obvious. Once again, nothing in the manga suggests that the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan makes the user impervious to harm, so users, naturally, are going to be physically hurt. Despite the extraordinary speed Madara has, he is not going to be able to use it in all occasions, so of course we are not going to see it every time Madara is shown in the manga. And Madara's face is not "messed up" in the link you provided; he is simply roaring while battling a tough opponent. And in the last link you showed, Madara was, of course, making attacks to try and defeat Hashirama, so while Madara made himself corporeal, Hashirama could have stabbed him in that moment, thus defeating him. Just because he was impaled does not mean that Madara did not have his space-time ninjutsu back then; when two opponents battle, they will physical contact, in one form or another. But it does not mean what you are trying to say in your post. That is just another assumption.

no point in argueing with you, you're so anti-minato it's not even funny. every post you've written on this website is about why minato sucks against madara. get over trying to convince yourself. sorry noone agrees with you, just deal with it.

P.S. can't wait to hear your flamed response

 

[donnic]

hey does anyone think the new ch. will NOT come out this week

 

[silenceofthelambs]

no point in argueing with you, you're so anti-minato it's not even funny. every post you've written on this website is about why minato sucks against madara. get over trying to convince yourself. sorry noone agrees with you, just deal with it.

P.S. can't wait to hear your flamed response

Do you insult everyone that doesn't believe Minato is the strongest character in the series? I don't understand why you opened the "Minato vs. Madara" thread if you were so one-sided and intended to force your opinion down everyone's throats. There was no room for discussion there at all; more than half the users, like you, spent posts there yelling at each other simply for opinions they held.

It's not that I'm "anti-Minato," it's just that all the hype surrounding him has gotten out of hand. Frequent declarations that he is so "badass" and is "the strongest Hokage ever" are just overenthusiastic fans who have no idea what they're talking about. I think Minato is an impressive character in the series, no doubt, yet you have to recognize the fact that his early death prevented him from reaching the potential he might have seen years later. That's why he did not have enough power (leaving the Rasengan unfinished, for example) to challenge some of the more powerful characters in the series.

You tell me there's no point in arguing with me; why then, are you still doing so? Besides, if you think I'm "flaming," you might want to read some of your posts just to get a grasp on what you're actually saying. If we can end this peacefully, all the better; but I can see that ego is preventing you from getting along with a lot of people. If you consider what people have to say without entirely rejecting it, it would help you a great deal in the future. It's dangerous to assume others don't know the things you might want to learn in the future. But like I said, I don't want this to devolve into another giant clash; many more threads before this one have shown what happens when those begin.

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

no more minato/madara talk guys.its pointless.just wait till wednesday and things will be a little more clear.either this week or nxt week should give the answer to this.so lets not get so worked up over something that CANNOT be proven yet.like i said,YET.just be paatient guys and wait for the chapter

 

[baah]

hey does anyone think the new ch. will NOT come out this week

i dont think so...usually the latest chapter has an advisory on the ending page...and 501 have none.... there has to be a Chap this week....otherwise Minato/Madara argument will drag on.....sigh

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

i dont think so...usually the latest chapter has an advisory on the ending page...and 501 have none.... there has to be a Chap this week....otherwise Minato/Madara argument will drag on.....sigh

ya it'll be coming out

 

[~Anubis~]

I hope it comes out soon

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

i think you all forget that kabuto is another one from the hidden leaf who may be able to kill akatsuki in his current from as some may now hes somehow now got orochimarus powers. but i still believe before this he could still have beaten akatsuki as none of us have seen his fukll powers yet as he held bak on both naruto and tsunade

I was talking about Konoha ninjas

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

i think you all forget that kabuto is another one from the hidden leaf who may be able to kill akatsuki in his current from as some may now hes somehow now got orochimarus powers. but i still believe before this he could still have beaten akatsuki as none of us have seen his fukll powers yet as he held bak on both naruto and tsunade

ya right before he got rasenganed

 

[~Anubis~]

Ya kabuto is something dude.may be he will be the leader of akatsuki after the death of madara

 

[baah]

I guess Minato was already inaugurated as the 4th....while 3rd is still alive.... characters in 501 address minato as the 4th eventhough 3rd was still their... i guess 3rd was about to pass the hokage title to minato...but then he died so 3rd was forced to lead konoha for 16 more years...

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

I guess Minato was already inaugurated as the 4th....while 3rd is still alive.... characters in 501 address minato as the 4th eventhough 3rd was still their... i guess 3rd was about to pass the hokage title to minato...but then he died so 3rd was forced to lead konoha for 16 more years...

it's common for a kage to name a successor and be an inactive kage while the newer takes over.