Naruto is a mix of asspulls and plot twists by Kishmoto...

[HashiraMadara]

*All Indra's incarnates were uchihas. pure dojutsu clan. All uchiha. Everything sasuke has is rightfully making sense.

*Naruto born with no kekke genkai. Nothing related him to the Senju until Kishi twisted some sh*t to force relatons. He had no mokuton nothing what so ever. Some how ashura's descendants split into 2 clans.

*Hashi was known to easily subdue all bijuus with his own beingness and had beastly power and chakra. He beat madara in whatever power up he gets. Naruto on the other hand was everage till the end. even now he's an average ninja with beastly bijuu chakra with RSM

In the end, Your Father is a Namikaze and a plot is twisted to force you into being your mother's clan. KISHIMOTO RAPED US

Sasuke: whatever hand outs he had were deserved as he is from Uchiha, there was no plot twist to force to relate. he was from the start.

 

[lord seventh]

If thats the case then why sasuke adopt the curse seal that well even though CS linked to senju while sasuke is uchiha...that is also a plot-twist

 

[SenseiSama]

Not asspulls since they can be explained, Ashura most likely had two children and his body traits divided between them, Kishi is known to divide power between children.

One child would have inherited the Gedo traits and life force, the other would have inherited the Juubi's KKG and large chakra reserves, both would have potential to learn high level Senjutsu. Hashirama and Naruto combined form both halves of Ashura's body.

Hashi and Madara's power levels weren't asspulls, they were both equal. You should know by now that using a bijuu as a weapon is no different to using a sword in a fight.

Madara used his dojutsu to its full extent just as Hashi used his Sage Mode at full power, in the end they both fought until they were on the verge of death in base mode. And they both survived the fight, they were equal.

You claim Naruto is an average shinobi but blatantly ignore he can use Kage rank jutsu ever since he was a child. He doesn't need any other technique because Rasengan and RS have negged every opponent he's ever faced.

And his ability as a Jinchuuriki comes from having Kushina's blood and Uzumaki genes which descend from Ashura, so your claim Minato is the only reason is strong is BS.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

This is how you roast a thread ^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

Not asspulls since they can be explained, Ashura most likely had two children and his body traits divided between them, Kishi is known to divide power between children.

One child would have inherited the Gedo traits and life force, the other would have inherited the Juubi's KKG and large chakra reserves, both would have potential to learn high level Senjutsu. Hashirama and Naruto combined form both halves of Ashura's body.

Hashi and Madara's power levels weren't asspulls, they were both equal. You should know by now that using a bijuu as a weapon is no different to using a sword in a fight.

Madara used his dojutsu to its full extent just as Hashi used his Sage Mode at full power, in the end they both fought until they were on the verge of death in base mode. And they both survived the fight, they were equal.

You claim Naruto is an average shinobi but blatantly ignore he can use Kage rank jutsu ever since he was a child. He doesn't need any other technique because Rasengan and RS have negged every opponent he's ever faced.

And his ability as a Jinchuuriki comes from having Kushina's blood and Uzumaki genes which descend from Ashura, so your claim Minato is the only reason is strong is BS.

You're answering sh*t I didn't even ask... :|

*Why is Naruto called Uzumaki yet Sarada is named Uchiha? :|

*"possible that Ashura had 2 children" bullsh*t you're just expanding Kishi's fanfic sh*t, none of that is mangafact

*Using a bijuu is just like using a sword, Tell me if you believe that yourself, I won't even argue against :|

*Madara and Hashi were equals? :| beaten in pissing, skipping stones, taijutsu, in women, ninjutsu, family, In the VOTE... How is that being equal?????

*Taju kage bushin/multi shadow clone Kage level right? tell me you believe that scaling.

*Rasen negged everyone because plot required it to do so :|

*I claimed Minato as being naruto's power source? Check your understanding of English

 

[lord seventh]

This is how you roast a thread ^^^^^^^^^^^

I love roasted stuff...lol

 

[HashiraMadara]

This is how you roast a thread ^^^^^^^^^^^

If you have some mental illness then yes, that's how you roast a thread

 

[Avani]

In the end, Your Father is a Namikaze and a plot is twisted to force you into being your mother's clan. KISHIMOTO RAPED US

Force? Nah if someone is feeling raped because of that name it's only you. I have no problem with him having his mother's clan name. Haku and Nagato also were known by the name of their mother's clan. Not just in this manga verse but if you see Bleach - Ichigo and his family also carries his mother's name. It's may not be common but it's not that big a deal either.

If you have some mental illness then yes, that's how you roast a thread

What a clever and witty come back! :|

Do I need to link you to the rules?

 

[HashiraMadara]

Force? Nah if someone is feeling raped because of that name it's only you. I have no problem with him having his mother's clan name. Haku and Nagato also were known by the name of their mother's clan. Not just in this manga verse but if you see Bleach - Ichigo and his family also carries his mother's name. It's may not be common but it's not that big a deal either.

No It's a very big deal!!!!

A Huge plot slap: Luffy is Monkey that's his father's line
Portgas D. Ace was changed to Gol D. Ace in his death!, since the truth came
Sarada is not Haruno
Himwari and Boruto are both "uzumaki" not Hyuga
Edward and Alphonse exhibit Xerxes traits where their father is originally from(nothing from their mother)
Nagato's mother was a red head that's as far as the facts go, the father was said nothing about being a uzumaki or not




on the come back and rules part, I am sure we have no children here, we can both agree on that :|

 

[chintu234]

In India, in some town of Tamil nadu having the surname of the mother is main practice over there.
So this thing is applied on naruto too nothing bad or wrong.

 

[lord seventh]

In India, in some town of Tamil nadu having the surname of the mother is main practice over there.
So this thing is applied on naruto too nothing bad or wrong.

Yeah...I live in India and agree with that
Its not common though but also its not a really big deal to take mother's name

 

[Avani]

In India, in some town of Tamil nadu having the surname of the mother is main practice over there.
So this thing is applied on naruto too nothing bad or wrong.

In Manipur too.


Similar for Japan- one can take either name- they just have to register the whole family under singular name. Internet says previously too they adopted the name of whichever of the two clans was better known/powerful or higher in status or made their prospects better when married.

No It's a very big deal!!!!

A Huge plot slap: Luffy is Monkey that's his father's line
Portgas D. Ace was changed to Gol D. Ace in his death!, since the truth came
Sarada is not Haruno
Himwari and Boruto are both "uzumaki" not Hyuga
Edward and Alphonse exhibit Xerxes traits where their father is originally from(nothing from their mother)
Nagato's mother was a red head that's as far as the facts go, the father was said nothing about being a uzumaki or not



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That's silly argument. How about you google how the Japaneses family names work instead of arguing here? It's not like we have a responsibility to school you.

on the come back and rules part, I am sure we have no children here, we can both agree on that :

Well then act like a mature person and not a child- that means following the rules without being reminded.

 

[Honord Sage]

Indra was a Loser and He set the failure bar for all the Uchiha's.

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

Not asspulls since they can be explained, Ashura most likely had two children and his body traits divided between them, Kishi is known to divide power between children.

One child would have inherited the Gedo traits and life force, the other would have inherited the Juubi's KKG and large chakra reserves, both would have potential to learn high level Senjutsu. Hashirama and Naruto combined form both halves of Ashura's body.

Hashi and Madara's power levels weren't asspulls, they were both equal. You should know by now that using a bijuu as a weapon is no different to using a sword in a fight.

Madara used his dojutsu to its full extent just as Hashi used his Sage Mode at full power, in the end they both fought until they were on the verge of death in base mode. And they both survived the fight, they were equal.

You claim Naruto is an average shinobi but blatantly ignore he can use Kage rank jutsu ever since he was a child. He doesn't need any other technique because Rasengan and RS have negged every opponent he's ever faced.

And his ability as a Jinchuuriki comes from having Kushina's blood and Uzumaki genes which descend from Ashura, so your claim Minato is the only reason is strong is BS.

this is beautiful :T_T:

but I do agree with OP that naruto has too many asspulls

 

[JENchuuriki]

Well then whatever his lineage/power, he worked hard to get him where he is now... (sasuke worked too, but he's a genius and prodigy from the start)
taming the kyubi and getting its hatred - which he can now better control its power
even though he was the son of the fourth, the villagers ostracized him - but he hold no grugde against them and still saved the village
he lacked talent but he proved them wrong - he trained very hard and achieve his power

You're wrong, that's not what makes a shinobi. You never did get it, a real ninja is one who endures no matter what gets thrown at him... Let me explain something to you, there is only one thing that matters if you are a shinobi, and it isn't the number of jutsu you possess. All you do need, is the guts to never give up. - Jiraiya-sensei

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

No It's a very big deal!!!!

A Huge plot slap: Luffy is Monkey that's his father's line
Portgas D. Ace was changed to Gol D. Ace in his death!, since the truth came
Sarada is not Haruno
Himwari and Boruto are both "uzumaki" not Hyuga
Edward and Alphonse exhibit Xerxes traits where their father is originally from(nothing from their mother)
Nagato's mother was a red head that's as far as the facts go, the father was said nothing about being a uzumaki or not




on the come back and rules part, I am sure we have no children here, we can both agree on that :|

It's explained why Naruto is Uzumaki, not Namikaze. He's Uzumaki so that any enemies of Minato wouldn't know who he was if they wanted to get revenge on Minato.


Oh, and arguing with the global mod about rules isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[HashiraMadara]

My aunts were given my grandma's maiden surname and sons in the family had my grandpa's. Both picked by my grandpa - he just chose the softer looking surname for the girls when filling school form. Both names are used by the same community so end result was not even important.

:shrug:

We started with Naruto and anime and we're now here :| You said I was immature... _@:

I was discussing a simple fact of how the protagonist's lineage was thoroughly changed to accommodate his handed powers and try to link him to hagoromo!

Sasuke was an uchiha from the start, pure uchiha with mother and father uchiha, that gives him a clear passage to be linked to hagoromo..

Naruto's lineage was twisted and turned so by all means he can connect to hagoromo... The Pain arc was a clear opening of the door to asspull world: the idea being "bring a child of prophecy thought to be so and instead naruto was one sort of twist"

If you fail to see plot twists and turns made to hand Naruto powers then I give up on you IRA

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

What did I just read....:wut:

 

[HashiraMadara]

It's explained why Naruto is Uzumaki, not Namikaze. He's Uzumaki so that any enemies of Minato wouldn't know who he was if they wanted to get revenge on Minato.

^^^^^^^^ is the only Manga Fact so far... I wrote this thread fully aware of it...

The argument could be made that Why not make him a Minakaze that is not related to the yellow fang

 

[HENI]

That's true. Naruto uses Kurama's powers for mostly everything. He has no power on his own. Even Luffy from One Piece uses his own power. Naruto would be dead if it was not for Kurama. The series should be called Kurama.