Itachi is the most unrealistic character in NV

[Vulpini]

I'm going to leave it to y'all to discus, but I'll just name a few things.

There are psychopaths in the word like Madara and Orochimaru.
There are young people who go down the wrong path and become criminals. sasuke, sasori, etc
There are schizophrenics like obito and gaara.
There are terrorists (deidara).
There are dictators like saddam, Stalin, etc like danzo.
There are people who love attention due to being ostracized NARUTO.

And so on and so on, Kakashi is also very realistic as he's a good example of how a good person deals with losses. All the kages have fairly realistic personalities, even other prodigies have had a matching personality and goal.

Itachi was rushed Af, when kishi wanted to change him to a good guy, sure he had a pretty hard life, but compared to people in nv and even billions irl it really wasn't the worst childhood ever. He killed his own clan and sacrificed himself, and there are different ways to protect his little brother, there's absolutely nobody who would just chose to end their future for a village that ****ed him over and took advantage of his passive nature, he didn't even get any rewards or benefits from killing his family, the least he could have done is take Sasuke and leave the village and stay out of it (maybe warn elders about details if he wants the uchihas to lose so bad) then stay away for a while till it's over. And instead of talking to Sasuke he makes him hate him so he can get stronger, horrible writing.

Stopped @bold.

Okay, then if what you're saying is true where have you seen a psychopath doing this?

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[Pumpkin Ninja]

What KingHashirama said. Forget about Itachi the peace loving child slaughterer. What about Hitler 1 and Hitler 2 aka Danzo and Hiruzen, let's talk about those guys.

Agreed. When Itachi became wiser than Kage at age 6 he became unreal. People would struggle and die before they take orders from two Hitlers. Are you telling me the genius sage God Itachi couldn't convince his fellow clansmen fodder that their plans were futile?

Regardless, Itachi is one of my faves.

 

[Exaar]

the least he could have done is take Sasuke and leave the village and stay out of it .

If he took sasuke with him and stayed out of it, he would of been branded a traitor/deserter and both he and sasuke would be constantly hunted and have prices on their heads. If he stayed out of it, Both his parents, Family and friends would of died traitors instead of dying as a noble clan of konoha in the peoples eyes.
It's not a simple case of staying out of the way.

Also are you trying to say, Simply ignoring the problem, leaving the village with sasuke and allowing the civil war to break out which puts not just the uchiha clan and leaf village in danger of complete annihilation while causing the deaths of thousands of innocent men, Women and children and putting the entire fire country in danger and a possibility of this sparking another great shinobi war would've of been a better plan of action for itachi?

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If he took sasuke with him and stayed out of it, he would of been branded a traitor/deserter and both he and sasuke would be constantly hunted and have prices on their heads. If he stayed out of it, Both his parents, Family and friends would of died traitors instead of dying as a noble clan of konoha in the peoples eyes.
It's not a simple case of staying out of the way.

Also are you trying to say, Simply ignoring the problem, leaving the village with sasuke and allowing the civil war to break out which puts not just the uchiha clan and leaf village in danger of complete annihilation while causing the deaths of thousands of innocent men, Women and children and putting the entire fire country in danger and a possibility of this sparking another great shinobi war would've of been a better plan of action for itachi?

I really don't see how guys who were slaughtered by two people can kill thousands of people when the Leaf village was aware of the Coup.

 

[KingHashirama]

What KingHashirama said. Forget about Itachi the peace loving child slaughterer. What about Hitler 1 and Hitler 2 aka Danzo and Hiruzen, let's talk about those guys.

Agreed. When Itachi became wiser than Kage at age 6 he became unreal. People would struggle and die before they take orders from two Hitlers. Are you telling me the genius sage God Itachi couldn't convince his fellow clansmen fodder that their plans were futile?

Regardless, Itachi is one of my faves.

No no no bro.

More like Hitler (danzo) and Neville Chamberlain (hiruzen)

 

[Exaar]

I really don't see how guys who were slaughtered by two people can kill thousands of people when the Leaf village was aware of the Coup.

It's not just the fighting between the Clan and the village that would be the problem.

If and when other villages hear of this, Is when stuff really gets bad. If another village notices a chance to take down one of the 5 nations of power and their bijuu and even possibly get their hands of a few sharingan/Byakugans/other clan secrets while they're at it, i'm sure they would be very quick to act.

Even possibly causing wars between the other 4 villages fighting each other for the spoils.

Also the uchiha clan was attacked at night and completely caught off guard.

 

[King Of Pop]

It's not just the fighting between the Clan and the village that would be the problem.

If and when other villages hear of this, Is when stuff really gets bad. If another village notices a chance to take down one of the 5 nations of power and their bijuu and even possibly get their hands of a few sharingan/Byakugans/other clan secrets while they're at it, i'm sure they would be very quick to act.

Even possibly causing wars between the other 4 villages fighting each other for the spoils.

Also the uchiha clan was attacked at night and completely caught off guard.

pein destroyed the village and left it in ruins, the leaf was pretty vulnerable military wise at that point yet no village sought to attack. the same was true after oro invaded it back then, no village capitilized. going by that it is not necessarily a certainty that so called war against the leaf from others would have ensured if the coup did take place. i just feel its extra talk to try and justify itachis actions but later events show that it might not have been the case.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

pein destroyed the village and left it in ruins, the leaf was pretty vulnerable military wise at that point yet no village sought to attack. the same was true after oro invaded it back then, no village capitilized. going by that it is not necessarily a certainty that so called war against the leaf from others would have ensured if the coup did take place. i just feel its extra talk to try and justify itachis actions but later events show that it might not have been the case.

Agreed. Also, there would be nothing to capitalize on if the anbu attacked the Uchiha by themselves and put the blame on Itachi. I mean they would have caught them off guard too.

Still, the thing that irks me is their shitty reasoning as to why diplomacy didn't work if they have a leader who's all about the will of fire and all that bullshit. Hiruzen was a scumbag.

 

[King Of Pop]

Agreed. Also, there would be nothing to capitalize on if the anbu attacked the Uchiha by themselves and put the blame on Itachi. I mean they would have caught them off guard too.

Still, the thing that irks me is their shitty reasoning as to why diplomacy didn't work if they have a leader who's all about the will of fire and all that bullshit. Hiruzen was a scumbag.

true, hence why hiruzen for me was one of the worst hokages among them all. his tenure was characterized by weakness and pure incompetence on his part. if he had a bit of guts, perhaps just perhaps things might not have gone the way it did.

 

[true enigma]

Itachi soloes this logic.

And soloes your fav

 

[Nick01]

I agree with half.

 

[Remedy]

true, hence why hiruzen for me was one of the worst hokages among them all. his tenure was characterized by weakness and pure incompetence on his part. if he had a bit of guts, perhaps just perhaps things might not have gone the way it did.

I can most def agree with this, why people look down upon Tobirama and not Hiruzen first is besides me.

 

[sandman20]

I'm not looking for realism in a Shonen manga to begin with so :sdo:

 

[Aquaglow]

Yeah I said that, you clearly have either been sheltered or don't interact with many types of people. THERE ARE BILLIONS of people who had a horrible childhood growing up, worse than itachi's. He saw people die and grew up in war, so far I personally can match that.

Like idk why you're so surprised to see someone comment that, like seriously? How old are you? Some people here act like some naruto characters have had worse trauma than anyone to ever exist, which is false.

Outside of first world countries, many societies are filled with absolute poverty (which isn't existent in Europe and NA), mass murders, civil war, war, etc...

Even in first world countries, many people grow up in dysfunctional families, abuse, drug addiction, rape, and many things. So seeing a few people die as a child is indeed traumatic, however, he still had a supportive family, loving brother, food, education, and safety (for te ninja world at least). Many people don't have that, even as kids.

Exactly! He understood these traumas of other people despite living in a peacefull home! To save the people of the village from all that he sacrificed his loving peaceful life! That makes him a very unique character! You answered your own question!

 

[Chie]

Chie, Chie, Chie!!!! I am neutral on the realistic/unrealistic part on his char.

I was summoned?! Okay, whatever happens in this thread is now your fault.

I'm going to leave it to y'all to discus, but I'll just name a few things.

Okay, let's have a fun discussion.

There are psychopaths in the word like Madara and Orochimaru.

Madara rambled on about being so for his clan but when things got tough, he left them. He could have just killed Tobirama instead as he was strong enough to & take the Hokage seat or if he didn't do the latter, at least his clan would be safer under anyone else really. He didn't. He instead opted to attack the village repeatedly which led more people to generalize about the Uchiha. Counterproductive.

Madara also rambled on about bringing peace but enjoyed "crushing skulls". Contradictory.

Orochimaru dropped his goal of destroying the village (and we never know why he wanted to) and is now considered a relatively "okay" guy despite all of his crimes (human experimentation, baby killing, etc).

There are young people who go down the wrong path and become criminals. sasuke, sasori, etc
There are schizophrenics like obito and gaara.

Obito and Gaara both changed rather easily due to Naruto's speeches. No real therapy or medication required.

There are terrorists (deidara).
There are dictators like saddam, Stalin, etc like danzo.
There are people who love attention due to being ostracized NARUTO.

I haven't met anyone on the level of Naruto as far as attention seeking goes. What person would hunt down someone they only knew for 7 months and scream at wanting to acknowledge them.

And so on and so on, Kakashi is also very realistic as he's a good example of how a good person deals with losses. All the kages have fairly realistic personalities, even other prodigies have had a matching personality and goal.

Kakashi supported the same ninja system which led to his father's suicide when his father was apparently everything to him as a child. He is by far one of the most unrealistic characters in this manga.

Itachi was rushed Af, when kishi wanted to change him to a good guy, sure he had a pretty hard life, but compared to people in nv and even billions irl it really wasn't the worst childhood ever. He killed his own clan and sacrificed himself, and there are different ways to protect his little brother, there's absolutely nobody who would just chose to end their future for a village that ****ed him over and took advantage of his passive nature, he didn't even get any rewards or benefits from killing his family, the least he could have done is take Sasuke and leave the village and stay out of it (maybe warn elders about details if he wants the uchihas to lose so bad) then stay away for a while till it's over. And instead of talking to Sasuke he makes him hate him so he can get stronger, horrible writing.

A full manga volume, numerous manga chapters afterwards the reveal over the course of 6 years, two novels, and an anime adaptation is hardly rushed.

I have never heard of any 13 yr old double agent who had to kill his/her family in real life. No, there is no "worse" childhood. Losing one's parent is already painful but actually having to kill them and live with that sin? On another level that you and no one else on this forum can fathom.

No, there were not other ways to protect Sasuke or keep him sane with a purpose.

You mention running away like a coward would be better? You say he should have taken Sasuke with him? Can Sasuke enter Akatsuki... no. Can Itachi find any other place... no, Tobi's offer is what kept him from being homeless. if Itachi took Sasuke with him, he'd need a way to acquire funds. How would he do that? He can't go to any village, none will trust him with his new status. This is not ideal at all.

He didn't want the Uchiha to lose- he wanted them to negotiate which they rejected the very notion of. As a result, they died so that further people would not. He was not confident that they would win.

We're all entitled to our own opinions (hence why you made this thread and I can discuss mine with you too as can anyone else), but bad writing? It was very well-received both by the fandom in general and critics. Unlike other reveals such as Tobi's unmasking or the Sage fiasco.

Which is part of why he is so unrealistic, like he just happened to think on his own at age 6 and overcome it, nature and nurture ain't got shit on itachi.

*Age 7

Nature and nurture? This has everything to do with it. He spent more time of his life within the village than within clan compounds. He spent more time in a forest training alone instead of his dad teaching him anything bar a katon. He spent more time in the Academy around kids from other clans in the village than members his own age from his own clan. He was taken to a battlefield at age 4 and had to fight at a young age because Fugaku thought this would make him a better tool.

Why would Itachi be close to the Uchiha clan? Especially if he only interacts with his parents, Sasuke, Shisui, and some girl for a few moments when he's not training but no one else unless he'd be obligated to listen to them at a meeting. He spent most of his time in Anbu and before that on a genin team- only Konoha villagers aside from Uchiha included.

I wanna add that I do like the fact that kishi made him a good guy and gave him a reason to kill his clan (and mentioning that obito did half the job, cuz that tbh makes uchihas of that time pretty pathetic if it was just itachi doing it before his prime too). HOWEVER, he could have added a few reasons to why he stood against his clan,

All Kishimoto has been doing these years has been adding reasons.

Manga
>Civil war would definitely start
>Next shinobi war would probably start
>Villagers do not want Uchiha to rule, thus there would be rebellion if the clan won
>Uchiha won't succeed most likely as Anbu/Root are enough to stalemate if the clan is caught in time, all going to be eliminated anyway
>Lol theory of Tobirama's "the clan is genetically unstable"
>Hiruzen willing to negotiation, so he's a fair leader.

Novels/Anime

>Fugaku and Mikoto thought the coup was a dumb idea and would entail much bloodshed as people would retaliated until the end for Hiruzen. They were going for it out of fear since they didn't want their people to think of them as traitors and try to assassinate them.
>Itachi repeatedly told the clan that Hiruzen could give them rights at the clan meetings but they blew it off.
>If the clan members found out Fugaku had MS (which they inevitably would if he became Hokage as he'd have to use it to protect Konoha from enemies as strong as Pein or even Orochimaru), they'd force him to use the Kyuubi to destroy everyone as a statement.

IMO the coup is fairly justified on their part, IF they had some malicious things going on behind the scenes (eg: what they wanna do with the village AFTER.

You provided no justification, so why do you think it's justified?

Explain how a takeover is justified when the other party is willing to begin peace talks. Don't worry, I'll wait. I always thought it could only be justified if they accept a peace talk and they either fail right away or they come to a conclusion but the other party doesn't hold up the bargain. But they didn't even give it a chance.

Killing the elders, not just trying to rebel at minimum casualties),

He attempted to kill Danzo in the novels but fails as he is surrounded by Anbu (some) ready to jump him the moment he slashes the old man's throat. He considered doing it anyway and killing the Anbu, but then realized other Anbu would attack the Uchiha instead along with other shinobi. Thankfully, he did not kill Danzo as that would not only mean the end of the Uchiha but also their name, thus any chance Sasuke has at living anywhere.

or maybe the clan leaders are corrupt.

In both the databooks and novel, the Police Force accounts for over 50% of the clan. In what sense is it logical to kill all the men and think that their wives would be okay with it and all would be fine/dandy with no conflict?

But to kill his own family who didn't even resist, itss just very unrealistic.

It's very realistic given what they were attempting to do. The main reasons Fugaku/Mikoto didn't resist were a) They didn't think the coup had merit in the first place, they were just going with it and b) They knew the clan was gone and if they lived that they would have to fess up. This assisted suicide let them avoid the fate of being publicly executed of imprisoned for life in Konoha.

I said unrealistic, and I agree with you, even other villains in NV like Obito and madara, are to some extent realistic as there are psychos irl who use instrumental aggression to get what they want for whatever reason,

And then they give up when a teen talks to them, amirite?

and if people had immense physical strength like NV or weapons of mass destruction at their command they would kill on a bigger scale I would think.

Nuclear weapons in real life are worse than the majority of NV techs.

As for Itachi, his reasons are just unjustified, that's how I think any logical person would feel.

Only character with a reason for everything he did & alternatives were worse. Thus, any logical person would deem it justified. When keeping in mind the scenario and shinobi setting, of course.

Because if we look at it all from a real-life sense alone, well killing is not morally justified in general, thus we cannot justify any character in NV. But, I doubt that's what you meant as you seem to have justified others in a peculiar sense.

It's not really about getting a prize/reward, although that Would help the case of konoha takes care of him while sending him away even if he was to be blamed, after all he saved the village's time of peace. I know he is supposed to be a big hearted character and the peace would satisfy him, enough that he's okay with being hated by his little brother.

What this thread is saying, that realistically, no one would have ever done that irl, at least not all of it. It's def possible for a person o oppose their family to stand up for their beliefs; but to accept sacrificing all his future, hiding the truth from his brother who he loved to death, and having him plan to kill him, instead of telling him why and taking care of him, he just made both his and his little brothers lives a living hell by doing all that, I don't think anyone would have ever done so.

You will never find a realistic character in NV with that way of thinking. You're ignoring the setting and circumstances in favor of real life alone.

@bold- That would have failed and he had no means or even a safe place to stay so he could take care of Sasuke. In this sense, what he did was realistic as well. I guess some people, like yourself (as you're making it seem that way with these false scenarios or perhaps you just didn't think it through?) would have let your sibling die and moved on. But some people in real life really can't stand the thought of losing a loved one, however selfish or selfless that may seem.

Yeah I said that, you clearly have either been sheltered or don't interact with many types of people. THERE ARE BILLIONS of people who had a horrible childhood growing up, worse than itachi's. He saw people die and grew up in war, so far I personally can match that.

Did you have to fight in a war because your dad made you when you were 4 as well? And did said father also tell you that your main purpose was just to train and that all life holds for you is nothing but killing?

No? Alright then.

Like idk why you're so surprised to see someone comment that, like seriously? How old are you? Some people here act like some naruto characters have had worse trauma than anyone to ever exist, which is false.

Outside of first world countries, many societies are filled with absolute poverty (which isn't existent in Europe and NA), mass murders, civil war, war, etc...

Even in first world countries, many people grow up in dysfunctional families, abuse, drug addiction, rape, and many things. So seeing a few people die as a child is indeed traumatic, however, he still had a supportive family, loving brother, food, education, and safety (for te ninja world at least). Many people don't have that, even as kids.

>Supportive family- his family mainly looked at him as a tool to be proud of aside from Sasuke who didn't understand him but just deified him. Thus, he felt isolated even when with them.
>Loving brother- a brother who would eventually come to complain and get annoyed with his existence as their father would problematically not pay enough attention to him.
>Food- true
>Education- true, but he was also primarily self-taught.
>Safety- going into conflict to fight since age 4 isn't safe for the shinobi world. This is abnormal treatment, even from a shinobi parent. Even from an Uchiha. Just because he was lucky to not die doesn't mean he was safe.

The only thing 100% correct here was food.

You killed people on a battlefield at 7?

*4

Fugaku took him there the day he turned 4. What a fantastic father. How could Itachi not support a fine man like that?

The only remotely redeeming factor for Fugaku and Mikoto as parents to Itachi is their deaths but even this is stretching it as the clan was gone so they didn't want to live at that point deep down anyway.

But he chose that, and I never said he had it easy, just rhat compared to other ppl in NV AND IRL, His life wasn't catastrophic either (until he killed the clan).

*Is a peaceful small child who doesn't even know what reality is yet*

Fugaku: Here's your birthday gift for turning 4, son.
Itachi...
-Dead bodies everywhere-
Fugaku: And since the war is continuing, you'll have to fight too.
Itachi: But why... did this happen?
Fugaku: Because all shinobi live to do is kill. You're a smart kid, I think you'll understand.

Lmao, wth xD

*Decides that he's not going to kill if he can help it*

Fugaku: I know you're 10 and all, but I need you to join Anbu.
Itachi: I...
Fugaku: It's for the sake of the clan, don't you know your place?!
Itachi: Understood.
-Itachi is now an assassin*

*Makes first & only best friend he can talk to at age 5 but said friend loses hope about the coup despite saying he'll never betray him even though the clan members all despise him... said friend commits suicide when Itachi is 11 and says he is giving up*

Shisui: Don't stop me! Not if you're my friend!
Shisui moves to edge of cliff more after giving his eye to Itachi.
Itachi: Shisui!
Itachi looks down at the rushing waters and awakens MS.

*Becomes friends with comrade on genin team when he's 8*

Tobi shows up.
Comrade lunges at Tobi.
Tobi slices comrade up and kamuis away.
Itachi is left with the corpse and awakens 3-tomoe.

*Shisui sells out the clan by giving info to the Konoha echelons whereas Itachi has not (yet)*
Shisui: Yeah, the clan members pretty much hate you since they think you sold them out.
Itachi: I haven't done anything, though I don't really agree with what's going on now.
Shisui: Don't worry, if they attempt to kill you, you're stronger than them.
Shisui is still revered despite selling out his clan at this point but Itachi is being dragged through the mud despite not having done anything yet- he's being blamed for a "crime" he did not commit.

*Tells clan about possibility of negotiation but is called a traitor instead*
Left with choice of either killing them or running away since they no longer trust him to assist in their coup.

^I would hardly call this normal.

You also say he made the choice to kill his clan, but the other was running away and letting them die. This isn't favorable either way.

What KingHashirama said. Forget about Itachi the peace loving child slaughterer.

So, you think he should just let those kids die by another's hands along with more kids? And that this would qualify as peace loving?

What about Hitler 1 and Hitler 2 aka Danzo and Hiruzen, let's talk about those guys.

I never knew that any version of Hitler (your take on "2") was willing to negotiate with the Jews. You learn something new every day.

Agreed. When Itachi became wiser than Kage at age 6 he became unreal.

This was said in terms of him caring about people outside of his clan. That is all. I don't consider it unreal for a child to care for more people than those directly around them, actually it's more common when a person is young than when they're older and have further established their bonds with family while really grasping how valuable they are.

People would struggle and die before they take orders from two Hitlers.

There weren't any Hitlers in the situation. Danzo is closer to that designation, but even he doesn't reach it here. He has done worse involving Kabuto and Nagato, their plights were entirely his fault.

Here the Uchiha had an option to talk. They didn't take it. Are you saying that you would find it more productive to let your entire family die along with others? And that this is what people would rather do, something they would NOT struggle/die for but be okay with? What lunacy.

Are you telling me the genius sage God Itachi couldn't convince his fellow clansmen fodder that their plans were futile?

No, and it is very realistic that a clan which hates the village would not listen to someone they only value as a tool. They wanted Itachi to work like a dog, then accused him of being a spy before he became one, then ignored him when he mentioned peaceful options at their meetings. It didn't work because it was a Catch-22 the author went for.

I'm sorry if you think Naruto's messianic crusades are more applicable to real life.

Regardless, Itachi is one of my faves.

I highly doubt it. In fact, I know he's not given what you've said about this drawing before.

I really don't see how guys who were slaughtered by two people can kill thousands of people when the Leaf village was aware of the Coup.

The Leaf Village wasn't aware. It was just 4 elderly people and some Anbu/Root.

However, they did not know:

a) When the Uchiha will attack as they could be lying to Itachi due to the distrust they had of him for years.
b) What abilities all the Uchiha have.
c) What the attack formation will be.

It's possible for the Uchiha to cause damage as spreading out and attacking is not the same as being surprise attacked at night by a man that is intangible and the Anbu captain who knows of all their abilities. Simply saying "two people" and comparing them to Leaf villagers is not an apt way of putting it.

Agreed. Also, there would be nothing to capitalize on if the anbu attacked the Uchiha by themselves and put the blame on Itachi. I mean they would have caught them off guard too.

Danzo believed the Anbu could wipe out the Uchiha in a surprise attack, but this was not approved and they were going to attack IF the Uchiha initiated things instead. Then, conflict like a civil war would result when others would decide to assist Anbu.

Still, the thing that irks me is their shitty reasoning as to why diplomacy didn't work if they have a leader who's all about the will of fire and all that bullshit.

Hiruzen was a scumbag.

The Will of Fire doesn't always fix problems and this form of nationalism is the cause of many problems in the series. Though, not to the extent of the Uchiha clan's pride.

I don't see how he's a scumbag in regards to the clan not wanting to talk to him. How can he control that? Do you mean he should have forced them to submit in another way? Perhaps do the alternative to killing them which would be lifetime imprisonment?

He can be weak for not reprimanding Orochimaru or not killing him early on due to favoritism. Or letting Danzo handle scenarios which led to Nagato's/Kabuto's plights.

 

[shelke]

^ Chie at it again with her weak Itachi defense force.

pein destroyed the village and left it in ruins, the leaf was pretty vulnerable military wise at that point yet no village sought to attack. the same was true after oro invaded it back then, no village capitilized. going by that it is not necessarily a certainty that so called war against the leaf from others would have ensured if the coup did take place. i just feel its extra talk to try and justify itachis actions but later events show that it might not have been the case.

I have brought this point up countless times, yet the pro-slaughter lobby has nothing to counter it. Both times, the village was left as a pile of rubble. Where was that world scale war? In Orochimaru's infiltration, Sand was also involved. Why didn't the war escalate? Why didn't no one jump in?

This was nothing but justification to slaughter the clan. The pro-Tobirama lobby wanted this all along. There is nothing more to it.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Yes, Chie I like summoning you. ^^

 

[Exaar]

pein destroyed the village and left it in ruins, the leaf was pretty vulnerable military wise at that point yet no village sought to attack. the same was true after oro invaded it back then, no village capitilized. going by that it is not necessarily a certainty that so called war against the leaf from others would have ensured if the coup did take place. i just feel its extra talk to try and justify itachis actions but later events show that it might not have been the case.

Well During the pein invasion, The other villages had more important matters to deal with than starting a war, Which was the akatsuki and them stealing Bijuu.

Not to sure why vilages didn't take advantage of Oro's invasion though but still, It's a possibility, maybe other villages would attack if the uchiha revolted maybe they wouldn't but that's a huge gamble to take.

They can't just sit back and pray they don't attacked.

 

[shelke]

Well During the pein invasion, The other villages had more important matters to deal with than starting a war, Which was the akatsuki and them stealing Bijuu.

Not to sure why vilages didn't take advantage of Oro's invasion though but still, It's a possibility, maybe other villages would attack if the uchiha revolted maybe they wouldn't but that's a huge gamble to take.

They can't just sit back and pray they don't attacked.

Akatsuki never became a threat until Obito didn't declare a war. They were being used by Rock before it to promote cross-border terrorism. Onoki makes it pretty clear at the Kage summit. So no, they were never any village's priority.

The Jins of several villages were taken and no body gave a damn, save for Sand as it was their Kazekage. Deidara mentions it pretty plainly to Naruto. And it's a fact, because had Bee not created noise, no one would have known that what Akatsuki were even up to.

 

[Conspirator.]

I vehemently disagree with the thread. Itachi is by and far away the most realistic character in the entire manga. Why? Because he coughed out blood. How is this realistic for his character? Kishimoto, the other characters in the manga, and the bulk of the fandom rode him so hard that naturally anyone would cough out blood after all that wiener riding. So yes, Itachi is very realistic and is an object lesson to all of us to not be so "perfect" in a way such that everyone around you wants to do an orgy with you.