Itachi is the most unrealistic character in NV

[Koinzell]

Sasuke negs Itachi.

 

[Berkenstiel]

Yeah I said that, you clearly have either been sheltered or don't interact with many types of people. THERE ARE BILLIONS of people who had a horrible childhood growing up, worse than itachi's. He saw people die and grew up in war, so far I personally can match that.

Outside of first world countries, many societies are filled with absolute poverty (which isn't existent in Europe and NA), mass murders, civil war, war, etc...

Even in first world countries, many people grow up in dysfunctional families, abuse, drug addiction, rape, and many things. So seeing a few people die as a child is indeed traumatic, however, he still had a supportive family, loving brother, food, education, and safety (for te ninja world at least). Many people don't have that, even as kids.

You killed people on a battlefield at 7?

 

[-immortal-]

you say unrealistic.
i say extraordinary

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[UchiGOD]

It's not really about getting a prize/reward, although that Would help the case of konoha takes care of him while sending him away even if he was to be blamed, after all he saved the village's time of peace. I know he is supposed to be a big hearted character and the peace would satisfy him, enough that he's okay with being hated by his little brother.

What this thread is saying, that realistically, no one would have ever done that irl, at least not all of it. It's def possible for a person o oppose their family to stand up for their beliefs; but to accept sacrificing all his future, hiding the truth from his brother who he loved to death, and having him plan to kill him, instead of telling him why and taking care of him, he just made both his and his little brothers lives a living hell by doing all that, I don't think anyone would have ever done so.

Well u are right somehow.
He didn't do the best way,and yes no one would do that. But it wasn't him that decided to kill,the situation was. Tobi was going to kill the clan,uchiha wanted to take revenge,konoha wanted to fight. His decision wasn't completely right,but it wasn't wrong either. He was a 13 year old peace loving boy who didn't know who is wrong and who is right. His best friend and sensei died becuz of the clan and that made him mad. He knew that if the clan finds out his dad has MS ,a world war would happen without a doubt. And if they didn't, and as fugaku said,they had just killed the elders,konoha would turn against them and would take revenge for their hokage. Both sides would lose in that case. So he thought that it's better to kill on side only,and take all the blame of his clan by himself,and just end this.
Telling the truth to sasuke isn't a wise move. He would gain hatred against his village and would destroy it(and we saw that) then not even itachi and naruto could convince him.
Itachi couldn't take care of him cuz he was a criminal and would leave the village. He told his bro to hate him,becuz he thought he would get stronger and would become konoha's hero. I don't see anything wrong with that. But things didn't go the way he wanted to.
I'm not saying he was wrong or right,no one can.I'm just explaining the situation he was in and why he made that decision.

 

[Uchiha420]

You killed people on a battlefield at 7?

That was filler, and obv things like that are gonna be added since it's fiction. But my answer still stands, I'm not here to share my story, my point is that there are many people, possibly at least a few people that each of us know that has had more stressful lives than what we've seen from itachi's. (unless people don't go out much on NB),

 

[Angelic.]

Itachi solos

 

[SenseiSama]

Wanking a fictional male character too hard bro, pretty sad.



Which is part of why he is so unrealistic, like he just happened to think on his own at age 6 and overcome it

He didn't overcome the hatred as a kid though, he abandoned it after his death, remember what he told Kisame "you don't know who you truly are until you die". He had the Will of Fire but he still gave in to a hatred to a certain extent, but not to the same extent as Uchiha.

Before dying he wanted to do everything on his own like Madara and Indra, and he wanted to use his brother's hatred to make Sasuke strong enough to bring change in the world similar to how Madara used Obito's. After dying he realized the error in his ways and admitted to Sasuke that the path he chose was wrong.

nature and nurture ain't got shit on itachi.

He witnessed war at a young age and didn't like it, he witnessed his clan's pride and arrogance and didn't like it. He was a genius at observation which is why his nurture played a part in his nature. Child geniuses aren't unrealistic there are plenty that have lived throughout our history.

He never saw the value in having the Uchiha name because he understood that pride was more of a human flaw than a benefit which is why he was never able to experience the same feelings of hatred as other Uchiha, he wanted peace and to him a coup d'etat with the clan would only lead to the opposite and him re-experiencing the war he witnessed as a child.

I wanna add that I do like the fact that kishi made him a good guy and gave him a reason to kill his clan (and mentioning that obito did half the job, cuz that tbh makes uchihas of that time pretty pathetic if it was just itachi doing it before his prime too). HOWEVER, he could have added a few reasons to why he stood against his clan, IMO the coup is fairly justified on their part, IF they had some malicious things going on behind the scenes (eg: what they wanna do with the village AFTER. Killing the elders, not just trying to rebel at minimum casualties), or maybe the clan leaders are corrupt. But to kill his own family who didn't even resist, itss just very unrealistic.

The difference between him and others is that his hatred only fuelled his desire to avoid war and maintain peace, in contrast the Uchiha were known to use hatred to gain power for revenge at the cost of peace.

Their history of pride and war is what led him to the slaughter of his clan, he was more rational and knew that diplomatic talks wouldn't stop some from conspiring against Konoha due to them being unable to overcome feelings of hatred, and killing one leader or a couple of village traitors would only lead more Uchiha to follow Madara's ideology.

He left Sasuke as the sole survivor because as the author mentions he was "pure", he didn't know anything about the history of the clan or the village due to his young age, and Itachi also believed Sasuke would change the Uchiha clan due to him having the stronger eye power.

 

[Kingu]

Clearly OP knows nothing, because 19 yrs ago on my birthday, February 31st, before Kishimoto released the first chapter of Digimon he said that "This is all based on a true story."

 

[Berkenstiel]

That was filler, and obv things like that are gonna be added since it's fiction. But my answer still stands, I'm not here to share my story, my point is that there are many people, possibly at least a few people that each of us know that has had more stressful lives than what we've seen from itachi's. (unless people don't go out much on NB),

Assassination missions from an early age , Having to kill is family and clan isn't that stressful? KK gotcha

 

[Uchiha420]

Assassination missions from an early age , Having to kill is family and clan isn't that stressful? KK gotcha

But he chose that, and I never said he had it easy, just rhat compared to other ppl in NV AND IRL, His life wasn't catastrophic either (until he killed the clan).

 

[Claymantan]

Yeah I said that, you clearly have either been sheltered or don't interact with many types of people. THERE ARE BILLIONS of people who had a horrible childhood growing up, worse than itachi's. He saw people die and grew up in war, so far I personally can match that.

Like idk why you're so surprised to see someone comment that, like seriously? How old are you? Some people here act like some naruto characters have had worse trauma than anyone to ever exist, which is false.

Outside of first world countries, many societies are filled with absolute poverty (which isn't existent in Europe and NA), mass murders, civil war, war, etc...

Even in first world countries, many people grow up in dysfunctional families, abuse, drug addiction, rape, and many things. So seeing a few people die as a child is indeed traumatic, however, he still had a supportive family, loving brother, food, education, and safety (for te ninja world at least). Many people don't have that, even as kids.

Billions...so like, at least two billion...

Okay, I'm sure a third of the world have had to murder their entire family...

You're trolling so hard it's hilarious...

 

[Berkenstiel]

But he chose that, and I never said he had it easy, just rhat compared to other ppl in NV AND IRL, His life wasn't catastrophic either (until he killed the clan).

So what the point of this thread. Itachi life wasnt bad until it was?

 

[KingHashirama]

Itachi is the most protected character in the manga. Boy got more character protection than John cena got from WWE in the last 10 years.

 

[shelke]

I'll give you millions, OP on grounds of people who experienced war and lost families. Billions? Come on!

 

[Uchiha420]

Billions...so like, at least two billion...

Okay, I'm sure a third of the world have had to murder their entire family...

You're trolling so hard it's hilarious...

Trolling? Ur an idiot, a good amount of people in the US are suffering from depression, ptsd, and even psychotic illnesses. And another good amount are addicted to drugs starting as teenagers, and many people in poverty end up in the correctional system.

It could be two billion, but at least over a billion. AND IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE ****ING WAR. I lived in Baghdad, Iraq for the first 9 years of my life. It was very scary, with the constant bombing around u and the threat of leaving the house or even sleeping near Windows, however, I had other events in my life that I find just as emotionally disruptive, less dangerous, but still just as impactful in the long run. I've also met a lot of people who grew up in destructive households, drug infested areas, etc which ended up leading them to getting in trouble at a young age. I don't like to bring up personal matters into this post, but calling me a troll when discussing a very serious subject is insulting, just cuz u don't go out much or don't talk to many people doesn't mean that what I'm saying isn't true.

What about people in South America living in poverty in civil wars? with the economic inequality being outrageous. What about starving people in third world countries?

Add that up and I'm sure 1/5-1/6 of the world population can be put in that category, it's not even that surprising.

So what the point of this thread. Itachi life wasnt bad until it was?

No, that's what u and that other idiot turned it into. The point is that hes very unrealistic.

I'll give you millions, OP on grounds of people who experienced war and lost families. Billions? Come on!

War isn't the only extremely traumatizing thing a person could experience, and from personal experience while we're at it, it's better to go through it when you're five than when you're 20-30.

Also, Iraq and afghanistan's population adds up to about 100+ million from what I remember, so yeah, I'm sure it reaches a billion, and like I said not including just war.

smh @ people missing the point of this thread.

 

[shelke]

Trolling? Ur an idiot, a good amount of people in the US are suffering from depression, ptsd, and even psychotic illnesses. And another good amount are addicted to drugs starting as teenagers, and many people in poverty end up in the correctional system.

It could be two billion, but at least over a billion. AND IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE ****ING WAR. I lived in Baghdad, Iraq for the first 9 years of my life. It was very scary, with the constant bombing around u and the threat of leaving the house or even sleeping near Windows, however, I had other events in my life that I find just as emotionally disruptive, less dangerous, but still just as impactful in the long run. I've also met a lot of people who grew up in destructive households, drug infested areas, etc which ended up leading them to getting in trouble at a young age. I don't like to bring up personal matters into this post, but calling me a troll when discussing a very serious subject is insulting, just cuz u don't go out much or don't talk to many people doesn't mean that what I'm saying isn't true.

What about people in South America living in poverty in civil wars? with the economic inequality being outrageous. What about starving people in third world countries?

Add that up and I'm sure 1/5-1/6 of the world population can be put in that category, it's not even that surprising.


No, that's what u and that other idiot turned it into. The point is that hes very unrealistic.

Really sorry to hear that. You don't need to share this here. I don't think this forum is a place for that.

Really, I am truly sorry

 

[KingHashirama]

Reading all these posts about Itachi's childhood and etc makes me thinkg this: Uchiha Coup should've happened. Tobirama's big **** up before dying was, not leaving a uchiha as part of the higher up, to keep Danzo/Hiruzen in check.


Hashirama - build a village where Kids won't be put into war.

Danzo/Hiruzen - have a kid kill an entire clan, put 13 year olds in the war. Train special anbus made of orphan kids.

Jesus christ. They should make fillers of the Hiruzen/Danzo reign.

 

[Berkenstiel]

No, that's what u and that other idiot turned it into. The point is that hes very unrealistic.

Its a fictional manga no ones life in it is realistic so....

 

[Uchiha420]

Really sorry to hear that. You don't need to share this here. I don't think this forum is a place for that.

Really, I am truly sorry

I agree, but since the guy thought I'm trolling I felt that I needed to prove a point that it doesn't make itachi remotely realistic. Some people can look acknowledge a character they like is flawed. I can acknowledge thatObitos motives needed improvement, but people seem to justify their favs as perfect characters, which is pretty stupid if u ask me.

Its a fictional manga no ones life in it is realistic so....

Fair enough, but wanted to point out that itachi is especially realistic even for fiction

 

[shelke]

I agree, but since the guy thought I'm trolling I felt that I needed to prove a point that it doesn't make itachi remotely realistic. Some people can look acknowledge a character they like is flawed. I can acknowledge thatObitos motives needed improvement, but people seem to justify their favs as perfect characters, which is pretty stupid if u ask me.

Fair enough, but wanted to point out that itachi is especially realistic even for fiction

Fair enough. I simply believe your sentence structure threw us off. It seemed like you were only referring to the war.