Because hes rising as a Yonko. So to claim hes one of the strongest yonko, you'd need evidence as to how hes stronger than that yonko.. and so far there is no such evidence.
Nope,the scar is on his upper cheeks horizontal to the earlobe:
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Kid Shanks had no scar horizontal from his earlobe and nothing above the mouth, and his hair clearly doesn't drape down to his mouth near his scar should be.
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I never said I have proof of that. Which just goes to show you still haven't understood anything I've said. There's no proof either way.
Lmao, are you confused? Did I say that you had proof? I wouldn't of started my second sentence of you assuming if I thought you had proof. I'm clarifying that you're going off a baseless assumption and your argument should end there.
I also never said that Roger came back to fight Whitebeard. Once again, that implies that Roger went looking for a fight with Whitebeard. What I said was that, as Roger continued to sail as Pirate King for a short period of time, it's fully possible that at any point during this time, he could have encountered Whitebeard and fought again. REGARDLESS of if it was on purpose or if it was by chance.
And again, you failed to understand that this "possibility" you keep clinging on to is a BASELESS assumption. You have nothing to proof this. Rogers never sailed as a pirate king either, I already put a scan of rayleigh debunking that theory. And no, he did no go back to fight Whitebeard, there is no chance of WB being anywhere near Raftel to confront Whitebeard again. Once he became pirate king, Rogers gave his last order to disband the group. If that was the order given right after he became pirate king, then their was no fight with Whitebeard at all.
Once again, I never said they fought countless times over the last two years of Roger's piracy. I said that, in their OVERALL careers of piracy, Roger and WB fought countless times, something asserted by Whitebeard himself. What I said was that during the two year period between the Edd War and Roger becoming Pirate King, which would require Roger to have kept sailing and build more strength(seriously, Luffy sailed for less than a year between East Blue and Marineford, look how strong he got, and then look how strong he got during the two year timeskip, Roger undoubtedly grew in power between the Edd War and becoming Pirate King), he probably fought Whitebeard at least once, and probably fought Whitebeard during the short period of time where he sailed as the Pirate King.
Again these are all assumptions. I'm not going to give an objective response to something to something so subjective like this I'm reading.
-Assuming that Rogers went off to get stronger (despite saying he didn't have time left.)
-Assumed that he fought as pirate king (which Rayleigh clearly debunked)
-Comparing luffy's voyage to Rogers
-Assumed they went of to get stronger (luffy remained stationary for two years)
Incorrect. Ray says here that Roger came down with the terminal illness about four years before his execution.[
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] Crocus joined before Roger became Pirate King, and sailed with Roger for about three years.
Nothing I said was incorrected. Rogers disbanded the group once he became pirate king. That's hardcore facts.
Ray then says they disbanded "before long," which indicates a short period of time where Roger sailed as the Pirate King, which is supported in the scan I linked before that said shortly after becoming Pirate King, Roger disbanded the crew. Regardless of how long that was, it shows that it was not an immediate disbandment, and the crew sailed for some period of time where Roger was Pirate King.
The bold part is clearly false. Because Rayleigh said that in the end he disbanded the crew, and this was after he mentioned Rogers becoming pirate king. So Rogers sailing the seas as pirate king is a huge assumption here. Your indications are off by a mile. Take what Rayleigh said literally.
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You have zero proof that the two of them met up alone and didn't have their crew. Considering WB's crew was ready to fight Shanks the second he appeared, it's doubtful that he went ahead on his own. They may have spoken privately, but it's fully possible that their crews were nearby at that period of time.
They were alone in the manga with no crew around. That's not an assumption, that's a fact. They were talking about the will of D, the void country, and whitebeard brought up Teach. No one in Whitebeard's crew have any knowledge of this either which further proves my point. It's common sense.
You're assuming that Whitebeard came to fight Rogers the second they appeared. The fact that they sat down talking about the secrets of the D is just a further reason why what you're saying here doesn't make sense.
Guy with WB avatar is a fool. Mihawk did that same slash casually toward Luffy. He also used it on Vista who swiped it away with ease so please tell me how could this be his strongest attack when Vista can casually swat it? Remember hes the strongest swordsmen so how could another sword belittle his strongest slash?
Guy with WB avatar is a fool. Mihawk did that same slash casually toward Luffy. He also used it on Vista who swiped it away with ease so please tell me how could this be his strongest attack when Vista can casually swat it? Remember hes the strongest swordsmen so how could another sword belittle his strongest slash?
You can clearly see the scar not even reaching close to his earlobe and being on the front of his face...
Kid Shanks had no scar horizontal from his earlobe and nothing above the mouth, and his hair clearly doesn't drape down to his mouth near his scar should be.
MFW his hair is covering his ENTIRE CHEEK and stops AT THE MOUTH. So yeah, idk how you're gonna see anything above the mouth when his hair is covering everything above it.
Lmao, are you confused? Did I say that you had proof? I wouldn't of started my second sentence of you assuming if I thought you had proof. I'm clarifying that you're going off a baseless assumption and your argument should end there.
You're still ignoring what I've been saying: THERE IS NO PROOF THAT SHANKS DID NOT HAVE HIS SCAR AS A CABIN BOY. THERE'S NO PROOF THAT HE DID. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE WHEN HE GOT HIS SCAR. IT'S ALL ASSUMPTION.
Idk how I can make it any clearer than that.
Rogers never sailed as a pirate king either, I already put a scan of rayleigh debunking that theory.
The scan doesn't debunk that at all. One scan says "before long," and another says "shortly after," one being from a member of the crew and the other being from the narrator. Both of them are proof that the splitting of the crew was not immediate. How do you debunk the narrator saying "shortly after" and Ray saying "Belong long?"
And no, he did no go back to fight Whitebeard, there is no chance of WB being anywhere near Raftel to confront Whitebeard again.
Who said WB had to be near Raftel? Do you think Roger got to Raftel and just stayed there until it was time for him to surrender himself? You really think Roger NEVER left Raftel or the area it was in ever again?
Stop saying "Roger didn't go back to fight Whitebeard." No one said Roger went back just so he could fight Whitebeard.
Once he became pirate king, Rogers gave his last order to disband the group. If that was the order given right after he became pirate king, then their was no fight with Whitebeard at all.
Once again, incorrect. The order was not immediately given. If the order was immediately given, Ray would have said so, instead of "before long," and the narrator would not have said "Shortly after," he would have said "Roger then disbanded the crew." The manga contradicts your claim that Roger immediately disbanded the crew. It might have been relatively quickly, but it was not immediately.
Again these are all assumptions. I'm not going to give an objective response to something to something so subjective like this I'm reading.
-Assuming that Rogers went off to get stronger (despite saying he didn't have time left.)
I never said they went off to get stronger. I used Luffy's voyage and his two year training period as testaments that one can build massive strength in a 2-3 year period. It stands to reason that Roger and his crew got at least a little bit stronger while sailing for this same time period, considering that he was about to be defeated by Shiki and then became the top crew in the world two years later.
Nothing I said was incorrected. Rogers disbanded the group shortly after he became pirate king. That's hardcore facts.
The bold part is clearly false. Because Rayleigh said that in the end he disbanded the crew, and this was after he mentioned Rogers becoming pirate king. So Rogers sailing the seas as pirate king is a huge assumption here. Your indications are off by a mile. Take what Rayleigh said literally.
Don't use such a shitty translation like MangaPanda. They called his crew the "Jolly Roger Pirates" in that exact same scan, and you're gonna take it as credible? An actually credible scan says this:
Also, in the end isn't concrete. "In the end" could easily mean the next day, the next week, or the next month. All "in the end" does is say that in the final moments of the crew's existence, that is what happened, not when the end was.
They were alone in the manga with no crew around. That's not an assumption, that's a fact.
You saw them alone. It's assumption that they were.
You're assuming that Whitebeard came to fight Rogers the second they appeared. The fact that they sat down talking about the secrets of the D is just a further reason why what you're saying here doesn't make sense.
I deadass just said that I never claimed their final moment together was a violent one. Their final meeting doesn't have to be violent for their crews to realize that it could end up violent. Shanks and Whitebeard was also going amicably and a sour word escalated it to violence.
You clearly see the word horizontal and not reaching.
MFW his hair is covering his ENTIRE CHEEK and stops AT THE MOUTH. So yeah, idk how you're gonna see anything above the mouth when his hair is covering everything above it.
That's why you look around his mouth. when you open your mouth your skin expands. And since they're is no scar above or around his mouth, he clearly doesn't have a scar.
You're still ignoring what I've been saying: THERE IS NO PROOF THAT SHANKS DID NOT HAVE HIS SCAR AS A CABIN BOY. THERE'S NO PROOF THAT HE DID. NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE WHEN HE GOT HIS SCAR. IT'S ALL ASSUMPTION.
AGAIN!!! THERE IS NO SCAR AS HIM AS A CABIN BOY SO YOU'RE ASSUMING. LOOK AT THE SCAN I SHOWED, NO SCARS AROUND HIS MOUTH OR ABOVE NEXT TO HIS CHEEKS. BASELESS AND USELESS ASSUMPTION GETS YOU NOWHERE.
YOU NEED TO PROOF THAT SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING. BURDEN OF PROOF. THE SUBSTANCE HAS TO BE PROVEN.
The scan doesn't debunk that at all. One scan says "before long," and another says "shortly after," one being from a member of the crew and the other being from the narrator. Both of them are proof that the splitting of the crew was not immediate. How do you debunk the narrator saying "shortly after" and Ray saying "Belong long?"
Who said WB had to be near Raftel? Do you think Roger got to Raftel and just stayed there until it was time for him to surrender himself? You really think Roger NEVER left Raftel or the area it was in ever again?
Back, yes back. Why? Because Rogers passed WB to get to raftel. Going to fight WB for no coherent reason, is considered going back. You have no valid reason on why Rogers would try to fight Whitebeard after he just completely his goal.
Once again, incorrect. The order was not immediately given. If the order was immediately given, Ray would have said so, instead of "before long," and the narrator would not have said "Shortly after," he would have said "Roger then disbanded the crew." The manga contradicts your claim that Roger immediately disbanded the crew. It might have been relatively quickly, but it was not immediately.
You couldn't get any further from making any sense, can you?
Because Rogers also had a timeskip in his journey too so that he can go to the new world and fight a bunch of warlords that we know nothing about too huh?
Don't compare Rogers journey to Luffy's. Because assuming that they're the same is an ASSUMPTION.
I never said they went off to get stronger. I used Luffy's voyage and his two year training period as testaments that one can build massive strength in a 2-3 year period. It stands to reason that Roger and his crew got at least a little bit stronger while sailing for this same time period, considering that he was about to be defeated by Shiki and then became the top crew in the world two years later.
Fanfic is hardly a correction. He disbanded the crew right after he became pirate king. Period.
Don't use such a shitty translation like MangaPanda. They called his crew the "Jolly Roger Pirates" in that exact same scan, and you're gonna take it as credible? An actually credible scan says this:
Because Riker's assumption is better than Mangapanda? Post a better translation with the same chapter and then you can talk.
Also, in the end isn't concrete. "In the end" could easily mean the next day, the next week, or the next month. All "in the end" does is say that in the final moments of the crew's existence, that is what happened, not when the end was.
I deadass just said that I never claimed their final moment together was a violent one. Their final meeting doesn't have to be violent for their crews to realize that it could end up violent. Shanks and Whitebeard was also going amicably and a sour word escalated it to violence.
I m sure Ace had used it more than 3times because Luffy had no idea what happened when Luffy used Conqueror Haki at MF and he had already used Conqueror haki 3times(at Amazon Lily, Impel down and MF).
That panel actually works against you. It says "World's strongest sword attack" which could very well mean the sword attack that is the strongest one in the world.
Anime subs change between who's subbing them so much, you can't use them.
Did anybody stopped that attack?
And its manga fact that Diamond Jozu stopped "strongest Slash" in OPverse.
He also used it on Vista who swiped it away with ease so please tell me how could this be his strongest attack when Vista can casually swat it? Remember hes the strongest swordsmen so how could another sword belittle his strongest slash?
I m sure Ace had used it more than 3times because Luffy had no idea what happened when Luffy used Conqueror Haki at MF and he had already used Conqueror haki 3times(at Amazon Lily, Impel down and MF).
I would like to hear your opinion. Did Jozu stopped World strongest Slash or not?
Did anybody stopped that attack?
And its manga fact that Diamond Jozu stopped "strongest Slash" in OPverse.
can u show me manga scans because i remember there fight ends here
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Kenpachi didn't knew how to use his Zunpakto properly. Yachiru confirms it U_U
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and he doesn't need 2 hands to solo his opponents. One is enough for him :bdpf:
That was the strongest attack Mihawk had pre TS.
and seriously what are u expecting from Mihawk?
He is not going to cut countries/continents in one attack
That was the strongest attack Mihawk had pre TS.
and seriously what are u expecting from Mihawk?
He is not going to cut countries/continents in one attack
