How does Hashirama counter Tsukuyomi?

[Genyūmaru1]

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[Simbv]

Tsukuyomi doesn't though. If Tsukuyomi was regular genjutsu then yeah, Hashirama would break out no diff I acknowledge that.

Tsukuyomi oneshots Hashirama that's all there is to it.


Lol what. Itachi controls the victims destiny within that technique. Hashirama would be screwed. Let me guess you'll say KA doesn't work on Hashirama either? Because Itachi has that in his arsenal as well.

You obviously don't know how Izanami works, sad since your a Itachi boytoy.


I'll take my leave now, no since in arguing any longer.

 

[SenseiSama]

Tsukuyomi doesn't though. If Tsukuyomi was regular genjutsu then yeah, Hashirama would break out no diff I acknowledge that.

Tsukuyomi oneshots Hashirama that's all there is to it.

Nope, genjutsu can be broken if the user can release enough chakra or has strong chakra. Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi when his Sharingan was under the influence of Curse Seal, Hashirama's power is miles above that. If he can break Edo Tensei's control which Itachi wasn't able to then he can break Tsukuyomi.

Lol what. Itachi controls the victims destiny within that technique. Hashirama would be screwed. Let me guess you'll say KA doesn't work on Hashirama either? Because Itachi has that in his arsenal as well.

Every jutsu has a weakness including KA. Shisui's genjutsu works by manipulating your will like Edo Tensei and in the end it's still a genjutsu and therefore has the same weaknesses as one. Edo didn't work on Madara or Hashirama which suggests a person can resist having their mind controlled if their will and chakra is strong enough.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

I love how only the sane members can really grasp that Itachi > Hashirama.

Yeah keep lying to yourself Hashirama dont even need SM to beat Itachi. Madara PS >>>>> Itachi v4 susanoo. Adding Kurama is overkill

SM Hashirama > EMS MAdara >>>> MS Itachi.

 

[Berkenstiel]

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2.hashi isn't a bijuu
3.Hashi is superior to Orochimarum in combat, and lol at data book usage.
4. Speculation, to my knowledge Izanami needs a physical catalyst to even initiate.

2. I never said that im saying naruto in sage mode couldnt sense it until he got the rikudou amp.
3. I clealry said genjutsu not combat.
4. Not speculation manga fact. Any arbitrary moment can be a izanami pointer

 

[Simbv]

2. I never said that im saying naruto in sage mode couldnt sense it until he got the rikudou amp.
3. I clealry said genjutsu not combat.
4. Not speculation manga fact. Any arbitrary moment can be a izanami pointer

1. Not manga supported at all.
2. Genjutsu is a form of combat

 

[Genyūmaru1]

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Read you Hashirama wankers.

"It has nothing to do with wrether you can defeat the genjutsu or not."

What you Hashirama fanboys aren't acknowledging is that you yourself's are even admitting defeat because you said Hashirama can counter it (which he can't). In order to counter Genjutsu you have to be placed in it, and what you have all said is this: "Hashirama needs to simply overpower the Genjutsu with his chakra."

BUT the technique happens instantly, and 1 second = 3 days in the Tsukuyomi Realm. Hashirama would have already died through mental torture if Itachi wishes it.

So in the end you Hashirama fans solo'd yoursef. Thank you, and gg.

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[ComplexCity]

I'm just trying to understand how Itachi deals with Buddha that towered over PS

 

[Genyūmaru1]

I'm just trying to understand how Itachi deals with Buddha that towered over PS

Totsuka Blade.

 

[ComplexCity]

Totsuka Blade.

So Buddah can be sealed in the gourd? Not finna waste my time here

 

[enditallsin]

Wood clone

 

[SoundBar]

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Read you Hashirama wankers.

"It has nothing to do with wrether you can defeat the genjutsu or not."

What you Hashirama fanboys aren't acknowledging is that you yourself's are even admitting defeat because you said Hashirama can counter it (which he can't). In order to counter Genjutsu you have to be placed in it, and what you have all said is this: "Hashirama needs to simply overpower the Genjutsu with his chakra."

BUT the technique happens instantly, and 1 second = 3 days in the Tsukuyomi Realm. Hashirama would have already died through mental torture if Itachi wishes it.

So in the end you Hashirama fans solo'd yoursef. Thank you, and gg.

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I think you are misinterpreting the scans and underestimating Hashirama the great. Even though time in the real world will only be a few seconds when Tsukiyomi activates, the person caught will still be fully cognizant of the time in the Tsukiyomi world. Kakashi felt like he was in there for days, but he was too weak to break free, which means he would say that it's unbreakable. But we know that a surge in chakra can break it, because Sasuke was able to do it by applying his curse mark chakra after Itachi tried it on him. Hashirama the great is much stronger, and would probably blow Itachi's eyes out by forcing his chakra on him (he did break Edo Tensei without a sweat).

Hashirama probably doesn't even have to break out of Tsukiyomi, I think that he could just tank it. I can see it now. 3 days pass, Hashirama is just chilling on the cross waking up from a nap, while Itachi is huffing and puffing, eyes bleeding about to pop out of his eyes and shit. You guys should understand that Hashirama solos your fav smh

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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Very accurate :elmo:

(btw we have a new elmo emote :elmo::elmo::elmo::elmo::elmo

 

[ComplexCity]

I think you are misinterpreting the scans and underestimating Hashirama the great. Even though time in the real world will only be a few seconds when Tsukiyomi activates, the person caught will still be fully cognizant of the time in the Tsukiyomi world. Kakashi felt like he was in there for days, but he was too weak to break free, which means he would say that it's unbreakable. But we know that a surge in chakra can break it, because Sasuke was able to do it by applying his curse mark chakra after Itachi tried it on him. Hashirama the great is much stronger, and would probably blow Itachi's eyes out by forcing his chakra on him (he did break Edo Tensei without a sweat).

Hashirama probably doesn't even have to break out of Tsukiyomi, I think that he could just tank it. I can see it now. 3 days pass, Hashirama is just chilling on the cross waking up from a nap, while Itachi is huffing and puffing, eyes bleeding about to pop out of his eyes and shit. You guys should understand that Hashirama solos your fav smh

That's a good point if Sasuke didn't use his Sharigan to break it, then it was through the CS?

 

[Genyūmaru1]

I think you are misinterpreting the scans and underestimating Hashirama the great. Even though time in the real world will only be a few seconds when Tsukiyomi activates, the person caught will still be fully cognizant of the time in the Tsukiyomi world. Kakashi felt like he was in there for days, but he was too weak to break free, which means he would say that it's unbreakable. But we know that a surge in chakra can break it, because Sasuke was able to do it by applying his curse mark chakra after Itachi tried it on him. Hashirama the great is much stronger, and would probably blow Itachi's eyes out by forcing his chakra on him (he did break Edo Tensei without a sweat).

Hashirama probably doesn't even have to break out of Tsukiyomi, I think that he could just tank it. I can see it now. 3 days pass, Hashirama is just chilling on the cross waking up from a nap, while Itachi is huffing and puffing, eyes bleeding about to pop out of his eyes and shit. You guys should understand that Hashirama solos your fav smh

Stop with the fanfic.

So Buddah can be sealed in the gourd? Not finna waste my time here

The gourd is a dimension bruh.. A near infinite space/time. Buddha can be sealed inside of it. Smh. Go brush up on your manga.

Very accurate :elmo:

(btw we have a new elmo emote :elmo::elmo::elmo::elmo::elmo

Derp please help me convince these fools why Hashirama cannot break Tsukuyomi.

That elmo emote tho :elmo:

 

[ComplexCity]

Stop with the fanfic.

The gourd is a dimension bruh.. A near infinite space/time. Buddha can be sealed inside of it. Smh. Go brush up on your manga.


Derp please help me convince these fools why Hashirama cannot break Tsukuyomi.

That elmo emote tho :elmo:

How did Sasuke break out of Tsukuyomi?

 

[SoundBar]

Stop with the fanfic.

The gourd is a dimension bruh.. A near infinite space/time. Buddha can be sealed inside of it. Smh. Go brush up on your manga.


Derp please help me convince these fools why Hashirama cannot break Tsukuyomi.

That elmo emote tho :elmo:

Not fanfic, FACT. Hashirama is too strong to be caught and harmed by something like Tsukiyomi, you should really take Itachi off of that pedestal, Hashirama is the rightful claim to it.

I stick firm to my evidence based proof of Hashi being able to break Tsukiyomi just for the sake of the debate (counter that Sasuke didn't break it with a surge of chakra, because he used his curse seal chakra to do so), but I also believe that he can just tank it, he does have the feats to make such a claim, he's Hashi the great.

 

[SoundBar]

That's a good point if Sasuke didn't use his Sharigan to break it, then it was through the CS?

Yes, it is evidently clear that Sasuke used his Cursed Seal mark to break Tsukiyomi, anyone who claims differently are in denial, and a debate with them would be futile and pointless, therefore the continuation of taking this as a joke is in full effect.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yes, it is evidently clear that Sasuke used his Cursed Seal mark to break Tsukiyomi, anyone who claims differently are in denial, and a debate with them would be futile and pointless, therefore the continuation of taking this as a joke is in full effect.

I think He used the curse mark to power up the sharingan, to break it. Since a regular sharingan wouldn't be strong enough to counter the MS. I would say it was the combo of CM + his sharingan. The CM boosted his sharingan, hence allowing him to break it. Because he was still in the genjutsu, when he released the curse mark, so it can't just be the CM that allowed him to break the Tsukuyomi.

(though, I originally only credited it to his sharingan, and not the CM.)

EDIT: actually nvm, on the other hand, when he gets out of the genjutsu, the CM is not visible. So the CM being released was simply in the genjutsu.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Run away with his eyes close