Tobi has made everyone believe he is Madara, including Itachi, Kakashi, the Kages and others. Maybe he is doing this to throw everyone off, or maybe he has a plan involving Madara (which explains why Tobi was shocked looking at Kabuto's coffin, i think the coffin had Madara's body in it). Why?
Because after reading Chapter 501, we can conclusively say that Tobi (the man in the mask) is not Madara. He has achieved the same level of skill as Madara with EMS, but its not Madara. Let me explain
We know from Sasuke vs. Itachi fight that the power of the MS is to control the Kyuubi:
When Itachi began to tell Sasuke that awakening the MS leads to blindness, sasuke responded by saying this:
So we know that although MS leads to blindness, it also allows one to control the fox. But the condition is that the Fox must be loose. If the Fox is in a Jinchukriki, MS cannot control the Fox. This is why TOBI told Kushina that he waited so long for Naruto's birth. Simply put, he needed the seal to be undone if he was to control the Kyuubi.
But here is the thing: We know what Madara's MS and EMS looks like. We have seen it several times:
Not only this, but we also know what Madara's EMS looked like while he was controlling the Kyuubi during the Hashirama fight:
It clearly looks like the same EMS Madara had always had. So, we can say for sure that Madara's EMS did not look any different when he was specifically controlling the Kyuubi.
But what do we see in 501?
The masked man who controlled the Kyuubi with his MS once Kushina could not hold it in anymore looks completely different!!!! Here we see an image of the Kyuubi's eyes reflecting the change in Madara's eyes.. (we all know that when sharingan users control bijuu or summons, whatever the user's sharingan looks like becomes reflected on the beasts eye) (we saw this when Sasuke controlled Manda)
That sharingan is NOT Madara's sharingan. It is a completely different design
The middle pupil grows untill the tomoes are pushed out to the edge. This is the masked man going from sharingan to MS. Again, Tobis Sharingan looks nothing like Madara's Sharingan
Therefore Tobi is NOT madara. I dont know who Tobi is but its not madara. The proof is in the pudding. People should just put this issue to rest already.
Because after reading Chapter 501, we can conclusively say that Tobi (the man in the mask) is not Madara. He has achieved the same level of skill as Madara with EMS, but its not Madara. Let me explain
We know from Sasuke vs. Itachi fight that the power of the MS is to control the Kyuubi:
When Itachi began to tell Sasuke that awakening the MS leads to blindness, sasuke responded by saying this:
You must be registered for see images
So we know that although MS leads to blindness, it also allows one to control the fox. But the condition is that the Fox must be loose. If the Fox is in a Jinchukriki, MS cannot control the Fox. This is why TOBI told Kushina that he waited so long for Naruto's birth. Simply put, he needed the seal to be undone if he was to control the Kyuubi.
You must be registered for see images
But here is the thing: We know what Madara's MS and EMS looks like. We have seen it several times:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Not only this, but we also know what Madara's EMS looked like while he was controlling the Kyuubi during the Hashirama fight:
You must be registered for see images
It clearly looks like the same EMS Madara had always had. So, we can say for sure that Madara's EMS did not look any different when he was specifically controlling the Kyuubi.
But what do we see in 501?
The masked man who controlled the Kyuubi with his MS once Kushina could not hold it in anymore looks completely different!!!! Here we see an image of the Kyuubi's eyes reflecting the change in Madara's eyes.. (we all know that when sharingan users control bijuu or summons, whatever the user's sharingan looks like becomes reflected on the beasts eye) (we saw this when Sasuke controlled Manda)
You must be registered for see images
That sharingan is NOT Madara's sharingan. It is a completely different design
The middle pupil grows untill the tomoes are pushed out to the edge. This is the masked man going from sharingan to MS. Again, Tobis Sharingan looks nothing like Madara's Sharingan
Therefore Tobi is NOT madara. I dont know who Tobi is but its not madara. The proof is in the pudding. People should just put this issue to rest already.
Last edited: