⚡️Batman V Superman - A Critical Review⚡️ [Spoilers]

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

A Marvel fanboy..
nothing new here.

 

[Marin]

It wont be meaningful. You have defended this movie with every bone in your body I was just awaiting your response and knew you would attempt to debunk everything I had stated. I am Ben Affleck's Batman in this situation b.



You are completely ignoring everything I said. I understand that they are dividing this up. What I said was that is done in a very messy fashion, it is driven by Lex's meaningless motives and that it is showing off Batman as being a moron/dumbass in this situation. Batman is the world's greatest detective yet he lets all of this anger with no thought bring him to face Superman. Yea, nice job using Superman as a stepping stone for Batman WB.


You just debunked your entire it's "not a distraction" theory by stating that they are ambiguous. And also stating that the JL stuff were teasers. They were placed in at a moment where they could have easily been cut and used that time for the BvS movie itself. Ya know. The BACKBONE. They are rushing this stuff out the gate and c'mon man, even you have to notice it at this point.



Yes Lex and Joker are manics, but manics with the same personality and ideals??? C'mon man don't try to cover up his anxious and eratic behavior by saying that the comic Lex is the same way. He is the same way Joker is in this movie. A completely unpredictable, chaotic, reckless, psychotic murderer. He has no motives.



Ledger was a perfect Joker what the... *sigh* Okay man I don't know where you were going with this one but okay. Tell me what I missed b.



We aren't shown that father abuse so we know nothing about that therefore that's debunked. His reasons for hating Superman have no motive and here you are to say it yourself. He is just manic and doing shit just to do it. We are shown he is manic in the movie you are correct on that tho.



Gonna need more than that to show your point b.



"This sense of betrayal, combined with Clark's closeness to Lionel Luthor, the father Lex never really had, and the overwhelming reality that Lana always loved Clark and not him, caused Lex to plunge into a deep hatred and jealousness that pushed him over the edge. Whatever good was left inside of Lex Luthor was destroyed by that sense of betrayal, and he ultimately decided that Clark must be his mortal enemy. If you recall, nothing good ever came out of being an enemy of the Luthor family, so Lex's obscession with Clark and the secret that was so deviously kept from him all those years turned into a determination to destroy Clark and everything he stands for."

The true reason. Now get out of my face with this Lex stuff bro tired of hearing it.



Ok he is egotistic... ok he is complex... we don't see him be tortured. His ego and his complexity are driven by his manic behavior. He has no motives he just wants to prove he is higher than him? Ok Joker LOL



Bro you still not addressing the plot holes in this thing. He just throws Zods body in the water and poof we got Doomsday and now you even made it worse mentioning he had Zods Personality. That's not helping your case man LOL I payed attention to the movie you are the one here trying to avoid the obvious plot holes and attempting to discuss things I didn't mention in the review to cover up that fact.



He went on the ship and created Doomsday because he is a scientist... he calls Superman a monster and hates things higher than him yet he creates something he can't control, that is higher than him, that is a monster that will kill a bunch of innocent people. Also you are still ignoring the fact he even got access to all of that knowledge. He walked into the damn ship with ripped off finger prints, the AI ignored the fact that he was doing this and let him do whatever the hell he wanted. The hell outta here with this garbage LMFAO



Trust in humanity? Good grief you got me sounding like Charlie Brown at the moment but Good Grief dude. You will use anything you can to defend this wont you? *sigh* Let me tell you why this is not what Superman would do. He destroyed a damn spy drone in Man of Steel. He doesn't trust humanity that much b, or he would have let that drone follow his ass anywhere. It amazes me how much you want to defend this though. Also... how the hell can you be unaware of something that is in a HUMONGOUS WHITE STORAGE BUILDING..... I'm done....



When the Kryptonite went away and Batman was attempting to punch his face and failed. Could have grabbed him and explained everything. Hell probably even before that LOL



You are comparing... Peter and Bens relationship... to Batman and... Okay bro just read what I'm about to say. Superman could have grabbed him. And told him. Martha. That's it. It would have been over. Plot Hole man. I guess you could say this superman is more anger driven but even then that's me trying to make up an excuse for it. At the end of the day they are treating Superman as a plot device man.



So you are telling me Superman wanted to fight Batman? He didn't want to try to convince him that Lex was using him? I mean if he did... then he would have held him down and told him. Or you know. He can be used as a plot device.



LMFAOOO you are even going to defend this short ass fight. I'm guilty??? How am I guilty I didn't write this shit XD You didn't even attempt anything here all you are saying is that enyone who thought it was too short are children and that we need to let WB and DC pump us in the ass and accept what we get because Batman V Superman. Okay you right.



It's driven by a bunch of motiveless actions if you ask me, and ended in such a way too. And the battle was only 11 minutes. Damn man what you want to see a full length film of Superheros in court talking all damn day? Good grief.



They completely used him you are ignoring it tho. Man of Steel was the stepping stone and they kill him off so they can focus on other things. If you choose to stay blinded to the facts so be it man whatever helps you sleep at night and makes you happy.



Forces you to read between the line??? (This is a book?) Complex? You mean overstuffed right? Well hidden? Nah I believe it's all thrown at you at once. And that black and white shot? You mean the 10 sec part we already seen in the trailers? Nah I was expecting more of a conversation between the two. I was once again. Disappointed.



You listed only one flaw the entire time you were trying to convince me I was wrong so don't come to me with that "without its flaws" BS you are clearly riding the scrotum of this movies weak and tender backbone that you assume you are right about everything you speak on about it. Get over yaself fam it's a weak film and is as overstuffed and mainstream as The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is. If it wasn't mainstream they wouldn't be rushing this shit out the gate with the quickness

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Bro... my review is longer than yours. LOL (Lack of critical thought thooooo HAHA) Whereas you gave absolute praise to the film and did nothing but attempt to seem like you're being as critical as possible when really the entire time you are being the fanboy and when really YOU are being the bias one in this situation. We all know this movie isn't as great as you and all these fans are saying it is yet it's you people trying to force us to accept your damn opinions. Trying to come into every thread and defend this average ass movie until WB signs you on as a promoter. To be honest I could care less about your opinion and I don't want to hear your thoughts on any movie ever again. Though I am glad you enjoyed it and can't wait to see what DC is gonna bring us with Suicide Squad.



Before you attempt to talk about my reputation. How about you go and earn some.

While I am almost sad to see someone focus more on insulting me then refuting my points I will none the less bring out my reply when I get to my PC.

Expect a response tommorow.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

While I am almost sad to see someone focus more on insulting me then refuting my points I will none the less bring out my reply when I get to my PC.

Expect a response tommorow.

Did I really now??? LOL so instead of giving you a complete answer on everything I insulted you?? Bro all I called you were a fanboy so stop getting all teary eyed.

Damn it's going to take you that long to come back at me? Smh sad indeed.

 

[Adam Driver]

I disagree with the review I actually enjoyed the movie it was a 10 for me lol.
Though that's probably my bias considering I'm a huge Batman and Ben Affleck fan.
But I did genuinely enjoy watching it without problems.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

I disagree with the review I actually enjoyed the movie it was a 10 for me lol.
Though that's probably my bias considering I'm a huge Batman and Ben Affleck fan.
But I did genuinely enjoy watching it without problems.

A ten damn lol glad you enjoyed it tho bae <3 Most likely gonna pick up the 3D Blu Ray release.

 

[-Punk-]

I loved it, best movie right now

 

[Goetia]

Just to address something you said in the review, WB is considering releasing the R-Rated cut in theaters, which is the whole movie without anything removed. It'll explain some of the things that people called out as plotholes, and add a few missing pieces to the story.

My opinion though? Saw it on the opening weekend, had a blast. I think that both Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck did great jobs on their respective roles, and Gal Gadot shows promise to be a great first Wonder Woman for the silver screen. Jesse Eisenberg was...Jesse. The only things I can say that are negative about the movie are the scenes that were cut, the somewhat inconsistent pacing and amount of subplots they tried to interject. Just a lot of stuff going on. I really liked the Justice League cameos, especially a certain speedster's.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Just to address something you said in the review, WB is considering releasing the R-Rated cut in theaters, which is the whole movie without anything removed. It'll explain some of the things that people called out as plotholes, and add a few missing pieces to the story.

My opinion though? Saw it on the opening weekend, had a blast. I think that both Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck did great jobs on their respective roles, and Gal Gadot shows promise to be a great first Wonder Woman for the silver screen. Jesse Eisenberg was...Jesse. The only things I can say that are negative about the movie are the scenes that were cut, the somewhat inconsistent pacing and amount of subplots they tried to interject. Just a lot of stuff going on. I really liked the Justice League cameos, especially a certain speedster's.

Doubt that will help anything as the damage has already been done in my eyes but will most likely pic up that R Rated copy if it comes in 3D.

Awesome glad you enjoyed it! Also think Ben did great and hope he doesn't believe he's to blame for the backlash. Gal Gadot has a lot to prove as there are still disbelievers out there that think she needs to hang up her lasso xd Too much was going on and it suffered IMO it ruined the film. Tbh it would have been a much better film without Lex's and Doombay's precence. They have done the death of superman and there is no going back from that. Enjoyed Cyborgs more than the others. I rolled my eyes at flashes and Aquaman's lingered on for too long and then he just flies off when they could have done something much more better with the camera angles but hey lol. Don't like the casting of the two is probably why I'm not digging them. Cyborg on the other hand is spot on can't wait for him.

 

[Marin]

It wont be meaningful.

"Well having written a review myself idk how meaningful my comment will be"

Having written a review myself, I have already made my stance on the movie clear, so I question the point of making a post that would repeat its points. In order to give the comment a meaning I chose to simply focus on things that I haven't written (atleast not with major focus) in my review, thus giving this post different content.

Please don't try to use my words against me when you're oblivious to the context in which I present them.

You have defended this movie with every bone in your body I was just awaiting your response and knew you would attempt to debunk everything I had stated. I am Ben Affleck's Batman in this situation b.

Me defending the movie on previous occasions does nothing to render my comment meaningless in the event that it says something that hasn't been stated before. I could defend the movie for ages and my comments would be no less meaningul than they were if I were to defend it for a shorter amount of time. Good arguments don't get worse as you repeat them and bad arguments don't get good as you repeat them either. Thus you saying that my post loses its meaning because I have defended the movie on previous occasions makes no sense.

Speaking of defense, defended it from what? Unjust criticism, bashing and false accusations? Sure. I do that for everything. Movie, book, organization, person. Besides, you constantly make fun of my defense of the film (read "providing counter-arguments for what other people lay out") as if it's something to be ashamed of. You're on a forum. A place where people discuss things. If you have a problem with people discussing things than log off and never come back as you have little to do here. (If you wanna be constructive that is.)

You are completely ignoring everything I said. I understand that they are dividing this up. What I said was that is done in a very messy fashion, it is driven by Lex's meaningless motives and that it is showing off Batman as being a moron/dumbass in this situation. Batman is the world's greatest detective yet he lets all of this anger with no thought bring him to face Superman. Yea, nice job using Superman as a stepping stone for Batman WB.

Ignoring what exactly? Read the paragraph again. I simply laid out the stuff the happens in the film. I didn't claim you don't know that.

You just debunked your entire it's "not a distraction" theory by stating that they are ambiguous. And also stating that the JL stuff were teasers. They were placed in at a moment where they could have easily been cut and used that time for the BvS movie itself. Ya know. The BACKBONE. They are rushing this stuff out the gate and c'mon man, even you have to notice it at this point.

Just because a scene is unclear ie ambiguous doesn't mean the scene is a distraction. Where did you get that idea. Those scenes don't derail the plot somewhere where it shouldn't be, they're just extras positioned in the time when nothing else was happening in "the real world". They would be distractions had the story abandoned its original concept and focused on them instead.

Also, how is this a sign of a rushed movie? 15 minutes max bonus scenes that serve to establish future events and give us hints to what will happen doesn't have anything to do with the movie (2 hour long) being rushed. If anything, the movie has been delayed for so long that it's everythign but rushed. Plans for a movie begun after Superman Returns. That's a lot of time.

Yes Lex and Joker are manics, but manics with the same personality and ideals??? C'mon man don't try to cover up his anxious and eratic behavior by saying that the comic Lex is the same way. He is the same way Joker is in this movie. A completely unpredictable, chaotic, reckless, psychotic murderer. He has no motives.

You clearly have no clue who Joker is. Their personalities are completely different and ideals I won't even touch upon. I don't see Lex lunning around laughing madly, cracking jokes and going on a killer spree. You're basing your argument on the fact that they're both crazy. With that logic...

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Plenty of mad murderous, chaotic maniacs in fiction. I guess they all must be Joker. Right? Right?

Also, Lex isn't even a murderer in this movie. Well, atleast not from the start. He only becomes a murderer after he ticks off the bomb in the court room. Sure, he was a criminal mastermind before, but we have nothing to conclude that he was a murderer. In contrast, Joker is a psychotic murderer clown ever since his introduction.

Lex is also a business men who got knocked over the edge only after the revalation of Superman's existence. For all we know, Joker was always bat shit crazy.

Speaking of motives, even if we were to say Lex has none, the undeniable fact is that Joker has them! Plenty at that point. Every time he appears he has a strict clear thing he wants to accomplish. I mean, have you even read the comics? Killing Joke, one of all- time classics and also crucial in understanding the character of the Joker, depicts him trying to prove to Batman (and to himself) that all it would take to become like Joker is one bad day. Hence, everyone, including Batman, are no different from him as they are all just one bad day away. A clear set goal.

Forget the classics tho, just look at the New 52. Death of the Family arc. He comes back after year of absence and wants to rid Batman of his allies because he deems him weaker because of them and thus not fun any more. A clear set goal.

Endgame. He comes back, realising that Batman isn't who he though he was, and aims to end him once and for all, making a fitting conclusion (endgame) to the tale of their "friendship". A clear set goal.

Joker knows what he is doing. He has a goal he wants to achieve and he goes to all lengths to do it. He has a motive.

Lex has a motive too tho, as I said before. He hates Superman because his existence invokes the feeling of powerlesness and insecurity. It is this feeling that threw him over the edge of insanity. Not the other way around. But more on that further in the post.

Ledger was a perfect Joker what the... *sigh* Okay man I don't know where you were going with this one but okay. Tell me what I missed b.

And you prove my point. How was he a perfect Joker? Surely not based faithfullness to the source material. His interpretation of the Joker was a drastic departure from the classic version. He barely laughed in the film. If we're to judge by the criteria of faithfullnes to the source material (the one your post implies) then the only good Joker was Jack Nickelson's version. Ledger was trash.

A ridiculous statement really. So if we were willing to accept Ledger's interpretation as a legit one, we have no good reason to object to Eisenberg's interpretation of Lex Luthor. Certainly not on the field of source material atleast.

We aren't shown that father abuse so we know nothing about that therefore that's debunked. His reasons for hating Superman have no motive and here you are to say it yourself. He is just manic and doing shit just to do it. We are shown he is manic in the movie you are correct on that tho.

Right here you show that you didn't pay attention at all. Lex said it himself on the roof scene when he was talking to Superman.

"No man in the sky came to intervene when I was a boy, to deliver me from daddy's fists and abominations - ummhm *murmurs painfully*"

He gave us a clear hint of his tragic past in which he was abused by his father. You're denying obvious facts.

Gonna need more than that to show your point b.

You just cut out a part of a logical structure and acted like it's an independant argument. It belongs to the first paragraph. Are you that oblivious to the context of my posts? It's an example of how obsessed Luthor is with Superman's superiority.

It's a sentence from their conversation on the roof when Lex was invoking several philosophical issues such as the problem of absolute power, the problem of evil in the world and... the problem of God above all else. Superman above everything.

"You above everything else!"

That's the only sentence in which Lex increased his tone, noting that it causes severe frustration. Throughout the film he aims to reveal Superman as a "false god".

"It's time they see the fraud you are"
"What you're willing to do when it counts"
"You cannot win! I cannot let you win!"

His entire portrayal screams of superiority complex triggered by Superman's existence. This is his reason for hating Superman in the movie, hence doing what he does. His fragile psyche cannot take the fact that such a "God" exists, so he'll do anything to destroy this figure. That's what I meant when I said he's a tortured character.

"This sense of betrayal, combined with Clark's closeness to Lionel Luthor, the father Lex never really had, and the overwhelming reality that Lana always loved Clark and not him, caused Lex to plunge into a deep hatred and jealousness that pushed him over the edge. Whatever good was left inside of Lex Luthor was destroyed by that sense of betrayal, and he ultimately decided that Clark must be his mortal enemy. If you recall, nothing good ever came out of being an enemy of the Luthor family, so Lex's obscession with Clark and the secret that was so deviously kept from him all those years turned into a determination to destroy Clark and everything he stands for."

The true reason. Now get out of my face with this Lex stuff bro tired of hearing it.

True reason for what? His comic self despise of Clark? Sure, one of the reasons, but definitelly not the only one. Strictly speaking of Clark Kent, tho, Luthor, on numerious occasions, showed his despise for Clark, but not because of jelausy, but because of utter disgust for what he considers Clark to be, a pathetic excuse for a human - a complete opposite of what he considers himself to be (humanity's role model).

Heck, on one occasion, he found out Superman's identity was Clark Kent, but he refused to acknowledge the fact that such a pathetic looking person could be the one man that puts him to shame. But anyway, that's not the point, as we're talking about the movie Lex, not the comic book one.

@bold: Say that to yourself because a major part of your criticism towards the movie was centered around Lex.

Ok he is egotistic... ok he is complex... we don't see him be tortured. His ego and his complexity are driven by his manic behavior. He has no motives he just wants to prove he is higher than him? Ok Joker LOL

Reffer to above for the tortured part. Reffer to the above for manic behaviour as well, because, as I said, his insanity is the product of his superiority complex. Not the other way around.

@bold: You contradict yourself. The very fact that he wants to prove he is higher than Superman is a motive.

It has nothing to do with the Joker, tho, as his goals are way different. Not once did he try to prove he was better than Batman. (Not in the same sense atleast) If nothing else, he wanted to befriend Batman, which is exactly what he considers himself to be - Batman's friend.

Bro you still not addressing the plot holes in this thing. He just throws Zods body in the water and poof we got Doomsday and now you even made it worse mentioning he had Zods Personality. That's not helping your case man LOL I payed attention to the movie you are the one here trying to avoid the obvious plot holes and attempting to discuss things I didn't mention in the review to cover up that fact.

That's not a plot hole. He used advanced tecnology to transform Zod's body into an extinct Kryptonian creature. It's not "poof doomsday" as the body was subjected to various influences and metamorphosis. Have you seen how powerful Kryptonian metamorphosis is? They were going to transform a freaking planet in MoS! Mutating a biological organism doesn't seem like a big deal at all. Besides, this is sci-fi. There's no point in applying realism here.

What exactly is a plot hole here? Where are the inconsistencies? Where are the illogical occurances? A legit plot point in which I really have no clue what you're complaining about.

He went on the ship and created Doomsday because he is a scientist... he calls Superman a monster and hates things higher than him yet he creates something he can't control, that is higher than him, that is a monster that will kill a bunch of innocent people. Also you are still ignoring the fact he even got access to all of that knowledge. He walked into the damn ship with ripped off finger prints, the AI ignored the fact that he was doing this and let him do whatever the hell he wanted. The hell outta here with this garbage LMFAO

Still no plot holes. He created Doomsday because he wanted a back-up plan in case Batman doesn't kill Superman. He studied the ship because he's a scientist. He wanted to find clues on how to make a "silver bullet". Something he mentioned multiple times.

I don't remember him calling Superman a monster tho. Him making a monster was a sign of his total descent into madness, which was triggered by the knowledge he aquired through the universal library. He doesn't care about innocents, he doesn't care about death. He only cares about killing Superman. Achieving his goal, no matter what means - another aspect of his comic book self.

And I'm not ignoring anything - you are. He got access to the library by using Zod's fingers to board the ship and turn the security off. Zod is the highest ranking general of the Kryptonian rebellion. His word means law. And now, Lex is his word.

The AI let him do what he wants because of that. What exactly do you have trouble understanding here?

Trust in humanity? Good grief you got me sounding like Charlie Brown at the moment but Good Grief dude. You will use anything you can to defend this wont you? *sigh* Let me tell you why this is not what Superman would do. He destroyed a damn spy drone in Man of Steel. He doesn't trust humanity that much b, or he would have let that drone follow his ass anywhere. It amazes me how much you want to defend this though. Also... how the hell can you be unaware of something that is in a HUMONGOUS WHITE STORAGE BUILDING..... I'm done....

The reason he destroyed the drone wasn't because he didn't trust humanity as a whole, it's because he didn't trust certain people who may use that knowledge to threaten the ones he loves. He didn't want to put his mother in danger, which is exactly what happened when Lex found out about his identity.

You forgot to mention the fact that in the same scene, he actually said "Guess I'll just have to trust you." - Trust.
The only thing he wants is that his helping is on his own terms. Mutual trust doesn't go without mutual respect. Giving him his privacy was a sign of respect.

When the Kryptonite went away and Batman was attempting to punch his face and failed. Could have grabbed him and explained everything. Hell probably even before that LOL



You are comparing... Peter and Bens relationship... to Batman and... Okay bro just read what I'm about to say. Superman could have grabbed him. And told him. Martha. That's it. It would have been over. Plot Hole man. I guess you could say this superman is more anger driven but even then that's me trying to make up an excuse for it. At the end of the day they are treating Superman as a plot device man.

No. Completely missed the point again. I explained why every movie is riding on the character's choices and actions. You choosing to look at Peter and Ben (which wasn't even the point) and ignoring other examples speaks loud and clear of your ignorance.

Just because a character X chose option A over an option B, even tho option B seemed like a better choice, doesn't make it a plot hole. Seeing how you love the term so much, might as well teach you what it means:

"In fiction, a plot hole, plothole or plot error is a logical inconsistency within a story."

If we had character X who was said to not be able to fly, and then at the end of the movie he sudenly started flying, that would've been an inconsistency and thus a plot hole.

So you are telling me Superman wanted to fight Batman? He didn't want to try to convince him that Lex was using him? I mean if he did... then he would have held him down and told him. Or you know. He can be used as a plot device.

Reffer to above. And why do you think a plot device is a bad thing. As I said before, plot is driven by character's actions. Every action the characters take forms the plot. If Naruto killed himself during his childhood depression, we wouldn't have Naruto. If Ichigo got killed by Hollow in Ep1 we wouldn't have Bleach.

There are good and bad plot devices, ie ways to move the plot forward. Superman not kicking Batman down right away (assuming that was a viable option considering his state of mind, and all the tricks Batman has) is neither a plot hole nor a bad plot device. Just choosing option A over option B.

LMFAOOO you are even going to defend this short ass fight. I'm guilty??? How am I guilty I didn't write this shit XD You didn't even attempt anything here all you are saying is that enyone who thought it was too short are children and that we need to let WB and DC pump us in the ass and accept what we get because Batman V Superman. Okay you right.

Again took my words out of context. Good job at using fallacies to back your point up. I said that those who hold a childish view (only conflicts possible are huge brawls) are childish. I said so in a phrase you obviously didn't understand. If you're guilty of holding such a close minded and immature view, than you are guilty of being close minded and immature.

Got it now?

Sepaking of short fight, the fight was fairly long in my opinion. Had they fought more it would've been inconsistent, atleast with the context in which the fight occures.

It's driven by a bunch of motiveless actions if you ask me, and ended in such a way too. And the battle was only 11 minutes. Damn man what you want to see a full length film of Superheros in court talking all damn day? Good grief.

All of them have clear straight motives. It started psychologically and it ended in such a way. This was a clash of ideals. Not fists. So yes, it is a VS movie.

And if you ask me, it would've been a interesting concept (a political super hero drama) depending on how its pulled off. I'd definitely watch it.

They completely used him you are ignoring it tho. Man of Steel was the stepping stone and they kill him off so they can focus on other things. If you choose to stay blinded to the facts so be it man whatever helps you sleep at night and makes you happy.

Not ignoring anything. I said it myself. They didn't need to kill him. One wrong move with the character doesn't overshadow a plethora of good moves they made. That's the point.

This movie helped establish Superman as more human than a god, in contrast to MoS. It did its job well for the most part.

Forces you to read between the line??? (This is a book?) Complex? You mean overstuffed right?

Are you... are you saying that a super-hero movie can't force you to read between the lines? Are you denying the obvious philosophical tone of the film? Well, I can't argue anything if you're going to deny that which is clearly evident.

Nope, I mean complex. It's not overstuffed at all to me because as I said, it had only 15 mins of off-topic material while the rest was the main story. It's complex because it touches upon philosophical matters, moral struggles, existential crisis and doesn't say anything to you directly. You gotta watch and listen carefully. Take every shot in and analyze it. To me, that's what makes a movie good.

Well hidden? Nah I believe it's all thrown at you at once. And that black and white shot? You mean the 10 sec part we already seen in the trailers? Nah I was expecting more of a conversation between the two. I was once again. Disappointed.

You don't seem to know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about symbolism deeply rooted into the film. So many shots were well hidden and after realising it, I was totally amazed! What I'm talking about here specifically is the picture in the art gallery. The one behind Clark in the shot when he and Bruce were talking. The black and white one with many figures.

It represents many things. Dystopia, abuse of power, rebellion, helplessness, inferiority, absolutism - all themes present throughout the movie. It is symbolic of how Bruce sees Clark and how he affects the world, as well as a hint to the nightmare sequences.

If a blurred image that lasts for 10 secs in the background isn't hidden to you, then you don't know the meaning of the word.

You listed only one flaw the entire time you were trying to convince me I was wrong so don't come to me with that "without its flaws" BS you are clearly riding the scrotum of this movies weak and tender backbone that you assume you are right about everything you speak on about it. Get over yaself fam it's a weak film and is as overstuffed and mainstream as The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is. If it wasn't mainstream they wouldn't be rushing this shit out the gate with the quickness

I don't know why you'd feel the need to get my review involved into this. If you have a problem with it say it in the right place.

Also, you're assuming things about me and throwing baseless accusations left and right. It's sad that you can't leave personal attacks out of this.

Bro... my review is longer than yours. LOL (Lack of critical thought thooooo HAHA) Whereas you gave absolute praise to the film and did nothing but attempt to seem like you're being as critical as possible when really the entire time you are being the fanboy and when really YOU are being the bias one in this situation. We all know this movie isn't as great as you and all these fans are saying it is yet it's you people trying to force us to accept your damn opinions. Trying to come into every thread and defend this average ass movie until WB signs you on as a promoter. To be honest I could care less about your opinion and I don't want to hear your thoughts on any movie ever again. Though I am glad you enjoyed it and can't wait to see what DC is gonna bring us with Suicide Squad.

Your review being longer means nothing for its quality.

And you just ruined your credibility by admitting to be a liar and a hypocrite.

Before you attempt to talk about my reputation. How about you go and earn some.

Your posts give me plenty reason to doubt your credibility. I let my actions speak for myself. Yours tell a different story.

Did I really now??? LOL so instead of giving you a complete answer on everything I insulted you?? Bro all I called you were a fanboy so stop getting all teary eyed.

Damn it's going to take you that long to come back at me? Smh sad indeed.

You don't know what an insult is.

insult
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1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
"you're insulting the woman I love"
synonyms: offend, give/cause offence to, affront, abuse, be rude to, call someone names, slight, disparage, discredit, libel, slander, malign, defame, denigrate, cast aspersions on, impugn, slur, revile, calumniate; More
noun
ˈɪnsʌlt/
1.
a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or act.
"he hurled insults at us"
synonyms: abusive remark, jibe, affront, slight, snub, barb, slur, backhanded compliment, injury, libel, slander, defamation, abuse, disparagement, depreciation, impugnment, revilement, humiliation, indignity, insolence, rudeness; More
2.
MEDICINE
an event which causes damage to a tissue or organ.
"the movement of the bone causes a severe tissue insult"

You were rude and disrespectful so yes, you insulted me.

 

[Adam Driver]

+rep for whoever reads essay above ^

 

[Marin]

+rep for whoever reads essay above ^

Hey, not even the first one.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

All arguments are over GG

 

[Marin]

All arguments are over GG

Say something meaningful? Nah, just link a Random review and call IT gg.

Well, didnt expect much anyway.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Say something meaningful? Nah, just link a Random review and call IT gg.

Well, didnt expect much anyway.

Lmfao bro the movie aint gonna beat Civil War and your universe is built on Supermans bones XD

 

[Marin]

Lmfao bro the movie aint gonna beat Civil War and your universe is built on Supermans bones XD

Favouring a movie before it comes out is a sign of bias. I can see it being better than BvS tho. Not that it has anything to do with my reply, but u seem to have forsaken ur own thread so w\e.

My universe has nothing to do with Superman. Its an original setting. Btw ur heavily inconsistent u know. First u say u wont reply. Then here u are again.

 

[Berkenstiel]

All arguments are over GG

Welp this opinion showed us U_U

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

Watched the movie its okay but i will watch marvel's captain america over this any day any time nice review bro, the plot was good but not as good as the hype the movie got