[Discussion] Jack was...

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People see First mates getting thrashed back and forth and already we come to a conclusion that they are all fodders. But no one took the time to look at the opponents. Jack got hit by an island, who besides a logia is tanking an island to the face?
If he wasn't such a one dimensional (in terms of what he showed) fighter he could've dodged if impretty sure doffy or Marco could've dodged/ flew away... Or doffy could've used bird cage on it and I feel like until shown Marco could've used his regeneration to tank most of the attack...
(Reason I call him one dimensional is because he fought the minks and couldn't get passed them until he used that weapon it kind of imploes he's one dimensional and had to resort to using that as weapon because he couldn't beat them on his own prowess but had to use Caesars )
 

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LMFAO

what would Jozu's versatility have done? Jump in the water?
If u read I said either feats or portrayal Jozu already held an ice burg if u don't know how much an average one weighs I think u should look it up Jozu potentially could've tanked it like he did mihawk slash or attempt to catch it
As for portrayal and feats I was speaking in terms of bAttling jack
 

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If u read I said either feats or portrayal Jozu already held an ice burg if u don't know how much an average one weighs I think u should look it up Jozu potentially could've tanked it like he did mihawk slash or attempt to catch it
As for portrayal and feats I was speaking in terms of bAttling jack
that thing was way bigger, and it was on its way down. Gravity is on the trunks side. Much different than simply lifting something stationary.

I agree the way Jack looked there was fodder like, but the way you said Jozu's versatility made me laugh, cause Jozu is a living brick haha.
 

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that thing was way bigger, and it was on its way down. Gravity is on the trunks side. Much different than simply lifting something stationary.

I agree the way Jack looked there was fodder like, but the way you said Jozu's versatility made me laugh, cause Jozu is a living brick haha.

Again versitity referred to sabo and there was slash also portrayal feats and versitlity referred to a battle with Jack not the elephant
 

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If he wasn't such a one dimensional (in terms of what he showed) fighter he could've dodged if impretty sure doffy or Marco could've dodged/ flew away... Or doffy could've used bird cage on it and I feel like until shown Marco could've used his regeneration to tank most of the attack...
Marco is debatable because he kept up with the likes of kizaru, who's arguably the most fastest characters in OP. Doflamingo, no. That's not happening. Marco can't tank Zou either.
(Reason I call him one dimensional is because he fought the minks and couldn't get passed them until he used that weapon it kind of imploes he's one dimensional and had to resort to using that as weapon because he couldn't beat them on his own prowess but had to use Caesars )
He fought the strongest for 5 days straight, each of them getting rest in between. So if these legendary figures that were part of Rogers or Whitebeard (not sure which) can't take down Jack, then of course he's not one dimensional. His fighting style is to bait people in and damage them with a huge counterattack. Like Blackbeard.
 

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Like this guy said,
Jack got hit by an island, who besides a logia is tanking an island to the face?
People are complaining that First-mates aren't living up to their hypes, that's untrue. In fact, none of these are First-mates; Both WB and Kaido has similar system on their ships,

Captain --> Division Commanders --> Crew divisions

These commanders even though serve under a Yonko directly, but have a serious gap between them and their captain. Therefore, they aren't the way their hype is...

Only true First-mate in such top-tier crews is Ben Beckman.
 

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I find it funny how people post like sheep, suddenly everyone's opinion changed..

The fact that Jack was dumb doesn't mean Doffy'd win now.. I'm not sure who'd win (though it'd probably be Jack, though I can see Doffy winning too) but this one shot only tells that tomorrow isn't guaranteed.

Jack thought the trunk wouldn't attack back and that was his downfall, not his lack in strength or something
 
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