Jirobo VS Sasori Arc Sakura

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You are repeating same thing over and over again dk

 

[Icelerate]

@Bold:
Lol because this is a rasengan right?

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No but chakra was still released by Naruto even for a moment's notice. You make it sound like as soon as chakra is built up in Sakura's fist, it instantly gets absorbed which is simply wrong based on Naruto being able to release some of it. He couldn't maintain it due to the chakra absorption making it difficult for him to maintain the same level of chakra control he'd normally have.

Underlined: that was a wounded tsunade coming out of the lightning teleportation thing.

Touche.

 

[Curse Mark]

No but chakra was still released by Naruto even for a moment's notice. You make it sound like as soon as chakra is built up in Sakura's fist, it instantly gets absorbed which is simply wrong based on Naruto being able to release some of it. He couldn't maintain it due to the chakra absorption making it difficult for him to maintain the same level of chakra control he'd normally have.


Touche.

That little amount of chakra can't really be compared to CES though. Naruto being able to squirt out a little doesn't mean much when CES requires a lot more chakra than that and also is a lot more difficult to f

 

[DrProof]

The fact Naruto

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refutes the point that CES released instantly will be ineffective due to chakra absorbing property especially when Naruto claimed he can't prepare it due to lack of chakra control, which Sakura excels in. CES is internal chakra buildup, rasengan is external chakra build up so the two don't even compare to the same degree when it comes to getting absorbed as the external chakra will be easier to absorb.

Madara was smart enough to know preta path wouldn't work.

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has been tanked by edo Madara who also

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so there wouldn't be any substantial damage suffered by Madara.

Bruh you CANNOT be serious right now.

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THIS is a bunch of unstable ass chakra assimilated out of desperation, and chakra interference. CES takes not only precision, and concentration, but it also takes a stable source of chakra. The picture above is what would have been a Rasengan.

Now imagine Sakura trying to apply CES to the dome, upon trying to muster any type of chakra via concentration into her fist, it'd end up like the above failed attempt @ Rasengan. Here's what would happen:

a. Dome absorbs Sakura's chakra
b. Sakura tries to accumulate chakra in a focus point (her fist)
c. The chakra is constantly distorted disabling her to form CES.
d. Sakura punches the dome in efforts to smash it.
e. The Dome doesn't give due to CES not being molded due to the chakra distortion, and CES requiring a stable, concentrated source of chakra.
f. Sakura dies due to chakra diminish.

This is so damn simple.

@Unorthodox yo we can get a debate going anytime bruh. Wassup? You know you've had an L coming for awhile now. It's fated.
@Curse Mark, don't trip fam I always got your back with the S4.

 

[Icelerate]

That little amount of chakra can't really be compared to CES though. Naruto being able to squirt out a little doesn't mean much when CES requires a lot more chakra than that and also is a lot more difficult to f

Since when did CES require a lot more chakra? Although if you are right, that just proves my point because the small amount of chakra absorbed from the rasengan doesn't compare with the much larger chakra quantity in CES. CES is simply a sudden release of chakra and doesn't require shape manipulation like the rasengan does.

 

[DrProof]

Since when did CES require a lot more chakra? Although if you are right, that just proves my point because the small amount of chakra absorbed from the rasengan doesn't compare with the much larger chakra quantity in CES. CES is simply a sudden release of chakra and doesn't require shape manipulation like the rasengan does.

What the f*ck is this? First off I want to debunk this whole bunch of bullshit, contradicting nonsense. How the hell do you really think CES takes more chakra than Rasengan?! A technique where the user has to SHAPE MANIPULATE, and CONCENTRATE @ A FOCUS POINT (You said this same shit in your post what in the hell how do you contradict yourself in the same shit bruh?!).

CES has no set limit on quantity/quality it merely takes near perfect chakra control, similar to how Rasengan does. THAT IS ALL.

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To perform, and keep active techniques such as Rasengan, Chidori, CES etc. The user has to have a STABLE, and ACTIVE chakra source. Obviously in the scan Curse Mark linked you can CLEARLY see that when the dome is up neither is happening. Holy shit, I'm really going to have to go off today.

 

[Icelerate]

Bruh you CANNOT be serious right now.

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THIS is a bunch of unstable ass chakra assimilated out of desperation, and chakra interference. CES takes not only precision, and concentration, but it also takes a stable source of chakra. The picture above is what would have been a Rasengan.

Now imagine Sakura trying to apply CES to the dome, upon trying to muster any type of chakra via concentration into her fist, it'd end up like the above failed attempt @ Rasengan. Here's what would happen:

a. Dome absorbs Sakura's chakra
b. Sakura tries to accumulate chakra in a focus point (her fist)
c. The chakra is constantly distorted disabling her to form CES.
d. Sakura punches the dome in efforts to smash it.
e. The Dome doesn't give due to CES not being molded due to the chakra distortion, and CES requiring a stable, concentrated source of chakra.
f. Sakura dies due to chakra diminish.

This is so damn simple.

@Unorthodox yo we can get a debate going anytime bruh. Wassup? You know you've had an L coming for awhile now. It's fated.
@Curse Mark, don't trip fam I always got your back with the S4.

Rasengan requires stability due to shape manipulation which CES doesn't need. CES doesn't require concentration and is done effortlessly with far less prep time than rasengan.

a. Correct.
b. Okay.
c. Why will chakra be distorted?
d. Okay.
e. The dome doesn't distort chakra, it absorbs it. She'll have enough chakra to use CES at the beginning of the fight.
f. No.

 

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Underlined: that was a wounded tsunade coming out of the lightning teleportation thing.

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and don't see how scan of naruto trying rasengan without clone helping ur case

 

[Icelerate]

What the f*ck is this? First off I want to debunk this whole bunch of bullshit, contradicting nonsense. How the hell do you really think CES takes more chakra than Rasengan?! A technique where the user has to SHAPE MANIPULATE, and CONCENTRATE @ A FOCUS POINT (You said this same shit in your post what in the hell how do you contradict yourself in the same shit bruh?!).

This goes to show your reading comprehension. I never said CES takes more chakra than rasengan. That's what Curse Mark says. I merely claimed what would happen in the case he is correct. There is no contradiction, it's playing devil's advocate.

CES has no set limit on quantity/quality it merely takes near perfect chakra control, similar to how Rasengan does. THAT IS ALL.

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To perform, and keep active techniques such as Rasengan, Chidori, CES etc. The user has to have a STABLE, and ACTIVE chakra source. Obviously in the scan Curse Mark linked you can CLEARLY see that when the dome is up neither is happening. Holy shit, I'm really going to have to go off today.

In regards to your stability point, Sakura's chakra will be draining away but the chakra she still has will be stable. Not some distorted mess like you claim. In regards to your active chakra source point, Sakura still has access to her chakra, it doesn't all drain away nigh instantly. The scan you posted debunks your own argument. Kakashi states, "she builds up a maximum amount of chakra in her fist and releases it instantly." She releases it right after building up the chakra so I fail to see how the dome will absorb all that chakra instantly.

The scan Curse Mark showed me shows that Naruto can't use rasengan due to not having enough chakra control to do so. That doesn't mean his Shippuden versions, let alone Sakura.

 

[Curse Mark]

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and don't see how scan of naruto trying rasengan without clone helping ur case

**** you mean? You linked to an entirely different scan than the one I replied to.

Yeah I bet Naruto would have been much better off if he first divided what chakra he had before he tried to use it smh. He would have doubled the speed of absorption lol.


Also Ice you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying CES requires more chakra than rasengan. I was saying more than those little whisps of chakra naruto squeezed out.

 

[DrProof]

Rasengan requires stability due to shape manipulation which CES doesn't need. CES doesn't require concentration and is done effortlessly with far less prep time than rasengan.

a. Correct.
b. Okay.
c. Why will chakra be distorted?
d. Okay.
e. The dome doesn't distort chakra, it absorbs it. She'll have enough chakra to use CES at the beginning of the fight.
f. No.

Hooooooly shiiiiiit. What are you even SAYING?! I don't know what the hell to shit on first.

Okay first off: Your first incorrect claim. "CES doesn't require concentration" Oh LORD:

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On to your second incorrect claim: "Dome doesn't distort chakra". OH MY GODDD.

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First off you have to know what distort actually means bruh:

To change the natural, normal, or original shape, appearance, or sound of (something) in a way that is usually not attractive or pleasing
To change (something) so that it is no longer true or accurate

Now lets see what a NORMAL Rasengan looks like.

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Okay now lets look what a DISTORTED Rasengan looks like.

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Absorbing chakra = distorting it. Look @ how when someone is in Genjutsu, and a stronger chakra courses through them breaking the Genjutsu, that is called distorting. When what was previously true, is no longer the same. Do you get it now?

 

[Icelerate]

Also Ice you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying CES requires more chakra than rasengan. I was saying more than those little whisps of chakra naruto squeezed out.

I see but it still doesn't prove your point unless you think any character no matter how skilled they are can only squeeze out little whisps of chakra in the dome.

 

[DrProof]

This goes to show your reading comprehension. I never said CES takes more chakra than rasengan. That's what Curse Mark says. I merely claimed what would happen in the case he is correct. There is no contradiction, it's playing devil's advocate.

In regards to your stability point, Sakura's chakra will be draining away but the chakra she still has will be stable. Not some distorted mess like you claim. In regards to your active chakra source point, Sakura still has access to her chakra, it doesn't all drain away nigh instantly. The scan you posted debunks your own argument. Kakashi states, "she builds up a maximum amount of chakra in her fist and releases it instantly." She releases it right after building up the chakra so I fail to see how the dome will absorb all that chakra instantly.

The scan Curse Mark showed me shows that Naruto can't use rasengan due to not having enough chakra control to do so. That doesn't mean his Shippuden versions, let alone Sakura.

BRUH tries to diss my comprehension. Doesn't know what the f*ck distortion means. LMAOOOOOOOOO.

Do you not see what you're posting right now? lmaooooo.

HOW in the hell does a technique that requires PRECISE, CONCENTRATED chakra control when it's distorted STILL STAY STABLE. Do you not know how stupidly contradicting you are sounding?! AGAIN.

There's a full bucket of water, balancing itself on a thin rope. Stable.
Rain starts to pour, and a single rain drop squeezes itself into the bucket of water. Distorted.
The bucket due to being over capacity tips over, and falls off the thin rope. End Result.

It's really simple bruh. Distortion can be attained by either giving or taking. Genjutsu is the BEST example of this.

If her chakra isn't stable she isn't forming CES because the dome is absorbing chakra CONTINUOUSLY.

 

[DrProof]

Lmaoo this thread got me turnt. I mean like Draegod, and Prince Charles turnt. Let's go. I'm ready to hand out L's.

 

[BLAZE]

**** you mean? You linked to an entirely different scan than the one I replied to.

Nah just osted the scan Ice talked about

Yeah I bet Naruto would have been much better off if he first divided what chakra he had before he tried to use it smh. He would have doubled the speed of absorption lol.

Genius
You know naruto couldn't perform rasengan without clone

 

[DrProof]

Nah just osted the scan Ice talked about

Genius
You know naruto couldn't perform rasengan without clone

Yo so you think Sakura wins too?! Go ahead, and post some shit bruh.

 

[Icelerate]

Hooooooly shiiiiiit. What are you even SAYING?! I don't know what the hell to shit on first.

Okay first off: Your first incorrect claim. "CES doesn't require concentration" Oh LORD:

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Okay I was wrong but it is done much faster than rasengan and requires less concentration than the rasengan.

On to your second incorrect claim: "Dome doesn't distort chakra". OH MY GODDD.

First off you have to know what distort actually means bruh:

To change the natural, normal, or original shape, appearance, or sound of (something) in a way that is usually not attractive or pleasing
To change (something) so that it is no longer true or accurate

Now lets see what a NORMAL Rasengan looks like.

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Okay now lets look what a DISTORTED Rasengan looks like.

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Absorbing chakra = distorting it. Look @ how when someone is in Genjutsu, and a stronger chakra courses through them breaking the Genjutsu, that is called distorting. When what was previously true, is no longer the same. Do you get it now?

Rasengan was distorted because Naruto couldn't maintain the chakra control to keep it from being formed properly. That doesn't mean that the person who is losing chakra can no longer mold it properly due to being "distorted". The chakra inside one's body isn't being distorted like it is done when genjutsu is being broken out of. If it was, then I guess genjutsu is broken if you get your chakra absorbed.

Chouji managed to use his

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and managed to keep his fatness for long enough (

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) without the chakra being used to maintain that fatness get absorbed.

 

[Curse Mark]

Nah just osted the scan Ice talked about

Genius
You know naruto couldn't perform rasengan without clone

Lmao sit down if you think these two scans are the same thing.

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Those two scans are 15 chapters and some odd pages apart. wtf.

 

[BLAZE]

Yo so you think Sakura wins too?! Go ahead, and post some shit bruh.

U r already deating with beans

 

[BLAZE]

Those two scans are 15 chapters and some odd pages apart. wtf.

Was talking about his point madara not absorbing CES
And use spoiler tag