[VS] Sasuke retrieval group vs Hidan

Sasuke retrieval group vs Hidan

  • retrieval group wins

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • hidan wins

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

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When has Neji ever used the two techniques back to back that quickly? I don't think he'd be able to jump the gap and complete 64 palms before hidan just jumps backwards.
It's a simple process though. Not only does Byakugan allow him to perceive better, but it allows him to distribute his chakra perfectly. Neji would easily be able to calculate how much % of chakra was needed to perform Rotation, stop it, then successfully combo in 64 palms.

I strongly believe Neji is much faster than Hidan even in Pt.1 due to this scan Draegod linked me awhile back:

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The impressive feat here is that Neji on his deathbed blitzed that distance before Kidomaru could fall, and touch the ground. And it literally only takes 1-2 seconds to hit the ground, from where Kidomaru was:






Neji literally blitzed easily 50+ meters in a second.
 

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It's a simple process though. Not only does Byakugan allow him to perceive better, but it allows him to distribute his chakra perfectly. Neji would easily be able to calculate how much % of chakra was needed to perform Rotation, stop it, then successfully combo in 64 palms.

I strongly believe Neji is much faster than Hidan even in Pt.1 due to this scan Draegod linked me awhile back:

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The impressive feat here is that Neji on his deathbed blitzed that distance before Kidomaru could fall, and touch the ground. And it literally only takes 1-2 seconds to hit the ground, from where Kidomaru was:






Neji literally blitzed easily 50+ meters in a second.
had this discussion before. You can see Kido hitting branches as he fell. We have no idea how long it took him to reach the ground.
 

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WTF? Off panel? And even that way, there are indications that he used rotation. Lol "His chakra control alone makes hidans cqc assaults meaningless" Neji has only showed to release chakra from all his points at once, he hasn't showed to do it constantly, it's not useful against Hidan's unorthodox style.

Not to mention gentle fist wouldn't work on Hidan, so yeah, Neji gets stomped, even part 2 Neji loses low diff.
It should be pretty clear he used rotation in that scan though


WTF? Ur kiddin right? He used this very exact same chakra control method to change the trajectory of arrows which were bending full grown trees with shear force when passing by , and were capable of plowing a whole forrest down to hit the mark with 100% accuracy , he did this feat while heavily injured to the point of calasp.


That scan itself debunks ur post in so many ways its almost "not " funny , it even used ur exact words with the keyword being "constantly " Lol and it also means any attack hidan has in his arsenal is easily neg fcking diffed by neji's chakra.


Its also clear that if neji spun at all , a crater would be present underneath him no matter wat , this is a undisputed fact of kaiten since the chakra would grind into the earth , not a stone was moved under neji in that scan meaning no rotation unless u can bring a scan where rotation was used without a crater being present afterwards , I'll wait.


-This perfect chakra control is more than usefull against hidans style , his attacks get seen/sensed with byakugan then neji can emit chakra from anywhere to stop it , he can then use rotation at any opportune time to knock hidan on his ass followed by mass amounts of naruto's clones dogpiling him from all sides , kiba then rips him to pieces with double wolf while he's immobilized.



-Neji won't try to kill hidan with jyuken an I'm not even sure why u mentioned it.

make a thread for p2 neji vs hid an so I can show u who gets low diffed.
 
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Hidan can still feel the pain, and his body is like any other humans. It's just that he can't be killed is all. If Hidan were to be struck in his chakra points he'd crumble over, though he'd still be alive. Neji could stalemate Hidan in CQC due to rotation honestly.
m8, Hidan was moving perfectly with his spine pierced. He can't be crippled and pain does not stop him. Blocking his chakra points would cause nothing to him if he can move with his spine pierced. Don't anallyze this as a normal human body.

Hidan's body is more durable (tanked aatsugai) and Hidan himself, if gets damaged, does not get stopped by the pain or things like that.

Hidan shits on this version of Neji (who got blitzed by Kurenai). You're acting like if Hidan won't react and jump back from rotation, and once Neji stops spinning, he totally blitzes with a straight attack.
 

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WTF? Ur kiddin right? He used this very exact same chakra control method to change the trajectory of arrows which were bending full grown trees with shear force when passing by , and were capable of plowing a whole forrest down to hit the mark with 100% accuracy , he did this feat while heavily injured to the point of calasp.


That scan itself debunks ur post in so many ways its almost "not " funny , it even used ur exact words with the keyword being "constantly " Lol and it also means any attack hidan has in his arsenal is easily neg fcking diffed by neji's chakra.


Its also clear that if neji spun at all , a crater would be present underneath him no matter wat , this is a undisputed fact of kaiten since the chakra would grind into the earth , not a stone was moved under neji in that scan meaning no rotation unless u can bring a scan where rotation was used without a crater being present afterwards , I'll wait.


-This perfect chakra control is more than usefull against hidans style , his attacks get seen/sensed with byakugan then neji can emit chakra from anywhere to stop it , he can then use rotation at any opportune time to knock hidan on his ass followed by mass amounts of naruto's clones dogpiling him from all sides , kiba then rips him to pieces with double wolf while he's immobilized.



-Neji won't try to kill hidan with jyuken an I'm not even sure why u mentioned it.

make a thread for p2 neji vs hid an so I can show u who gets low diffed.
Make the thread yourself. I'll post in it.
 

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It's a simple process though. Not only does Byakugan allow him to perceive better, but it allows him to distribute his chakra perfectly. Neji would easily be able to calculate how much % of chakra was needed to perform Rotation, stop it, then successfully combo in 64 palms.

I strongly believe Neji is much faster than Hidan even in Pt.1 due to this scan Draegod linked me awhile back:

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The impressive feat here is that Neji on his deathbed blitzed that distance before Kidomaru could fall, and touch the ground. And it literally only takes 1-2 seconds to hit the ground, from where Kidomaru was:






Neji literally blitzed easily 50+ meters in a second.
Those distances mean nothing to shinobi standards. What you should actually anallyze is the speed of the fall. The acceleration on free fall is always 9.8 m/ss and that's without taking into account Kido hitting branches.

Sharinganless Kakashi and even part 1 Sakura have performed pretty fast to deal with free fall. To them, that acceleration is really slow, they're super humans.

Sakura reacted and calculated perfectly where to throw a kunai stopping Naruto to fall and die during the chunnin exams. Kakashi did it in the Kaguya arc. Yamato did 2 jutsus and even talked to Sai as Sakura was falling. Sorry i dont post the scans, the last one i mentioned is on the Kabuto-Orochimaru-Sasori arc on pt2.

Hidan is a lot faster than part 1 Neji man, he kept up with Kakashi sunshin wise. His attacks are slow, but his movement speed itself is high.
 

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Having your heart pierced by a stick is more than internal damage. So still, Hidan survives it LIKE NOTHING hapened.
I agree. I'm just saying 64 palms causes internal damage but like I said in the quote you replied to i wasnt discussing its effect on Hidan, just that it will occur on him


So u concede to the topic at hand then I tale it?
Uh doesn't seem that way at all seems like you said lets continue this in a new thread and he agreed.
 

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Why? I don't agree with you post at all. I tought you wanted to argue it in a different thread that is titled p2 Neji vs Hidan
Because this is a good match-up imp which should be concluded.

P2 Neji vs hidan is a much different matchup than this plus or the one the brought up p2 neji vs hid an , I wasn't gonna even answer it at first.
 

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Because this is a good match-up imp which should be concluded.

P2 Neji vs hidan is a much different matchup than this plus or the one the brought up p2 neji vs hid an , I wasn't gonna even answer it at first.
? You didn't even know this was part 1 neji until the other thread though
 

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? You didn't even know this was part 1 neji until the other thread though
Ridiculous , read our posts , I told ezq to make a separate thread with part2 neji since he claimed hidan would also low diff.. And that was at the very end of my post after outlining how the SRA Group can defeat hidan , in this specific thread , which he blatantly ignored in favor of a new thread being made.

Why end this thread without debunking or conceding to the argument at hand when the debate has already started by him quoting me in the first place.
 
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Ridiculous , read our posts , I told ezq to make a separate thread with part2 neji since he claimed hidan would also low diff.. And that was at the very end of my post after outlining how the SRA Group can defeat hidan , in this specific thread , which he blatantly ignored in favor of a new thread being made.

Why end this thread without debunking or conceding to the argument at hand when the debate has already started by him quoting me in the first place.
Ridiculous is a bit of an overstatement. Really seemed like you didn't know what the thread was referring to when you asked what was referred to..

OK, wat version of neji was refered to in the other thread? Part2 neji right?
 

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They get demolished.
They all die, don't compare hidan to chunin tier characters.
Wellllllll.

-Part 2 Shikamaru's shadows couldn't catch Hidan, even with Asuma pressuring him so SRA Shika's shadow posession isn't catching him either.
-Hidan's speed and skill in kenjutsu was shown to be on par with Early Shippuden Kakashi's, who blitzed Neji in the Chuunin exams before he could strike Hinata from a meter away. 64 Palms isn't likely to do anything to Hidan either, due to immortality and the fact that his curse doesn't even use chakra (that we known of.) at the same time, I don't see how Hidan and his scythe could get past rotation so I wonder how he takes out Neji.
-Kiba probably poses the biggest threat since he can cut Hidan in half and with his teammates distracting Hidan, he can nail him like he did Sakon/Ukon.
-Naruto's shadow clones aren't all that useful except to act as distractions.

Overall I think the Genin can win this.
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Can shadow clones give Hidan blood?
lmao. wow, kinda suprise w/ the choice of hidan winning. i knew hidan had the speed and skill to dodge most speed feats since he easily was able to hold his own against 3T kakashi in combat. so 1v1, 1v2, hell even 1v3 he could beat them. but i didn't really think he could beat all 5, especially w/ shikamaru's genius and naruto's massive shadow clone tactics. i mean, let's be honest. only reason hidan easily dealt w/ asuma's group cause his squad's abilities were average at best, even worst with the lack of intel of hidan. but here, shikamaru has a much greater ploys to outwit hidan (someone who can be easily fooled) w/ retrieval group feats at his disposal. also, why i'm not surprised this turned into a neji vs insert character thread again? smh lol
 

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lmao. wow, kinda suprise w/ the choice of hidan winning. i knew hidan had the speed and skill to dodge most speed feats since he easily was able to hold his own against 3T kakashi in combat. so 1v1, 1v2, hell even 1v3 he could beat them. but i didn't really think he could beat all 5, especially w/ shikamaru's genius and naruto's massive shadow clone tactics. i mean, let's be honest. only reason hidan easily dealt w/ asuma's group cause his squad's abilities were average at best, even worst with the lack of intel of hidan. but here, shikamaru has a much greater ploys to outwit hidan (someone who can be easily fooled) w/ retrieval group feats at his disposal. also, why i'm not surprised this turned into a neji vs insert character thread again? smh lol
Stopped reading after you called Asuma's squad average. Nobody's wanking Hidan. He literally takes a shit on them
 

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They get demolished.
They all die, don't compare hidan to chunin tier characters.
Wellllllll.

-Part 2 Shikamaru's shadows couldn't catch Hidan, even with Asuma pressuring him so SRA Shika's shadow posession isn't catching him either.
-Hidan's speed and skill in kenjutsu was shown to be on par with Early Shippuden Kakashi's, who blitzed Neji in the Chuunin exams before he could strike Hinata from a meter away. 64 Palms isn't likely to do anything to Hidan either, due to immortality and the fact that his curse doesn't even use chakra (that we known of.) at the same time, I don't see how Hidan and his scythe could get past rotation so I wonder how he takes out Neji.
-Kiba probably poses the biggest threat since he can cut Hidan in half and with his teammates distracting Hidan, he can nail him like he did Sakon/Ukon.
-Naruto's shadow clones aren't all that useful except to act as distractions.

Overall I think the Genin can win this.
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Can shadow clones give Hidan blood?
Stopped reading after you called Asuma's squad average. Nobody's wanking Hidan. He literally takes a shit on them
his squad is avg dude. (not including shikamaru).
 

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Hidan can control his body without it being properly connected (Kakuzu's stitches don't replace the sliced bone and other things hanging around in his neck) doubt chakra systems were fixed either which means his immortality stretches to being able to bypass the energy of life itself.

Hidan shits here anyways no one touches him.
 

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Hidan can control his body without it being properly connected (Kakuzu's stitches don't replace the sliced bone and other things hanging around in his neck) doubt chakra systems were fixed either which means his immortality stretches to being able to bypass the energy of life itself.

Hidan shits here anyways no one touches him.
Solid point. But werent those stitches removed by the time they fought again? So it heals over time
 
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