The Uchiha clan were nerfed hard

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First off losing someone precious to you doesn't awaken a RinneSharingan or a Rinnegan.

Second off the Uchihas weren't nerfed. We got to see their full potential and how OP they were especially with genjutsus. Granted that Sasuke was nerfed in VOTE 2 mainly because of his inexperience with the Rinnegan's abiilities and him trying to figure it out. This doesn't account for the fact that the whole Clan was nerfed.

The Uchiha weren't nerfed. They had pratically all the power most importantly controlling the Bijuu but also you must remember that the Sharingan is rare within the Uchiha Clan. The Uchiha Clan as a whole were feared so I don't know why people blatantly throw around the word nerf anytime the plot doesn't fit their liking.
I think he means nerf in a sense they don't use all their potential. Madara didn't display all the six path's abilities, for some reason obito couldn't use kumai as a juubi jon but Madara could, VOTE2 as you said, typically those with the most potential are nerfed. One could argue Izuna should've used izanagi to survive neing ckeaved by tobirama or that Madara could use izanami on Hashirama turning his heart completely into Madara's slave. The Uchiha's potential just leaves a lot of unanswered questions and "possibilities" when these possibilities stent exploited it's ofyen called a "nerf" hope this helped.
 

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First off losing someone precious to you doesn't awaken a RinneSharingan or a Rinnegan.

Second off the Uchihas weren't nerfed. We got to see their full potential and how OP they were especially with genjutsus. Granted that Sasuke was nerfed in VOTE 2 mainly because of his inexperience with the Rinnegan's abiilities and him trying to figure it out. This doesn't account for the fact that the whole Clan was nerfed.

The Uchiha weren't nerfed. They had pratically all the power most importantly controlling the Bijuu but also you must remember that the Sharingan is rare within the Uchiha Clan. The Uchiha Clan as a whole were feared so I don't know why people blatantly throw around the word nerf anytime the plot doesn't fit their liking.
I was jokong when I said that Sarada would get Rinne Sharingan
 

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Uchiha were perfectly fine (though slightly OP) with just 3 tomoe, Things just got outright ridiculous with the introduction of MS and even more so when EMS got thrown into the mix.
 

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As OP'd as they were it's no question they were nerfed. MS is an amazing power but you go blind just from using it? Theres also the fact Uchihas had powers like izanagi and izanami. Forbidden techs and has the ability to copy all jutsus but we've only seen a handful use those abilties. They were nerfed pretty hard.
 
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Technically speaking the OP is correct.

The Senju clan was known as the strongest due to the very fact the Uchiha sealed off "love" eg; their capability to acquire the Sharingan. If the Uchiha Clan had awakened the Sharingan in the War Era they would've been noted as the strongest clan in Konoha rather than the Senju.

So in that aspect yes, Kishi "nerfed" them.
WTF? :| That makes no sense at all. It's like your finding an excuse this:

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WTF? :| That makes no sense at all. It's like your finding an excuse this:

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You can't be serious right now lol. The Senju, and the Uchiha were renowned as the strongest clans, you don't even need to read the whole manga to come to this realization. Seriously lol.

I love the Hyuuga clan, but they were not the strongest.
 

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WTF? :| That makes no sense at all. It's like your finding an excuse this:

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During the Warring States Period, ninja were organised into small mercenary clans that knew nothing but battle. The two strongest of these clans were the Senju and the Uchiha, who had warred against each other for their entire histories. Eventually, intending to end the countless bloodshed, Hashirama Senju used his position as leader of his clan to create a truce with the Uchiha clan. The Senju, the Uchiha, and their affiliated clans formed the first shinobi village: Konohagakure — a name invented by Madara himself. Other villages would soon start being formed following Konoha's example, ending the Warring States Period.

The Uchiha, and Senju were known as the strongest clans, even before Konoha was built.
 

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You can't be serious right now lol. The Senju, and the Uchiha were renowned as the strongest clans, you don't even need to read the whole manga to come to this realization. Seriously lol.

I love the Hyuuga clan, but they were not the strongest.
True, they were said to be the strongest clan, however, in Konoha, manga facts point to Hyuga.
 

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WTF? :| That makes no sense at all. It's like your finding an excuse this:

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Considering the fact that there were no Senju nor Uchiha in the Village in that moment, yes the Hyuga were the strongest clan ;)
 

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Regardless, there is no scans saying Senju or Uchiha were strong in Konoha.
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Hiashi was just trying to motivate his fellow clansmen is all.
 

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Hiashi was just trying to motivate his fellow clansmen is all.
Good for proving me wrong about the Uchiha scans. However...

Let's go back to your quote.....


If the Uchiha Clan had awakened the Sharingan in the War Era they would've been noted as the strongest clan in Konoha rather than the Senju.
:| So, by that logic, they are stronger than the Senju?
 

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Good for proving me wrong about the Uchiha scans. However...

Let's go back to your quote.....




:| So, by that logic, they are stronger than the Senju?
I didn't prove you wrong, you can actually take rather the Hyuga are the strongest or not. It's really up to what inconsistent writing you want to believe fam.

Yeah, technically they are, or would've been due to Tobirama's statement here:

"While the Senju clan considered their power to be love."
"They awaken something even stronger than the Senju's love."
"The Sharingan"
"The Sharingan aligns with the person's feelings, and quickly makes them stronger."

Tobirama outright admitted to the Uchiha being superior to the Uchiha if they'd not locked away the emotion known as love. Because it endangered themselves, and the village. Basically they cut off their ability to unlock the Sharingan at the time due to fear of their own power.
 

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Tobirama outright admitted to the Uchiha being superior to the Uchiha if they'd not locked away the emotion known as love. Because it endangered themselves, and the village. Basically they cut off their ability to unlock the Sharingan at the time due to fear of their own power.
That doesn't explain why the uchiha could not defeat the senju pre-konoha and pre-alliance with the senju.

During the time they were at constant war with the senju (before tobirama/hashirama became prominent member of the senju). They had their sharingans, meaning they were utilizing their power of love and emotions and still couldn't defeat the senju once and for all. If the uchiha were indeed stronger then it should of been portrayed as such, which is wasn't.
 

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That doesn't explain why the uchiha could not defeat the senju pre-konoha and pre-alliance with the senju.

During the time they were at constant war with the senju (before tobirama/hashirama became prominent member of the senju). They had their sharingans, meaning they were utilizing their power of love and emotions and still couldn't defeat the senju once and for all. If the uchiha were indeed stronger then it should of been portrayed as such, which is wasn't.
Link me where it says the Uchiha couldn't defeat the Senju in the warring period.
 

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Link me where it says the Uchiha couldn't defeat the Senju in the warring period.
Well i think it's pretty safe to say they couldn't because they didn't.

Unless they were like, "we're at war with them and also have no problem with even killing youngsters they send out on the battle field but can we please not completely defeat them for shits and giggles"
 
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