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Kabuto didnt bring him back better than he was in his prime? In other words without Hashi's face on his chest or Rinnegan, but still young nonetheless?

I think he would've had to bring out PS against the Shinobi alliance. Once Ohnoki seen it, he would've informed the other Kage and they would've devised a plan to overthrow it.

So he would've lost against the Gokage



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Let me make it clear, the gokage can't beat EMS madara(let alone rinne madara with hashi cells). Whether madara is enhanced or not,alive or not he would slaughter them all the same.
 

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Let me make it clear, the gokage can't beat EMS madara(let alone rinne madara with hashi cells). Whether madara is enhanced or not,alive or not he would slaughter them all the same.

only not only did they survive, but he had to use preta path multiple times. its clear he needed a rinnegan against them
 

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Would've still raped the 4th division. He would've also need to use PS earlier but otherwise, I don't see him being exactly stoppable by anything short of Gai going 8th gate on his ass.

He'd definitely die at the Hokage though. Hashirama would beat him.
 

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only not only did they survive, but he had to use preta path multiple times. its clear he needed a rinnegan against them

Because he was playing with them. A clone of madara easily paralyzed the raikage with genjutsu he can easily do the same to the rest. if madara wanted he could have pulled PS from the beginning and wiped them from existence. The gokage are outmatched and outgunned by any version of madara EMS and above
 

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Becuase he didn't use P.S at the beginning.

yea because he had the Rinnegan

if he didnt have the rinnegan then he would've had to use PS against the SA. Naruto's FRS was going to kill him. The only thing that would've stopped an onslaught from Naruto SM, Gaara and Ohnoki is PS.

After that, the rest of the Gokage would've found a way to defeat the PS once they had time to prep against it
 

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Because he was playing with them. A clone of madara easily paralyzed the raikage with genjutsu he can easily do the same to the rest. if madara wanted he could have pulled PS from the beginning and wiped them from existence. The gokage are outmatched and outgunned by any version of madara EMS and above

but yet he needed to activate the rinnegan against the SA with Naruto, Gaata and Ohnoki. you call that playing?
 

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but yet he needed to activate the rinnegan against the SA with Naruto, Gaata and Ohnoki. you call that playing?

Yes, because he never used his most powerful technique(as edo madara) which he admitted was PS.

If one isn't using their most powerful techniques then they aren't at their best. Your sig shows goku vs perfect cell, they appeared to be evenly matched but in truth cell was still suppressing his true power, it is the same as when madara vs gokage
 

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Yes, because he never used his most powerful technique(as edo madara) which he admitted was PS.

If one isn't using their most powerful techniques then they aren't at their best. Your sig shows goku vs perfect cell, they appeared to be evenly matched but in truth cell was still suppressing his true power, it is the same as when madara vs gokage

Nope Cell we beyond his limits just like Trunks...
And he became fat Goku can do the same.
However you mean warm-up fight or Fatty cell?
Gohan hit him and he became fattier and fattier.
 

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Yeah he would've been beaten by Naruto or something.
 

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Yes, because he never used his most powerful technique(as edo madara) which he admitted was PS.

If one isn't using their most powerful techniques then they aren't at their best. Your sig shows goku vs perfect cell, they appeared to be evenly matched but in truth cell was still suppressing his true power, it is the same as when madara vs gokage

your analogy is off because Madara's life was in peril at moments which is why he was forced to use Preta path mutiple times. Cell never really felt threatened by goku except when he had to create a barrier, which is nothing compared to the threat he felt against lets say ssj2 gohan
 

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yea because he had the Rinnegan

if he didnt have the rinnegan then he would've had to use PS against the SA. Naruto's FRS was going to kill him. The only thing that would've stopped an onslaught from Naruto SM, Gaara and Ohnoki is PS.

After that, the rest of the Gokage would've found a way to defeat the PS once they had time to prep against it

Naruto's rasenshuriken can kill an edo tensei?
 

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In Hindsight, I feel like it would've been worse for the gang. PS would've raped them all, unless you assume 8th gate can break it, and Madara would be more willing to use it. Without immortality, Rinnegan and Wood Style, it'll be much harder to fight BM Naruto without PS, especially with Kamui man, Guy and another Bijuu backing Naruto up, so Madara would be more willing to use that;
 

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only not only did they survive, but he had to use preta path multiple times. its clear he needed a rinnegan against them

He used it because he wasn't being serious, he lets himself get hit just for the fun he experiences when fighting. If he was serious he would've stomped them with PS immediately
 

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Madara can still use shadow clones with legged susano, and PS shits on gokage any day
 
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