What is worse ?

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What is worse.

To wake up in a world where you have no family. Nobody feeds you, everyone looks at you like you are some disease (you have no idea why), to not have someone who can hug you. To never feel a motherly hug and kiss or warmth. To be forced to find ways at early life steps to feed yourself and to sleep lonely at night from day 1 while you see other kids laughing and going off from school with a parent holding their hand or buying them sweets and cheer them up when they get bad grades or when they get sick to have someone who knows treatment ?

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To live with a family, to be hugged and fed by them, to have someone to ask for advice on your early steps in life and then lose them all ?
 

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The 2nd by far is a greater pain.
 

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It depends on individual point of view and you are indirectly camparing naruto and sasuke's childhood
Honestly i am naruto fan but still sasuke childhood is worst
and even gaara had a sad childhood his own father try to kill him several time and mother died right after giving birth and on the top of that being a junchuriki ....man its too much
 

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In short, who had the worst childhood? Naruto or Sasuke?

By your description, it'd be the first one but what happened with Sasuke was worse than that, he was made witness to that inhumane slaughter...
 

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Lol at the post structure, you're obviously biased towards the first.

The second is a lot worse, knowing love then losing it is far more painful than not knowing it in the first place. Assuming you are referring to Naruto and Sasuke's cases, then in case number 2, your whole family is massacred by your own brother who you love and you're forced to live those moments for days. Yea that's a lot worse.
 

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even gaara had a sad childhood his own father try to kill him several time and mother died right after giving birth and on the top of that being a junchuriki ....man its too much

Naruto had pretty much the same, parents dying right after his birth, being a Jinchuriki... Gaara's father wasn't an exact father-figure for him, he was just another man in the village. Real heart-breaking stuff is when his uncle tried to kill him.
It's more messed up when the one close to you do the damage like Sasuke's case...
 

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Lol at the post structure, you're obviously biased towards the first.

The second is a lot worse, knowing love then losing it is far more painful than not knowing it in the first place. Assuming you are referring to Naruto and Sasuke's cases, then in case number 2, your whole family is massacred by your own brother who you love and you're forced to live those moments for days. Yea that's a lot worse.

Yeah.you got it right
 

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I guess it really depends on the kind of family you may of had. Sometimes we are better off alone.
 

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Narutos life is worse.

While Sasukes family was murdered and he was tortured, he still had people around him which love him.
 

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Lol at the post structure, you're obviously biased towards the first.

The second is a lot worse, knowing love then losing it is far more painful than not knowing it in the first place. Assuming you are referring to Naruto and Sasuke's cases, then in case number 2, your whole family is massacred by your own brother who you love and you're forced to live those moments for days. Yea that's a lot worse.

I clearly added Early Life Steps in my text structure, probably some people (not just you) are not yet prepared enough to face an idea on it's whole structure.

What do you people know about psychology ?

Well, I'll give you into it a little.

As a little child, it affects your brain a lot if you see that you are the same age with others, but they get to be treated nicely while you receive diwcky eyes all the time from parents and slowly from kids.
This type of experience from early childhood, shapes the internal structure of the brain aggressively making a weak brain to go depressive, anti-social, killer desires, etc. The first one is by far worse because you can see happiness that other get but you start to think that you will never get such a thing. Ofc you think like that if you are alone you've got noone to add to your desire =>loneliness.

What the second scenario experiences is loss accompanied by trauma.
Why this is more acceptable ? First, the age at which it happens. Second, the feeling that you do not think, but is unconscious - you got to experience warmth and love from the lost ones. Something you will never long for because you know how it feels.
In this scenario the person is only grieving the loss. He still has someone to add to his desires. *Ah, that kid has a mom and hugs him* - *Wish my mom could hug me too right now* => he can add his mom and he knows who his mom is => despair is not active.

In the first scenario *That kid is getting a hug from his mom* - *From who can I get such hug* - *My mom.. Does she loves me ?* - *Who is she ?* - *I'm all alone and everyone hates me. It's impossible for me to ever know it* - *I have so many thoughts am I even thinking normal ? Nobody wants to tell me. Everyone is cold with me. What have I done ? Have I done something wrong. Is it because I can't get grades ?* => this person experiences denial, a train of thoughts and scenarios that have no positive ending, depression, the longing for a hug, but the the despair of realizing you don't even know if you are loved or who you can add to your desire.

Have you ever felt this ? Loving a person, but never knowing if they love you back.

First person experience from birth - loneliness, despair, emptiness, aggressive with defensive behavior from people around him combine that with being all alone.

Second person experiences from conscious age (Having already been taught how to handle some things in live and how some things should work) - Loneliness, loss, grievance, revenge, anger, appreciation and praise from the others that somehow reduces this person difficulty of handling his feelings.

First one is by far worst since he has to create his life from 0. Nothing to grab on to. Nobody to talk to, nobody to appreciate, despair of being alone and not knowing who you are and what you are, etc.

If you keep saying the second scenario is worse then you clearly can't handle somethings in life and are still under parenthood.
Wishing to experience something you never had is worse than having it but not getting it anymore.

So, from people who have expertise in psychology. Being alone from start is graded above loss of family (They are graded on ages like all life changing experiences so, they both get to be graded at the same ages - early ~ mid ~ late age and for each age being alone from start is above loss of family). Because, longing for something you will never have or can't bond your thoughts with is far worse than relaxing your brain knowing you know you got that hug even thought you will never get it. Because you got it. You know how it feels. You are not in trauma state of thinking that you will never get it and your brain stops thinking at a specific point where it just starts to handle with the mixed feelings of loss, revenge of murder etc. While in the other person the thoughts don't get to have a bus station. THey keep rolling and rolling and rolling which results in a permanent painful brain activity. (Brain activity is that thing when your brain doesn't stop thinking and it's incredibly life changing and painful if it focuses on painful things)
For example a hug from a mom.
 
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Both are terrible. Sasuke may have lost who he loved but at least he had love. Naruto never had any and he was close to succumbing to his hatred. His hatred is more reasonable than Sasuke in my opinion. Then again, Naruto never suffered 72 hours of seeing his family getting killed repeatedly.
 

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I clearly added Early Life Steps in my text structure, probably some people (not just you) are not yet prepared enough to face an idea on it's whole structure.

What do you people know about psychology ?

Well, I'll give you into it a little.

As a little child, it affects your brain a lot if you see that you are the same age with others, but they get to be treated nicely while you receive diwcky eyes all the time from parents and slowly from kids.
This type of experience from early childhood, shapes the internal structure of the brain aggressively making a weak brain to go depressive, anti-social, killer desires, etc. The first one is by far worse because you can see happiness that other get but you start to think that you will never get such a thing. Ofc you think like that if you are alone you've got noone to add to your desire =>loneliness.

What the second scenario experiences is loss accompanied by trauma.
Why this is more acceptable ? First, the age at which it happens. Second, the feeling that you do not think, but is unconscious - you got to experience warmth and love from the lost ones. Something you will never long for because you know how it feels.
In this scenario the person is only grieving the loss. He still has someone to add to his desires. *Ah, that kid has a mom and hugs him* - *Wish my mom could hug me too right now* => he can add his mom and he knows who his mom is => despair is not active.

In the first scenario *That kid is getting a hug from his mom* - *From who can I get such hug* - *My mom.. Does she loves me ?* - *Who is she ?* - *I'm all alone and everyone hates me. It's impossible for me to ever know it* - *I have so many thoughts am I even thinking normal ? Nobody wants to tell me. Everyone is cold with me. What have I done ? Have I done something wrong. Is it because I can't get grades ?* => this person experiences denial, a train of thoughts and scenarios that have no positive ending, depression, the longing for a hug, but the the despair of realizing you don't even know if you are loved or who you can add to your desire.

Have you ever felt this ? Loving a person, but never knowing if they love you back.

First person experience from birth - loneliness, despair, emptiness, aggressive with defensive behavior from people around him combine that with being all alone.

Second person experiences from conscious age (Having already been taught how to handle some things in live and how some things should work) - Loneliness, loss, grievance, revenge, anger, appreciation and praise from the others that somehow reduces this person difficulty of handling his feelings.

First one is by far worst since he has to create his life from 0. Nothing to grab on to. Nobody to talk to, nobody to appreciate, despair of being alone and not knowing who you are and what you are, etc.

If you keep saying the second scenario is worse then you clearly can't handle somethings in life and are still under parenthood.
Wishing to experience something you never had is worse than having it but not getting it anymore.
For example a hug from a mom.

If you are that much sure about your own ideology and thought process then you don't require a discussion on NB and also you add a question mark in your thread what is worse ``?'' So we are just expressing our thoughts.
 

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If you are that much sure about your own ideology and thought process then you don't require a discussion on NB and also you add a question mark in your thread what is worse ``?'' So we are just expressing our thoughts.

Lol you really are anti-social.
 

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I read it like.

Be a african kid or be born in a western country lol. My bad
 

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What is worse.

To wake up in a world where you have no family. Nobody feeds you, everyone looks at you like you are some disease (you have no idea why), to not have someone who can hug you. To never feel a motherly hug and kiss or warmth. To be forced to find ways at early life steps to feed yourself and to sleep lonely at night from day 1 while you see other kids laughing and going off from school with a parent holding their hand or buying them sweets and cheer them up when they get bad grades or when they get sick to have someone who knows treatment ?

Or

To live with a family, to be hugged and fed by them, to have someone to ask for advice on your early steps in life and then lose them all ?

The village fed Naruto, and he had people that showed him compassion. You're just biased is all.

Even though Naruto's is bad, Sasuke's is worse. When you make bonds & get accustomed to people & they die, they all die, even every extended member & you have absolutely no one to relate to you its 10x worse.

I would rather not have anyone from the beginning, so I could be spared the pain of loss.
 
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