Sasuke's eyes

[Takeo]

Alright, hello people... I just spent the past 45 minutes writing a theory on how I don't think Sasuke will have the EMS when he takes his bandages off... but when I went to submit the post, it brought up the login screen again... completely wasting all of my work... So, i'll just put it in a nutshell for all of you:

1: Madara loses Nagato
2: Gedo Mazo goes dormant without Nagato
3: Madara somehow gets ahold of Nagato's Rinnegan (or someone elses)
4: Madara makes Sasuke fight at Kage Summit, knowing he will abuse the Mangekyou Sharingan, subsequently going blind
5: Sasuke willingly accepts transplant under the impression that he is receiving Itachi's eyes
6: Madara implants Rinnegan for 1 of 2 reasons:
a: To have sasuke control gedo mazo so Madara's plan can get back on track
b: to recreate the Doujutsu we see here:

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and take it for himself once it is created

So, there it is in a nutshell... Let me know what you think... and I apologize that it doesnt go into detail... but I don't feel like writing all of that again.

 

[Dragon Lord]

Alright, hello people... I just spent the past 45 minutes writing a theory on how I don't think Sasuke will have the EMS when he takes his bandages off... but when I went to submit the post, it brought up the login screen again... completely wasting all of my work... So, i'll just put it in a nutshell for all of you:

1: Madara loses Nagato
2: Gedo Mazo goes dormant without Nagato
3: Madara somehow gets ahold of Nagato's Rinnegan (or someone elses)
4: Madara makes Sasuke fight at Kage Summit, knowing he will abuse the Mangekyou Sharingan, subsequently going blind
5: Sasuke willingly accepts transplant under the impression that he is receiving Itachi's eyes
6: Madara implants Rinnegan for 1 of 2 reasons:
a: To have sasuke control gedo mazo so Madara's plan can get back on track
b: to recreate the Doujutsu we see here:

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and take it for himself once it is created

So, there it is in a nutshell... Let me know what you think... and I apologize that it doesnt go into detail... but I don't feel like writing all of that again.

Hello friend!

your theory would have made good sense!, but didnt sasuke already get EMS implanted in him?

he got itachis eyes implanted in him, and he was wearing bandages on his face if you remember!

btw, i like urahara! hes interesting, and so must be you! (^_^)

 

[Sade]

Alright, hello people... I just spent the past 45 minutes writing a theory on how I don't think Sasuke will have the EMS when he takes his bandages off... but when I went to submit the post, it brought up the login screen again... completely wasting all of my work... So, i'll just put it in a nutshell for all of you:

1: Madara loses Nagato
2: Gedo Mazo goes dormant without Nagato
3: Madara somehow gets ahold of Nagato's Rinnegan (or someone elses)
4: Madara makes Sasuke fight at Kage Summit, knowing he will abuse the Mangekyou Sharingan, subsequently going blind
5: Sasuke willingly accepts transplant under the impression that he is receiving Itachi's eyes
6: Madara implants Rinnegan for 1 of 2 reasons:
a: To have sasuke control gedo mazo so Madara's plan can get back on track
b: to recreate the Doujutsu we see here:

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and take it for himself once it is created

So, there it is in a nutshell... Let me know what you think... and I apologize that it doesnt go into detail... but I don't feel like writing all of that again.

like the thoery much man.....but i think that saske has already told to maara that he wants itachi eyes so i think that he has his EMS awkenend...maybe im wrong but i think its like this....anyway....i think if he wants to transplant the rinnegan it would be for that,to control gedou mazou and so he can seal all of th bijuus..

 

[Honord Sage]

How do you explain Sasuke saying I fell Itachi power flowing in me, words of that effects.Even with eyes cover the flow of power in Uchiha eyes would fell different from Pains eyes, The powers would be different and re learning of tech would take time. This not the mention of using re ejection drugs for some time with eyes of different DNA. I am not saying you could not do it but this are some of the troubles in transplanting Nagato eyes into Sasuke.

 

[Sade]

How do you explain Sasuke saying I fell Itachi power flowing in me, words of that effects.Even with eyes cover the flow of power in Uchiha eyes would fell different from Pains eyes, The powers would be different and re learning of tech would take time. This not the mention of using re ejection drugs for some time with eyes of different DNA. I am not saying you could not do it but this are some of the troubles in transplanting Nagato eyes into Sasuke.

yeah but it had happens a few times with other clans and chars...kakashi took the sharingan and didnt have to learn the techs again...one from the hidden cloud village took a byakugan..but this time happens the reverse...are u telling it because he has learnt a lot of techs with his sharingan???if yes,probably that happen...

 

[Honord Sage]

Kakashi is different only one eye, and He can turn it on and off by covering it, I am tacking two different Eye tech created by two different groups and the way they work is different from each other. I can see transplanting one of Pain's eyes and one of Itachi eyes so as to experiment with the possibility. Plus Why give Sasuke Pain's eyes and maybe all that power if your going to give Sasuke to Kabuto and have Sasuke have the power to stop them? Would not Madara want that power for Himself?

 

[Sade]

Kakashi is different only one eye, and He can turn it on and off by covering it, I am tacking two different Eye tech created by two different groups and the way they work is different from each other. I can see transplanting one of Pain's eyes and one of Itachi eyes so as to experiment with the possibility. Plus Why give Sasuke Pain's eyes and maybe all that power if your going to give Sasuke to Kabuto and have Sasuke have the power to stop them? Would not Madara want that power for Himself?

probably,yes...indeed...but maybe maara,in a way,knew that have risks so he didnt do it to himself...yeah prpbabpy its how u told,maybe...transplant the eyes to someone else and then controll his mind with his EMS

 

[whoami28]

While it would be an interesting twist for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan I think Madara has plans for Sasuke's EMS at some point. Also as Sasuke had used the Mangekyo already, him saying "I feel Itachi's power flowing into me!" seems to me to be a positive statement that Sasuke has gained more sharingan power, something only an Uchiha would recognize having experienced the feeling of the Mangekyo before.

 

[Sade]

i think h wants sasuke battle for him,o to be the vessel for his soul,like orochimaru wanted ir,maybe him to ink with gedo mazou so he can at last be the jinchuuriki of kyubi..

 

[kisamexRocks]

Hello friend!

your theory would have made good sense!, but didnt sasuke already get EMS implanted in him?

he got itachis eyes implanted in him, and he was wearing bandages on his face if you remember!

btw, i like urahara! hes interesting, and so must be you! (^_^)

Sasuke never had EMS until he went blind after fighting against Danzo. THEN he got Itachi's eyes transplant in him.

Good theory.

 

[FlashKID124]

what would be hilarious, is if madara told sasuke he was implanting itachi's eyes and he planted nagato's LOL

 

[Takeo]

Hello friend!

your theory would have made good sense!, but didnt sasuke already get EMS implanted in him?

he got itachis eyes implanted in him, and he was wearing bandages on his face if you remember!

btw, i like urahara! hes interesting, and so must be you! (^_^)

Hi there . You seem to have missed my point, I believe that Sasuke had the transplant done under the impression that he was receiving Itachi's Eyes. But Madara tricked him and inplanted the Rinnegan instead.

Urahara is awesome my favorite character in Bleach.

like the thoery much man.....but i think that saske has already told to maara that he wants itachi eyes so i think that he has his EMS awkenend...maybe im wrong but i think its like this....anyway....i think if he wants to transplant the rinnegan it would be for that,to control gedou mazou and so he can seal all of th bijuus..

Yes, he told Madara that he wanted Itachi's Eyes... Doesnt mean that Madara actually inplanted Itachi's eyes into Sasuke, though .

How do you explain Sasuke saying I fell Itachi power flowing in me, words of that effects.Even with eyes cover the flow of power in Uchiha eyes would fell different from Pains eyes, The powers would be different and re learning of tech would take time. This not the mention of using re ejection drugs for some time with eyes of different DNA. I am not saying you could not do it but this are some of the troubles in transplanting Nagato eyes into Sasuke.

Well, we don't know for sure whether or not you can actually tell the difference between eyes in the Narutoverse... I mean, Madara could have transplanted eyes from some random hobo into sasuke, and since Sasuke thought they were Itachi's eyes as he had requested, he made that comment "I feel itachi's power flowing through me." when he actually felt nothing... The phrase was used for more dramatic purposes more than anything else.

While it would be an interesting twist for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan I think Madara has plans for Sasuke's EMS at some point. Also as Sasuke had used the Mangekyo already, him saying "I feel Itachi's power flowing into me!" seems to me to be a positive statement that Sasuke has gained more sharingan power, something only an Uchiha would recognize having experienced the feeling of the Mangekyo before.

It is possible that Madara has plans for Sasuke's EMS, but I would think that he would rather have the origination of both the Sharingan and The Rinnegan (as pictured in the drawing of the Juubi), Having the powers of both, and perhaps some new ones on top of that.

what would be hilarious, is if madara told sasuke he was implanting itachi's eyes and he planted nagato's LOL

That was the whole point of my theory lol.

which brings me to a part of my original theory that got deleted before I could post it: I believe that Itachi intentionally abused his Sharingan in his match vs. Sasuke for the sole purpose of going blind. He accomplished this, and therefore I think his eyes are useless..

It is my understanding that the purpose of transplanting a mangekyou sharingan was to obtain "new light". Now, how can there be New Light if the eyes being transplanted are already blind? Sasuke Exchanging his own blind eyes for Itachi's blind eyes= new vision? doesnt make sense... 2 wrongs= right? I don't think so.

Plus, I don't think that Madara saying this:

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so shortly before transplanting "Itachi's" eyes into Sasuke is a coincidence..

 

[niblack89]

It would be cool for Sasuke to gain the rinnegan he would in dough have eye powers the same or even greater than Rikudō Sennin, that would actually put him on league with Naruto who has the kyuubi+sage mode and we hope some neat Uzuamaki sealing jutsu.

 

[Perkele311]

Its possible. But then you would have a very pissed Sasuke when he finds out he has a Rinnegan. Besides I would prefer to see the EMS.

As far as the transplanting eyes thing I think that even though Itachi was mostly blind but I don't think that will have a effect on the transplant to gain EMS. But who knows with Kishi it would be cool to have him get f-ed over for trusting madara with his eyes.

 

[-Tauburn-]

i tink ur theory is a good one but to me i cant see it happening sorry

 

[Takeo]

It would be cool for Sasuke to gain the rinnegan he would in dough have eye powers the same or even greater than Rikudō Sennin, that would actually put him on league with Naruto who has the kyuubi+sage mode and we hope some neat Uzuamaki sealing jutsu.

Exactly. Now that Naruto has control of the 9 tailed fox, Sasuke has to bring something huge to the game before he will stand a chance against Naruto. EMS in my opinion just wouldn't cut it. (all EMS is is a Mangekyou Sharingan that won't cause you to go blind... from what we've been told, there is no other benefit to it... no increased power and what not.) The doujutsu of the Juubi/Sot6P would suit this bill perfectly.

Its possible. But then you would have a very pissed Sasuke when he finds out he has a Rinnegan. Besides I would prefer to see the EMS.

As far as the transplanting eyes thing I think that even though Itachi was mostly blind but I don't think that will have a effect on the transplant to gain EMS. But who knows with Kishi it would be cool to have him get f-ed over for trusting madara with his eyes.

Well, think about it for a second, would you complain if you received something that was better than you had asked for? say you ask for a 19 inch widescreen computer monitor, and you recieve a 24 inch... would you complain? I think not .

That being said, I don't think Madara is doing it for Sasuke's sake. I believe that he is just using Sasuke as a vessel to create the doujutsu, being that he has the mangekyou sharingan, and Madara (in my opinion, be it from losing them during the fight with the first, or somewhere else along the line.) does not. Once Sasuke is healed and removes his bandages, there is a possibility that Madara will betray sasuke and take the doujutsu for himself. (or attempt to... Sasuke will escape... then possibly come back with naruto and f*** Madara up)

i tink ur theory is a good one but to me i cant see it happening sorry

For any particular reason? You gotta think outside the box man, anything is possible in the narutoverse.

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

I like it and it makes sense.but it's deffinitely a long shot.good job tho I think it's a splendid theory.and lol who wouldnt want to have juubis eyes I'm sorry but you can't have them sasuke you foolish little boy you wouldn't know what to do with these eyes

 

[whoami28]

Just to add to some speculation, but anyone wonder if the EMS allows the user to control all space/time? So far we have seen Madara shift himself and others in to other dimensions, what if he could also move backwards and forwards in time?

Made me wonder if Sasuke was the masked man that attacked Naruto when he was born, Kinda random but with a name like space/time jutsu I wonder where the direct influence on time comes in.

 

[Takeo]

Just to add to some speculation, but anyone wonder if the EMS allows the user to control all space/time? So far we have seen Madara shift himself and others in to other dimensions, what if he could also move backwards and forwards in time?

Made me wonder if Sasuke was the masked man that attacked Naruto when he was born, Kinda random but with a name like space/time jutsu I wonder where the direct influence on time comes in.

I believe that each Sharingan has their own unique powers. Such as Kakashi's sending anything he looks at into another dimension, and Itachi's eye techniques: Ameterasu, Susanoo, and Tsukiyomi. yes, I know that Sasuke has all of those techs as well, I believe what Madara said

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to be accurate, and that those three techniques are not sasuke's Sharingan's original techniques, just techniques that Itachi gave him...



It is a possiblity that each set of Sharingan has one technique per eye, and then Susanoo once you've learned to use both individual eye techniques. Such as in Itachi's case: Ameterasu was used from his right eye only, and Tsukiyomi from his left. Then once he learned to use those, he awakened Susanoo.

 

[whoami28]

I'm not sure I agree with each Mangekyo having unique techs. My understanding of the current techs we have seen is that Kakashi, a non-Uchiha sharingan user, created his own version of the mangekyo similar to Madara's, but different in that he can't control the dimension, only create a portal of sorts.

As for Ameterasu, Susanoo and Tsukiyomi I think those are standard Uchiha mangekyo sharingan jutsus that Itachi transferred to Sasuke because he had not unlocked his Mangekyo by killing his best friend (one could argue by kill Itachi he killed both a loving brother and friend at the same time. But I think Naruto was meant to be his best friend, and by not killing him at the Valley of the End he never awoke his Mangekyo).

As for Madara's space/time doujutsu, I think we have only seen the space part of it, by traveling through space at the speed of light, and when Sasuke receives his EMS (which I think will happen) I dislike the eyedea (lol) of the Rinnegan returning when we have learned so little about it from the original owners of it (IMO all we know is that the wielder can use any jutsu and decipher all of the Sot6P's tablet, perhaps that is all there is to it, but there must be more if Madara wants it).