SSJ4 is obviously stronger than SSJG

[Boston Rob]

I mean first we have to look how Goku achieved these 2 forms

SSJGod - basically its 5 SSJ1 sayans and Pan combined energy which unlocked SSJGod form. Goku and Vegeta at this point is weaker than they were at the beggining of GT(i mean it passed 10years, obviously they are stronger in GT).Not to mention still kids Trunks, Goten and Gohan who didnt trained after Buu saga.

SSJ4 - Lets be honest Golden oozaru is stronger than all 5 ssj1 & unborn pan. Which makes me to believe SSJ4 form was awakened from greater power than SSJGod was. Goku as well was saying that SSJGod power is impossible to achieve just by training so SSJ4 is obviously not training result. Goku had no chance against Baby with his trained SSJ3 form. Its a fact that SSJ4 is similar to SSJGod.

I know GT is not canon but im not talking about this now. Just want to compare SSJ4 to SSJGod.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

GT is cannon period.

 

[Ansatsuken]

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Are you serious???

 

[khaoz]

??????????? really dude

 

[Boston Rob]

Yes im.

 

[Jokule67]

Its the number of saiyans thats important. Not how much power they have. They used Pans unborn baby.

 

[EZQ]

Lol.

SSG stomps ss4. Badly.

 

[Boston Rob]

Its the number of saiyans thats important. Not how much power they have. They used Pans unborn baby.

They used the same technique to power up SSJ4 or rather just recuperate his lost power. Adults Trunks Goten and Gohan AND kid Pan not a baby, did it.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

When you still think GT is cannon after Super

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[Boston Rob]

Lol.

SSG stomps ss4. Badly.

Lol no.

 

[Boston Rob]

When you still think GT is cannon after Super

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Idiot im not talking about canon here, comparing power of two forms. Lazy tard read befere saying anything.

 

[EZQ]

Lol no.

Lmao. So are you gonna argue this? Okay.

SS3 is oficially weaker than a 1% beerus, by a pretty long gap. SS2 enraged vegeta is as strong as 1% beerus, and ssgod is as strong as beerus. So, we know ss god is more than 100 times stronger than ss3.

A clash between SSgod and Beerus was pulverizing planets with just the clash of their fists.

If you are going to argue this, then i'll just add you to my personal retarded kids lists. Lmao.

 

[Devauzamaki]

Lmao. So are you gonna argue this? Okay.

SS3 is oficially weaker than a 1% beerus, by a pretty long gap. SS2 enraged vegeta is as strong as 1% beerus, and ssgod is as strong as beerus. So, we know ss god is more than 100 times stronger than ss3.

A clash between SSgod and Beerus was pulverizing planets with just the clash of their fists.

If you are going to argue this, then i'll just add you to my personal retarded kids lists. Lmao.

Your actually off by a long shot. we can see all of ssg goku's move's casually. No one could even see SSj gogeta attack yet alone ssj4 gogeta.


SSj4 is on a whole nother level from ssj3

 

[Boston Rob]

Lmao. So are you gonna argue this? Okay.

SS3 is oficially weaker than a 1% beerus, by a pretty long gap. SS2 enraged vegeta is as strong as 1% beerus, and ssgod is as strong as beerus. So, we know ss god is more than 100 times stronger than ss3.

A clash between SSgod and Beerus was pulverizing planets with just the clash of their fists.

If you are going to argue this, then i'll just add you to my personal retarded kids lists. Lmao.

Base GT Goku >= Buu saga SSJ3.
Base goku was fighting against uub(hes kid buu reincarnation, should be atleast at that level after 10years of training)

SSJ1 x50 base
SSJ2 x100 base
SSj3 x300 base
SSJ4 <1000 base

 

[EZQ]

Base GT Goku >= Buu saga SSJ3.
Base goku was fighting against uub(hes kid buu reincarnation, should be atleast at that level after 10years of training)

:l

Uub is not as strong as buu. Not even close. Lmao dude. Base GT Goku was getting his ass kicked by super 17 while ss2 vegeta did better. This ****ing shit makes no sense.

SSJ1 x50 base
SSJ2 x100 base
SSj3 x300 base
SSJ4 <1000 base

Feats > Useless math assumtions, since the only time Toriyama said something about numbers was when he reffered to beerus only using 0.1 of his power against Vegeta.

Counter the fact that Goku and beerus were pulverizing planets with just clashing fists or gtfo.

Your actually off by a long shot. we can see all of ssg goku's move's casually. No one could even see SSj gogeta attack yet alone ssj4 gogeta.


SSj4 is on a whole nother level from ssj3

What kind of retard bullshit is this? We can see what the animators wants us to see. And ssj gogeta >>>>>>> ssj goku. So don't bring that up. Since we would have to consider SSG gogeta vs ss4 gogeta.

 

[Osmon]

Both GT and Super suck so why bother watching any of them ?

 

[Boston Rob]

:l

Uub is not as strong as buu. Not even close. Lmao dude. Base GT Goku was getting his ass kicked by super 17 while ss2 vegeta did better. This ****ing shit makes no sense.

Lmfao, really? GT is 10years after DBZ, so you really think Goku whos already fought Buu as equal at DBZ didnt surpassed Buu yet? Uub and base goku was fighting equaly plus goku said uubs training is complete, hes atleast = kid buu at this point.

Base goku never fought against Super 17. It was SSJ1 or SSJ2. How vegeta was doing better?, he got his ass kicked even goten trunks uub and gohan helping him. Super 17 took Vegetas final flash like nothing. Plus he never tryed to absorb Vegetas attacks like he did with SSJ2 goku. Goku alone was able to fight Super 17, when vegeta was nearly killed if not goku saving him.

SSJgod is not equal to beerus, he only used 66% of his power it was stated in series. First form frieza can destroy planets so....

 

[Boston Rob]

Both GT and Super suck so why bother watching any of them ?

I rewatched GT after shit first episodes of Super. It was kinda exciting and funny. Dunno why people hate GT so much.

 

[EZQ]

Both GT and Super suck so why bother watching any of them ?

Super is pretty good actually. It's having great reviews and the only complaints are about the animation, while GT is just a bunch of rabbit shit.

Lmao this guy boston rob and his assumtions, dodging myq uestions.. "GT is 10 years before thus GT > Super"

Not even bothering with this punk anymore

 

[EZQ]

:l

Uub is not as strong as buu. Not even close. Lmao dude. Base GT Goku was getting his ass kicked by super 17 while ss2 vegeta did better. This ****ing shit makes no sense.

Lmfao, really? GT is 10years after DBZ, so you really think Goku whos already fought Buu as equal at DBZ didnt surpassed Buu yet? Uub and base goku was fighting equaly plus goku said uubs training is complete, hes atleast = kid buu at this point.

Base goku never fought against Super 17. It was SSJ1 or SSJ2. How vegeta was doing better?, he got his ass kicked even goten trunks uub and gohan helping him. Super 17 took Vegetas final flash like nothing. Plus he never tryed to absorb Vegetas attacks like he did with SSJ2 goku. Goku alone was able to fight Super 17, when vegeta was nearly killed if not goku saving him.

Assumtions. Watch the fight again, base goku did fight.

SSJgod is not equal to beerus, he only used 66% of his power

This was just in the movie you stupid retard. In the series beerus went all out

it was stated in series. First form frieza can destroy planets so....

Lol i'm ending this stupid shit here. It's different to destroy a planet with your biggest ki ball than DESTROYING A LOT OF PLANETS THAT ARE REALLY FAR AWAY WITH JUST THE STRENGHT OF CLASHING FISTS.

But as expected, you're just replying shit to me. Don't even bother to keep it up. You're just butthurt that GT is not considered canon, and super is actually having more succes.

Gtfo kid