SSJ4 is obviously stronger than SSJG

[Jokule67]

They used the same technique to power up SSJ4 or rather just recuperate his lost power. Adults Trunks Goten and Gohan AND kid Pan not a baby, did it.

But thats GT and it was for a duff purpose. This needed a certain number of pure hearted good saiyans to trigger a transformation in one of them. A whole different concept.

 

[Zerox553]

SSJG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for 5 mins>>>>>>SSJ4.

Beerus and Goku were going to destroy the entire universe as a result of the clashes of their fists, show me one instance of GT Goku doing that, fact of the matter is you can't. Before you even start, and I know it'll come if anyone replies, the Dragon Ball Universe does not comprise of 4 Galaxies, and even if it did, assuming Goku and Beerus were exerting the same amount of force, then Goku would still be Multi Galaxy, which is >Multi Solar System/Single Galaxy level.

 

[pakitoT3L3K]

Lmao. So are you gonna argue this? Okay.

SS3 is oficially weaker than a 1% beerus, by a pretty long gap. SS2 enraged vegeta is as strong as 1% beerus, and ssgod is as strong as beerus. So, we know ss god is more than 100 times stronger than ss3.

A clash between SSgod and Beerus was pulverizing planets with just the clash of their fists.

If you are going to argue this, then i'll just add you to my personal retarded kids lists. Lmao.

Ssjg goku was 70 % berus so there for everything you stated just got negged. To shed actual truth on anything about ssj4, is to say it is miles above ssj3 that being said ssjg and is probably just a tad bit over ssj4 maybe. Not sure but what I am sure of is according to DBM a regular ssj2 vegeta destroyed a golden ozaru kakkarrot. So :/ ssi4 while not cannon isn't that far ahead of ssg. Js all hail lord vegeto

 

[Boston Rob]

Assumtions. Watch the fight again, base goku did fight.
This was just in the movie you stupid retard. In the series beerus went all out



Lol i'm ending this stupid shit here. It's different to destroy a planet with your biggest ki ball than DESTROYING A LOT OF PLANETS THAT ARE REALLY FAR AWAY WITH JUST THE STRENGHT OF CLASHING FISTS.

But as expected, you're just replying shit to me. Don't even bother to keep it up. You're just butthurt that GT is not considered canon, and super is actually having more succes.

Gtfo kid

Lol you simply didnt counter anything so bye.... ssjgod being stronger than ssj4 is asumtions as well....

 

[Dark Sonic]

No they do not. SSG isn't the combination of 5 Super Saiyans and an unborn child. SSJ4 is just a ki multiplier like anything else. SSG is a whole different level since it's the power equivalent to a God.

 

[Son Wukong]

Lmao what? SSB literally one shots SSJ 4 Goku.

 

[Meowazziel]

I mean first we have to look how Goku achieved these 2 forms

SSJGod - basically its 5 SSJ1 sayans and Pan combined energy which unlocked SSJGod form. Goku and Vegeta at this point is weaker than they were at the beggining of GT(i mean it passed 10years, obviously they are stronger in GT).Not to mention still kids Trunks, Goten and Gohan who didnt trained after Buu saga.

SSJ4 - Lets be honest Golden oozaru is stronger than all 5 ssj1 & unborn pan. Which makes me to believe SSJ4 form was awakened from greater power than SSJGod was. Goku as well was saying that SSJGod power is impossible to achieve just by training so SSJ4 is obviously not training result. Goku had no chance against Baby with his trained SSJ3 form. Its a fact that SSJ4 is similar to SSJGod.

I know GT is not canon but im not talking about this now. Just want to compare SSJ4 to SSJGod.

SSJGGod is NOT 5x SSJ1.

SSJGod is 5x pure hearted saiyans+ a 6th purehearted, saiyan who will become the SSJGod (purehearted and amount of saiyans is importand).
Besides Pan in Videl's belly wasnt even SSJ yet, so it wouldnt be 5x SSJ1 regardless.

SSJGod power is achievable through training, as that is how Vegeta got it.

SSJ4 is not achievable the first time by training alone. You need to unlock it by becoming a Golden Oozaru (requires SSJ transformation + tail + looking at full planetary body/moon) and gaining consciousness of the form to become SSJ4 (and to be able to access it yourself afterwards) or with bloodwaves to mimic the effect.