How are people this ignorant

[ObitoTheSage]

Sasuke was granted insane training from Orochimaru which put him light years ahead of Naruto so that's unfair.
Two, Sasuke was given Itachi's eyes for free.
Three, Sasuke was given the Rinnegan for free.


It doesn't matter if Naruto uses outside power. This is a manga about ninjas and you guys are more worried about who kills each other more professionally.

"sasuke was GIVEN training".... are kidding me rn? He worked hard to train, when ur trained u work hard, not to mention naruto's "free" training. lamo you've clearly never been in a sport if you think you are given things after you worked hard

 

[The Necromancer]

I love when Naruto fans try to justify a living entity with eons of knowledge, first hand experience with actual God, a near limitless chakra supply, the ability to see and analyze things his host can not, and healing powers that rival Hashirama's and Byakugou... because Sasuke has a glorified pair of glasses, that may or may not have given Sasuke a single ability that consumes chakra rather than supplying it.

 

[DominiqueX]

1. He defeated Tendo on his own... Did you forget his KB trick ?

Only after Kurama did all the work of breaking Naruto free and weakening Tendo, just before Minato renewed the seal to lock up Kurama again. So it does not count. Take away any help that Naruto had and he would be dead before CT is even needed.

2. Pain had intel on Naruto too plus he had time to create plan how to capture Naruto

What relevant intel did Pain have? He only knew that Naruto is a jinchuuriki. He didn't know anything about his techniques, for example senjutsu and rasenshuriken.

 

[ComplexCity]

I love when Naruto fans try to justify a living entity with eons of knowledge, first hand experience with actual God, a near limitless chakra supply, the ability to see and analyze things his host can not, and healing powers that rival Hashirama's and Byakugou... to a glorified pair of glasses, that may or may not have given Sasuke a single ability that consumes chakra rather than supplying it.

With a pair of glasses that can subjugate a living entity with eons of knowledge that has a near limitless supply of chakra and had a first hand experience with a God to the users whim?

The answer is simple, they are both birthrights that have their advantages and disadvantages

 

[The Necromancer]

With a pair of glasses that can subjugate a living entity with eons of knowledge that has a near limitless supply of chakra and had a first hand experience with a God to the users whim?

The answer is simple, they are both birthrights that have their advantages and disadvantages

Really? Because Sasuke became featless in that regard after EMS was awakened.

So are you saying Sasuke was nerfed of his main advantage, one of the only 2 abilities his upgrade gave him, while Naruto retains all of his?

 

[ComplexCity]

Really? Because Sasuke became featless in that regard after EMS was awakened.

So are you saying Sasuke was nerfed of his main advantage?

Could have sworn he subjugated 9 tailed beast at one time, but that's none of my business. Rinnegan aside, he has the feat and nothing will suggest otherwise


Stop putting words in my mouth I said they both had their advantages and disadvantages

 

[The Necromancer]

Could have sworn he subjugated 9 tailed beast at one time, but that's none of my business. Rinnegan aside, he has the feat and nothing will suggest otherwise


Stop putting words in my mouth I said they both had their advantages and disadvantages

Coulda sworn that was still borrowed power, (whereas Naruto gets it and more, for free) and he was never shown suppressing any of Naruto's powers in the last 400+ chapters.

Not to mention that the chakra of 9 Bijuu wasn't enough to overtake Naruto's Kurama + Senjutsu. So once again, (and I really need to actually make this thread) Sasuke got the shit end of the stick in the upgrades department, but was still able to tie in the fight.

But to each his own.

 

[The Work]

Forreal fam, the denial is real with Maddy fanboys about him getting one-shotted.

 

[ComplexCity]

Coulda sworn that was still borrowed power, and he was never shown suppressing any of Naruto's powers in the last 400+ chapters.

Sigh do you read, like ever?

Could have sworn he subjugated 9 tailed beast at one time, but that's none of my business. Rinnegan aside, he has the feat and nothing will suggest otherwise

By your logic, Madara is featless in the same regard since he never displayed it during the war arc when he's already subjugated Kurama previously

Not to mention that the chakra of 9 Bijuu wasn't enough to overtake Naruto's Kurama + Senjutsu. So once again, (and I really need to actually make this thread) Sasuke got the shit end of the stick in the upgrades department, but was still able to tie in the fight.

But to each his own.

You are such a Sasuke fapboy it shows in just about every post you make on here. I'd would swiftly put you in the same tier as Dantee and Shelke

I'm not about to list the benefits of the upgrades received by the two but everyone knows that Sasuke's outweigh's Naruto's heavily on paper

 

[SeveN797]

MS Sasuke, Pain > SM Naruto. Without Kurama, and with SM time limit, he would became fodder who only spams shadow clones and rasengan

Spoiler

wait... he already does that XD

 

[ComplexCity]

MS Sasuke, Pain > SM Naruto. Without Kurama, and with SM time limit, he would became fodder who only spams shadow clones and rasengan

Spoiler

wait... he already does that XD

And without Itachi's borrowed eyes Sasuke would be using his sword as a walking cane :|

 

[Jiren]

I disagree. SM user at his peak is above MS user at his peak.

Sikkkkkeeeeeee

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Without Itachi's eyes Sasuke would be blind.

 

[SeveN797]

And without Itachi's borrowed eyes Sasuke would be using his sword as a walking cane :|

Without Itachi's borrowed eyes, with just 3 tomoe he was still pretty strong as Hebi Sasuke. Besides that, it's not like he had any choice. Itachi manipulated him and set up everything, fight with his younger brother, death from his hand and he knew Sasuke would take his eyes to get new light. Sasuke was just following the path which Itachi prepared for him from the start. In the end, he earned his new power in deadly battle with his older brother.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Without Itachi's borrowed eyes, with just 3 tomoe he was still pretty strong as Hebi Sasuke. Besides that, it's not like he had any choice. Itachi manipulated him and set up everything, fight with his younger brother, death from his hand and he knew Sasuke would take his eyes to get new light. Sasuke was just following the path which Itachi prepared for him from the start. In the end, he earned his new power in deadly battle with his older brother.

No after the battle he was in no condition to take Itachi's eyes, Obito just took mercy on the poor fellow and gave him Itachi's eyes as he was almost blind.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Some Naruto fans like to compare Naruto's powerups to Sasuke's powerups.

Kurama a living entity with knowledge cannot be compared to some eyes. First of all do eyes posess verbal communication?

Thing with Naruto is after a certain point in time he would need to master the 9 Tails chakra to match his EMS.

But yeah that logic is broken and Kurama helps him out a lot.

 

[ComplexCity]

Without Itachi's borrowed eyes, with just 3 tomoe he was still pretty strong as Hebi Sasuke. Besides that, it's not like he had any choice. Itachi manipulated him and set up everything, fight with his younger brother, death from his hand and he knew Sasuke would take his eyes to get new light. Sasuke was just following the path which Itachi prepared for him from the start. In the end, he earned his new power in deadly battle with his older brother.

Literally had a debate with another fapboy about this and destroyed that argument, not finna do that again.


Sasuke would have been blind so this post is invalid

 

[Nick01]

Naruto would still be superior if he didn't have Kurama to begin with.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Naruto would still be superior if he didn't have Kurama to begin with.

And Sasuke blind without Itachi's eyes.

 

[Retsu]

I understand that Kishi said Sasuke & Naruto are equal, I don't deny that. Some may even Say Naruto is better, which doesn't even bother me -- opinions are opinions.

However… :|

I never understood how people try to justify Naruto having a full conscious lifeform to help him to equate to Sasuke's eyes. Not bashing Nardo for having Kurama, just saying it isn't genetic.

Sasuke's eyes were genetic -- able to awaken on one's own from birth, The Bijuus are just trapped within someone(with a strong enough body), not an ability available from birth. Yes you can train, and go through hell to work with them, but again its not something that's automatically granted to you from birth.

Both have gifted genes(Sharingan / Large Chakra reserves), however Kurama is not a ****ing gene.

NB has absolute shit logic.

get real, him taking his brothers eyes to compete have nothing to do with genetics