When did you begin to hate Sasuke?

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Regarding the person that has spoke of losing a brother, yes I have lost my younger brother a few years back. He was 21 at the time and was strangled to death. So don't lecture.


FYI, I've never been a Sasuke fanboi (as you put it). Still am not a Sasuke fanboi in anyway or form, I'd perhaps lean more towards Shikamaru, Kakashi, Itachi, Lee, Naruto, Orichimaru, pain, even SAKURA before Sasuke.
The difference between me and you (other then the obvious point of views) is that I try to look at things in different perspective (maybe because I could be a lot older then you? who knows).

Answer me this, If I come over to your house, punch your mother until she goes unconcious, then cripple your dad to the extend that he can't work anymore. Would you forgive and forget a few years later without me needing to come to justice or even ask for forgiveness or apologize?.

If you did that to me, I wont.
Sorry bout your brother :(
I also put Sakura higher than Sasuke in my character favs X3
For that lat Q of your, i may forgive, depending on situations and reasons ect. but i would never forget....
 

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Answer me this, If I come over to your house, punch your mother until she goes unconcious, then cripple your dad to the extend that he can't work anymore. Would you forgive and forget a few years later without me needing to come to justice or even ask for forgiveness or apologize?.

If you did that to me, I wont.
:) you have no idea who you're talking to.

Problem is kicking the crap out of you in no way helps me in the future. Never the less a few years later i would expect someone to be able to relativate things more. Forgivenes is not required ... nor is killing you required. Those are not the same things. I can perfectly not forgive you and not want to kill you.

And i'm sorry to inform you your example does not imply with this. You give an example of me and you.

Give you this one. If I come over to your house, punch your mother until she goes unconcious, then cripple your dad to the extend that he can't work anymore. Would you go out and blame everyone and everything for it wether or not they had anything to do with it?

That is what is going on here and thats what ppl are pissed off about.

I'm 24, don't get cocky over age. Cause i will bury you in discution boy ... xd You're dealing with an autist.
 
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I began to hate Sasuke in the first few episodes of non-shippuden, due to his behaviour towards Naruto, he always looked down on him and thought he was better, that he could do everything but that Naruto could do nothing. I also hate the fact that he blames everyone and everything in Konoha for the uchiha massacre.s
 
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I began to hate Sasuke in the first few episodes of non-shippuden, due to his behaviour towards Naruto, he always looked down on him and thought he was better, that he could do everything but that Naruto could do nothing. I also hate the fact that he blames everyone and everything in Konoha for the uchiha massacre.s
he always looked down to him...he always thought that he was better than him,but he never was....sasuke really is a stupid-selfish and irrogant mammas boy....
 

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:) you have no idea who you're talking to.

Problem is kicking the crap out of you in no way helps me in the future. Never the less a few years later i would expect someone to be able to relativate things more. Forgivenes is not required ... nor is killing you required. Those are not the same things. I can perfectly not forgive you and not want to kill you.
This example was just to get the "I wont forgive/forget out of you", adding the "I want to kill you" wasn't my intention at all if that's what you were hoping for. You basicaly answered the way I wanted you to.

And i'm sorry to inform you your example does not imply with this. You give an example of me and you.
The reason why I gave an example of you and I is to help see things in another perspective, obviously talking about clans (which you probably aren't and shouldn't be linked to one at this day of age) wouldn't effect you and it wont hold any kind of value.
My example was a mere drop of water in a lake to the situation Kishi was creating for Sasuke.
Perhaps he wanted his fans to split up of opinions, and not for the sake of being either a fan of Naruto or Sasuke, but just the Idea of either being a part of those who would say "I don't like what Sasuke is doing, but I would be doing the exact samething in his shoes" to those who would say "Sasuke is a cry baby and shouldn't blame everyone for something that a few people have done"

Give you this one. If I come over to your house, punch your mother until she goes unconcious, then cripple your dad to the extend that he can't work anymore. Would you go out and blame everyone and everything for it wether or not they had anything to do with it?
That is what is going on here and thats what ppl are pissed off about.
Like I pointed out before, this example was ONLY to get you to say "I would hate you, or not forgive you unless something is done".
And has no effect or does not reflect of what happened to Sasuke to see why I can understand the way he thinks.

I'm 24, don't get cocky over age. Cause i will bury you in discution boy ... xd You're dealing with an autist.
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My age comment was not reflecting what you said, that's why I quoted someone else, then added "to the person who...". So the part addressing you was what's below that and not above it ;)
either way, it's good to see someone older then I'd expect here, never the less still clearly younger then I am but old enough to hopefully have more common sense. I'd also like to add that it took me a short while trying to figure out what "discution" meant, my guess is you meant "discussion" (English not being your main language makes that fine) :)
But I'm not too sure why you were proud in admitting you're an autist after telling me you will bury me in discussion?
So you're basicaly telling me that your narrow minded and can only see things in your point of view whether right or wrong, so you'll bury me in discussion", unless I'm cold blooded and can't catch a joke quick enough :eek:

Back to the point.

Sasuke was made to live a life as an Orphan after watching his family and his kind (The Uchiha) die infront of him as a child, which will leave a pretty nasty scar.
Growing up depressed due to the constant play backs of what happened, and for it to all happen by the hands of his flesh and blood. Feeling like no one else understood him.
Naruto never knew his family, and thought Sasuke understood him, while Sasuke was in a completely different situation then Naruto realizing Naruto really didn't understand him. While everyone else around him smiled while he couldn't also got to him (but not to the extend to hate them, just enough to annoy him).
Just like any celeb, everyone knew that the Uchiha were the most gifted in Konaha, and Sasuke was the LAST Uchiha. So if you watched the early episodes, everyone kissed his ass without him asking them to. Naturally that would reflect on the way he looked at them (the one people at his early time he didn't look down to the same way he looked down to the others were the Sensais, Niju and Gaara, as he was able to see there was something special about the other 2, while a Sensai like Kakashi was far more experienced then he was and was able to train him until he got older).
He witnessed Naruto who was a nobody go off and get some training off one of the great sannins while he sits in Konaha not getting anymore training while Naruto gets stronger. So to reach his goal (avenge his family and kind) he seeked better training which was off of Orichimaru.

After eventually getting his revenge (which he thought would make him feel better, and it didn't) Tobi/Madara played his ace under his sleeve by telling him the truth of everything (which you can watch for yourself 100 times).
Which basicaly made him realize the whole life he lived of revenge was meanigless and he killed the one last link to him, and the closest person to him who happens to be innocent and just a victim of Konaha's leaders.

Now you may sit here and tell me "Just because the leaders of Konaha are bad, that doesn't mean that everyone should get hurt".
Sadly that's never the case with anyone and we have perfect examples IRL.
Although I would like to avoid politics in a Manga/anime discussion, but to help you understand how ppl think. Think about Iraq, Palistine, Israel, North Korea, Afghnistan, USA.......list goes on, but it's a common thing for a conflict, and the conflict starts off with just hating their leaders and those with control and ultimatly starts spreading to the innocent as well.

Sasuke's goals were simple, to destroy Konaha and what it stood for, it made him sick. He knows by destroying the only 2 remaining ppl that have plotted his clans death wouldn't be enough for him. A normal reaction for someone that has been scarred so much.

I'd also like to add that, the Konaha elders and Madara played him enough to turn him into this psycho path. As if it was intentional.
 

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But I'm not too sure why you were proud in admitting you're an autist after telling me you will bury me in discussion?
So you're basicaly telling me that your narrow minded and can only see things in your point of view whether right or wrong, so you'll bury me in discussion", unless I'm cold blooded and can't catch a joke quick enough :eek:
Yeah well you say i have a narrow view while you make judgements on something you clearly don't know much about. Wich ... doesn't make you any better. Or don't you agree?


I'm not good at some things, but i'm very good in others. I pick up anomalies pretty fast. Hence i'm good at braking points. But honestly not making points.

Back to the point.

Sasuke was made to live a life as an Orphan after watching his family and his kind (The Uchiha) die infront of him as a child, which will leave a pretty nasty scar.
Growing up depressed due to the constant play backs of what happened, and for it to all happen by the hands of his flesh and blood. Feeling like no one else understood him.
Naruto never knew his family, and thought Sasuke understood him, while Sasuke was in a completely different situation then Naruto realizing Naruto really didn't understand him. While everyone else around him smiled while he couldn't also got to him (but not to the extend to hate them, just enough to annoy him).
Just like any celeb, everyone knew that the Uchiha were the most gifted in Konaha, and Sasuke was the LAST Uchiha. So if you watched the early episodes, everyone kissed his ass without him asking them to. Naturally that would reflect on the way he looked at them (the one people at his early time he didn't look down to the same way he looked down to the others were the Sensais, Niju and Gaara, as he was able to see there was something special about the other 2, while a Sensai like Kakashi was far more experienced then he was and was able to train him until he got older).
He witnessed Naruto who was a nobody go off and get some training off one of the great sannins while he sits in Konaha not getting anymore training while Naruto gets stronger. So to reach his goal (avenge his family and kind) he seeked better training which was off of Orichimaru.

After eventually getting his revenge (which he thought would make him feel better, and it didn't) Tobi/Madara played his ace under his sleeve by telling him the truth of everything (which you can watch for yourself 100 times).
Which basicaly made him realize the whole life he lived of revenge was meanigless and he killed the one last link to him, and the closest person to him who happens to be innocent and just a victim of Konaha's leaders.

Now you may sit here and tell me "Just because the leaders of Konaha are bad, that doesn't mean that everyone should get hurt".
Sadly that's never the case with anyone and we have perfect examples IRL.
Although I would like to avoid politics in a Manga/anime discussion, but to help you understand how ppl think. Think about Iraq, Palistine, Israel, North Korea, Afghnistan, USA.......list goes on, but it's a common thing for a conflict, and the conflict starts off with just hating their leaders and those with control and ultimatly starts spreading to the innocent as well.

Sasuke's goals were simple, to destroy Konaha and what it stood for, it made him sick. He knows by destroying the only 2 remaining ppl that have plotted his clans death wouldn't be enough for him. A normal reaction for someone that has been scarred so much.

I'd also like to add that, the Konaha elders and Madara played him enough to turn him into this psycho path. As if it was intentional.
We all know why he went psycho :p. But I fail to accept this as an excuse.

It's like, oh someone stole my bike i'll just steal someone else'. But ofcourse on a much bigger level. You accuse someone of something while you're being guilty of it yourself. Just like the above in this post.

PS: I'm sorry for the previous rather aggressive post, you kinda pissed me of with the age thing. As if age determines someone's value of there opinion.
 
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when he killed itachi and started acting like a fukkin idiot talkin about how he's gonna restore his clan and make the hidden leaf pay for what they did to itachi even though he's the dumb-ass who killed itachi....and for his clan..they got screwed on their own..
He never killed Itachi. He died on his own because of a illness he had he was only prolonging his life just to see sasuke to make sasuke awaken his own MS and die there not getting KILLED but dying because of the illness.
 

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he died and because of his illness,and because he had used too much his MS but also because of some of his previous battles injuries...in the fight with sasuke he was absolutely mess...he died because in the fight he overused the MS...
 

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I hated Sasuke when he became so one dimensional... At least in the beginning, he was a little bit interesting as a character, specifically in the Haku battle. But then he just became obsessed with revenge, and ever since that's ALL there is to him as a character.

Pretty boring.
 

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He never killed Itachi. He died on his own because of a illness he had he was only prolonging his life just to see sasuke to make sasuke awaken his own MS and die there not getting KILLED but dying because of the illness.
Well, Sasuke pushed Itachi passed his limit, GETTING him killed. Sasuke beat him and attacked him, so even if sasuke wasnt the exact reason Itachi is dead, i'd still hate him.
Also, now that i think about it, how could Itachi like Sasuke? i mean, Sasuke wants him dead, he even probably had the idea Sasuke was going to turn his back on Konoha. If i was Itachi, i would forget Sasuke and my damned clan, and live the way i want. :p
 

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I started hating Sasuke a little bit in the Final Valley fight because of how he treated Naruto. Then in the episode of Shippuden where Team Sai saw Sasuke in Orochimaru's lair, my hatred for him increased because of how rude he acted to Naruto, who traveled all the way there just to get Sasuke to come back to the Leaf. After he made Deidara blow himself up, Sasuke crossed my hatred line because Deidara was one of my favorite characters.
 
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