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That sasuke lost the fight at vote2 because his rinnegan was new didn't naruto get his powerup at the same time , db say he can use all the jins abilities and we never seen him do it only when mixing it with rasengan , the six tail can wrap you in a poison cloak and four a lava db even say he can use shukaku sand , would be hard to believe seeing he never did any but used boil release on kaguya when she had him stuck in the tree , he heated his body up to the point he was steaming mean he can use the same abilities we seen the other jin do but was still new with there abilities and didn't know what they or he could really do.
 

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Exactly. How the hell would Naruto master all the new powers he gained in one day? Also he didn't even know how to fly until later. He probably didn't realize how much his rsm mode boosted his strength, speed, and chakra until after all the fighting.
 

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If you read the manga you can see Naruto was getting force fed his powers by just asking for help. Secondly this is pure bait
 

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Sasuke had to figure out how to use the Rinnengan himself, while for Naruto the Bijuu did the job to use their skills for him. Naruto just had to ask for the Bijuu for help and that is it.
 

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If you read the manga you can see Naruto was getting force fed his powers by just asking for help. Secondly this is pure bait

Do i say the thing you post bait? Its a question because that what i been reading a lot around the base lately .. He still didnt use all their powers , pein couldn't even touch six tail with poison cloak so why not tell him about it he they were giving all the answers? I only seen them help when he asked
 

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Sasuke had to figure out how to use the Rinnengan himself, while for Naruto the Bijuu did the job to use their skills for him. Naruto just had to ask for the Bijuu for help and that is it.

Still the fact is his powers was new to just like sasuke's, he didn't know everything he could do but people act like he did
 

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Sasuke had to figure out how to use the Rinnengan himself, while for Naruto the Bijuu did the job to use their skills for him. Naruto just had to ask for the Bijuu for help and that is it.

naruto did not know what the tailed beast's powers were...he only asked 1 for help (son goku) and the others presented themselves at the appropriate time...so no naruto did not have full control over his SPSM abilities...ps how can the tailed beasts do naruto's job for him if naruto is the 1 using their powers?...that makes no sense
 

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Still the fact is his powers was new to just like sasuke's, he didn't know everything he could do but people act like he did

What exactly does Naruto need to learn about the Bijuu abilities? The Bijuu does everything, while Naruto needs to do nothing but ask. The Bijuu knows what their abilities does so what there to learn for Naruto?

Sasuke has to figure out everything about the Rinnengan himself and there is no other Rinnengan user to show what techniques it can develop.
 

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Lol how soon people forget Naruto has COAT.. Lol
 

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What exactly does Naruto need to learn about the Bijuu abilities? The Bijuu does everything, while Naruto needs to do nothing but ask. The Bijuu knows what their abilities does so what there to learn for Naruto?

Sasuke has to figure out everything about the Rinnengan himself and there is no other Rinnengan user to show what techniques it can develop.

So you saying he was nerfed then since we only seen him use boil release but we know he can all jin abilities, if he got their powers why not use them if he can and i am not just talking about in rasengans because they can do a lot my i seen them fight
 

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So you saying he was nerfed then since we only seen him use boil release but we know he can all jin abilities, if he got their powers why not use them if he can and i am not just talking about in rasengans because they can do a lot my i seen them fight

I can't remember all the Bijuus abilities to be honest so I can't say how good they are. I guess we can call it a nerf since Naruto could of infused the Bijuu KKG into Gudodama or Bijuu dama instead of a simple RasenShuriken.
 

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They are just so salty that their fav lost to Naruto that they've been left with no choice but to make excuses. Let's be real, Sasuke whether he mastered the Rinnegan or not is no match for Naruto. :coffee:
 
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I won't lie; it's true both of them are sitting with unmastered power-ups. Sasuke however is missing 4 very special paths that definitely would have made a difference in the fight. The ability to repel any technique no matter the size/nature/mass/power is quite an enormous advantage. Being able to absorb that final rasengan would have won him the match for sure. Being able to summon limbs/armor, animals that apparently don't die (good for distractions), and quite possibly the most important of all, ripping out a soul for instant death are huge advantages whether anyone likes it or not.

I'm unclear on how TSBs work against Sasuke, but for now I assume they would erase his ninjutsu so I think Naruto could have used that much better to nullify Sasuke's techniques. Now DB states this about Naruto's form:

it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

This is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master.

This shows Naruto should have been able to understand those natures quickly and even so, he didn't need to because the bijuu did it for him. I can't post scans because the last time I tried that, my post didn't go through and had to be approved by mods (I'm new so I don't know how to do it right). Moving on, the DB also says:

the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate"

He definitely mastered flight. I think what Naruto needs to work on is his TSB manipulation for defense. His Six Paths form also functions the same way as his previous chakra shroud forms so there's not much to learn there.

Sasuke on the other hand works with a new eye with techniques Nagato took years to learn how to use. In fact, he was so behind on his rinnegan mastery that he only used 3 out of 7 paths and later discovered a whole new ability he did not have before.

I say they both were nerfed slightly but Sasuke more-so because if we give him all of his abilities, he could definitely do real harm to Naruto like ameno-blitz (Naruto never reacted to ameno the two times it was used on him) into human path (or preta), better defense for nullifying attacks, and better distractions/mobility/etc. If we give Naruto all of the bijuu abilities (which he already had, he most likely just considered it useless to use), he just has a new elemental-type that would get nullified just the same as any other technique.

Really, both of them were nerfed and there's no reason for you people to deny that. Naruto and Sasuke are my two favorites; they are both strong and it's reinforced that they are equal. There's no need to put one down to favor another but I do agree Sasuke got the shorter end of the stick at VOTE2. Sick bait because I bit but there really is no comparing the loss of the majority of the paths vs. the loss (not even loss) of different types of elemental chakra in my opinion. Somewhat off-topic, maybe someone can shed some light on why my post had to be reviewed? Did I mess up with links (I used imgur)?
 

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That sasuke lost the fight at vote2 because his rinnegan was new didn't naruto get his powerup at the same time , db say he can use all the jins abilities and we never seen him do it only when mixing it with rasengan , the six tail can wrap you in a poison cloak and four a lava db even say he can use shukaku sand , would be hard to believe seeing he never did any but used boil release on kaguya when she had him stuck in the tree , he heated his body up to the point he was steaming mean he can use the same abilities we seen the other jin do but was still new with there abilities and didn't know what they or he could really do.

It bcus Obito can do all sort of things with Just TSB but Madara and Naruto looks like a noob. How?
 

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They are just so salty that their fav lost to Naruto that they've been left with no choice but to make excuses. Let's be real, Sasuke whether he mastered the Rinnegan or not is no match for Naruto. :coffee:

Biggest pile of fanboyism i read out this thread so far. No wonder no one takes you seriously. Ontop of that kurama stated that they were lucky that sasuke rinnegan is still new or things would have been different. At the end of the day they still equal.
 
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Biggest pile of fanboyism i read out this thread so far. No wonder no one takes you seriously. Ontop of that kurama stated that they were lucky that sasuke rinnegan is still new or things would have been different. At the end of the day they still equal.

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
 

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Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

Nah i have that manga scan to back me up. Like Kurama said, luckily sasuke rinnegan is new so he cant cast chidori & absorb rasengan at the same time :sigar:
 
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Nah i have that manga scan to back me up. Like Kurama said, luckily sasuke rinnegan is new so he cant cast chidori & absorb rasengan at the same time :sigar:

Ok and the exact same thing can be said for Naruto. lol
 

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Now I see why Dubious made that other thread
 
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