Was shisui more skilled than obito?

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He got tagged before the juubi jin aswell in 1v1 with kakashi. Im just trying to figure out why you said this "Obito needed the greatest reaction time in the manga"

This puts him above madara sauske and naruto in reaction

You mean the 1v1 where he was unable to use Kamui, and he intentionally took a Raikiri to the heart to break Madara's seal? That time?
 

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You mean the 1v1 where he was unable to use Kamui, and he intentionally took a Raikiri to the heart to break Madara's seal? That time?

I question his reaction time to a headbutt naruto landed against him yet Madara itachi Nagato didn't struggle
 

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I question his reaction time to a headbutt naruto landed against him yet Madara itachi Nagato didn't struggle

Literally just tension build up. The only hit Naruto ever landed on him by himself and it did literally nothing.

Obito effortlessly battled against a Gates User, Kamui User, and 2 Perfect Jinchuriki at the same time. And later dodged a BM Naruto's strike without being able to phase.
 

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You mean the 1v1 where he was unable to use Kamui, and he intentionally took a Raikiri to the heart to break Madara's seal? That time?

Without kamui his reaction time should have been better since he didnt have to worry about timing his phasing but he was just on kakashi level
 

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Without kamui his reaction time should have been better since he didnt have to worry about timing his phasing but he was just on kakashi level

He was trying to get hit. On purpose. He didn't dodge. He wanted to get hit. He planned it.

I hope I said it enough times to make it clear.
 

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He was trying to get hit. On purpose. He didn't dodge. He wanted to get hit. He planned it.

I hope I said it enough times to make it clear.

Rakiri yes I understand that. I'm talking about the fight that insued before that it wasn't that impressive. Madara ,Sasuke , and Naruto > all have better reaction time just a manga fact ^^
 

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Rakiri yes I understand that. I'm talking about the fight that insued before that it wasn't that impressive. Madara ,Sasuke , and Naruto > all have better reaction time just a manga fact ^^

How do you suppose he could get Kakashi to stab him in the heart if he won the fight? Use your brain, dude.

Madara was struck by Lee of all people. KCM Naruto is faster than 6th Gate Lee, and Obito warped away (not phased through) KCM Naruto effortlessly.
 

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How do you suppose he could get Kakashi to stab him in the heart if he won the fight? Use your brain, dude.

Madara was struck by Lee of all people. KCM Naruto is faster than 6th Gate Lee, and Obito warped away (not phased through) KCM Naruto effortlessly.
Basically speculation Obito was clearly putting in an effort against kakashi and then knowingly got hit by raikiri. To say he wasn't trying is just ur opinion

Juubi Jin madara ? Rikudou Naruto and Sasuke ? lol wot
 

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Basically speculation Obito was clearly putting in an effort against kakashi and then knowingly got hit by raikiri. To say he wasn't trying is just ur opinion

Juubi Jin madara ? Rikudou Naruto and Sasuke ? lol wot

So you want Obito to try, win the fight, then magically get stabbed in the heart. Nice logic there. I'm sorry, but if you honestly think that Obito, the man who went toe to toe with a Gates User, a Kamui User and 2 Perfect Jinchuriki can't defeat Kakashi while neither of them have Kamui, you're a moron. Did you miss the ~5 other times Obito already shat on Kakashi and Naruto together without using Kamui?

Obito already out-reacted and outsped JJ Madara. Obito already outsped and out-reacted Naruto and Sasuke as well. Was it plot induced? Yes. But is it a fact? Yes.
 

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So you want Obito to try, win the fight, then magically get stabbed in the heart. Nice logic there. I'm sorry, but if you honestly think that Obito, the man who went toe to toe with a Gates User, a Kamui User and 2 Perfect Jinchuriki can't defeat Kakashi while neither of them have Kamui, you're a moron. Did you miss the ~5 other times Obito already shat on Kakashi and Naruto together without using Kamui?

Obito already out-reacted and outsped JJ Madara. Obito already outsped and out-reacted Naruto and Sasuke as well. Was it plot induced? Yes. But is it a fact? Yes.

Dude could only go against them with kamui lmao wot. His fight with kakashi pretty much showed without kamui they are basically on the level reaction wise anything else is just your opinion.

JJ madara causally stomped him from jumping when did obito outspeed him? When did Obito outspeed Rikudou naruto?
 

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Yes, because Obito is a loser and a failure.

Kamui did everything for him.
 

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Before Madara he sucked after Madara he was only good with kamui no kamui shisui wrecks him obito with kamui nearly got killed by konan and the bug dude

I guess without it he be high Chuunin or low jounin

id say he could put up a fight because he still is highly skilled in katon techniques and he does still have mokuton
 

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Bruh? Shisui>itachi, which means shisui >[SUP]∞[/SUP] :sdo:
 

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Is Tobi skilled without kamui?

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Of course he's skilled, but with KA it would be a problem against anybody. Besides that his skills easily surpasses Shisui, you have to be dumb to think otherwise.
 
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Fapmancer rides Obito's dick harder than Angelic
 
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