why trump would be the worst us president to date

[Marin]

Ebbs and flows are the only things this world has really known, Konan.

It is a liberal delusion that the cycle will end.

The past few decades has been the most peaceful and prosperous ever experienced by the west.

Alas, the 'nature of things' once again crushes that ancient dream of man, that the good will ever last.

The storms of history are approaching.

Our world will be engulfed by them whatever the outcome of these little things, whether Bernie or Trump will be victor.

Sanders and his supporters think that the welfare state will be able to protect and feed them in perpetuity, all the while the worms and maggots feast on their savior.

How insignificant will that folly turn out to be when war once again forces itself upon that true hero, the common man and woman.

The real choice, for people like you and me, Konan, will be in deciding who we are and what we are.

The enemies of our people will not care about anything else for they have no intention of giving us the freedom of choice in who or what we want to be.

Thus the only wise political course of action is that which will quickest jog the memory of our people as to who and what they were, and indeed still are, before the time comes that we must once again take the sword to defend our place in this world.

It is my belief that Trump in some way heralds the awakening of the occident. Because we have slept too long and let them come too close, the near future truly will be a very hard and cruel one, I admit.

Yet the alternative to the inescapable path that awaits us is the fate of countless peoples, cultures and civilizations that did not traverse it to the end - death.

Donald J. Trump eloquently said it the other day, "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep."

Let us fight as a peoples and die together with dignity if we must, than let the enemy do with us whatever it wants.

You a prophet or smtn?

 

[Narushima]

You a prophet or smtn?

No, the Lord has said nothing to me but I happen to have a crystal ball - I like to call it history and the way of man.

Its magic might be a gift from Mephistopheles but unlike you good Christians who shun him entirely, I venture to try and use him to my own advantage.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

If the Internet could collectively vote, Bernie Sanders would win by more than 98%.

Yet here we are. It's insane. I've literally met one Trump and one Hillary supporter. Ever. In real life, on the internet, within my facebook friends... I don't understand.

Lots of Hillary and Donald's supporters are low information voters.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Ebbs and flows are the only things this world has really known, Konan.

It is a liberal delusion that the cycle will end.

The past few decades has been the most peaceful and prosperous ever experienced by the west.

Alas, the 'nature of things' once again crushes that ancient dream of man, that the good will ever last.

The storms of history are approaching.

Our world will be engulfed by them whatever the outcome of these little things, whether Bernie or Trump will be victor.

Sanders and his supporters think that the welfare state will be able to protect and feed them in perpetuity, all the while the worms and maggots feast on their savior.

How insignificant will that folly turn out to be when war once again forces itself upon that true hero, the common man and woman.

The real choice, for people like you and me, Konan, will be in deciding who we are and what we are.

The enemies of our people will not care about anything else for they have no intention of giving us the freedom of choice in who or what we want to be.

Thus the only wise political course of action is that which will quickest jog the memory of our people as to who and what they were, and indeed still are, before the time comes that we must once again take the sword to defend our place in this world.

It is my belief that Trump in some way heralds the awakening of the occident. Because we have slept too long and let them come too close, the near future truly will be a very hard and cruel one, I admit.

Yet the alternative to the inescapable path that awaits us is the fate of countless peoples, cultures and civilizations that did not traverse it to the end - death.

Donald J. Trump eloquently said it the other day, "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep."

Let us fight as a peoples and die together with dignity if we must, than let the enemy do with us whatever it wants.

Trump didn't eloquently say anything, he found a tweet which quoted Musollini of all people. You make it seem like there is something sophisticated about him. There isn't. The masses love him because he represents their stupidity.

 

[Marin]

No, the Lord has said nothing to me but I happen to have a crystal ball - I like to call it history and the way of man.

Its magic might be a gift from Mephistopheles but unlike you good Christians who shun him entirely, I venture to try and use him to my own advantage.

Aàaaaaaalrighty then

 

[paratise]

Trump didn't eloquently say anything, he found a tweet which quoted Musollini of all people. You make it seem like there is something sophisticated about him. There isn't. The masses love him because he represents their stupidity.

Trump would say "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." and people would romanticize/defend that shizz. No wonder this member actually said this:

It is my belief that Trump in some way heralds the awakening of the occident.

Trump gonna awake the West, he is 21st century equivalent of Rennaisence with enlightment oozing through his mop of wig.

OT: I am not American but here is a little anectod:

About 1 month ago my father and i were talking about the infamous elections of USA (he says Hillary will win and i say Bernie) when we were speaking of Trump i said i can not believe there is a threatening amount of people supporting him, and that he might actually get elected. Well he reminded me that we have a president which might not be believable to an average American or any other foreigner yet he got elected by vote.

The reason why these "i can not believe he has supporters" type of candidates is getting elected is they represent their voter base. While this is obvious, it is half of the truth. These type of candidates also represent who this voter base want to be.

These type of candidates are the favorites of people who almost exclusively come from people who have non-marginalized ethnic/religious backgrounds and have tendency to play the victim when it is convinient. And when their bigoted leader is seen, they find their light who will finally truly treat people fair and equal; in their own terms. Finally the yoke of PC/liberal/minority/infidel pressure will be gone thanks to the likes of Trump/Erdogan(our p).

The candidates like mentioning the "hardships" they got through and remind that they are of the people "My whole life really has been a 'no' and I fought through it. I talk about it. It has not been easy for me... My father gave me a small loan of $1 million." “We used to call it the quiet majority, but people are fed up – they are fed up with incompetence, they are fed up with stupid leaders, they are fed up with stupid people.” etc. They reflect the mighty dilemma of democracy based on majority: if majority says so, it is the final word.

They represent winning for their voterbase, the people who want to be like them: 'We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with winning.'. When our president get elected the voterbase always says this: "koyduk mu?". It is hard to translate in English but it means something like "did we pound on it?"(referring to "losers" who -lost- as the candidate they voted did not win). The voters of Trump-like candidates are like majority, they take pride in thing they did not achieve, they have a collective reflection that is Trump and he is gonna win for them, he will speak for them, he is gonna "pound on it" for them, he is them.

 

[SoundBar]

Trump won't win. Entertaining to watch though.

 

[BlacLord™]

An important part of governing a nation is to be able to involve oneself in colloquy, and to be fair-minded, calm, ready to compromise and amicable.

Trump is none of those things, and considering the world's delicate and complex relations between nations, he could well prove calamitous for the US and the world.

 

[Narushima]

Trump would say "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." and people would romanticize/defend that shizz. No wonder this member actually said this:


Trump gonna awake the West, he is 21st century equivalent of Rennaisence with enlightment oozing through his mop of wig.

As I mentioned to Pumpkin Ninja in my rep to his post before you even replied, a Kurdish fighter in Iraq once said something about living like a lion in an interview, too.

See paratise this is why your approach to things, no matter how 'good' your intentions, never work.

While you talk about human rights, equality and all that, the truth is that the streams of history in your land is polluted with the blood of the Armenians and Kurds. That blood was shed by your people, the Turks.

You repeatedly broach Hitler so let me show you what he once said about a genocide he had planned, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" That man took some of his inspiration from what your ancestors did to their Armenian minority whereas my British ancestors bled against him, and yet you constantly speak of him to me.

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While your country's use of violence to suppress the Kurdish people may have lessened, that they continue to long for freedom is a testament to their oppression, however attenuated it may be.

Which is why they continue to yearn for a state of their own, free of the yoke of Turkish rule, where they can speak their own language, advance their own culture, have complete control over their own resources, and so on.

Being outnumbered and outmatched, they resort to asymmetric warfare; you call it 'terrorism.' But unlike the soldiers of Allah who blow themselves up in helpless minority Shia mosques, the Kurds aren't terrorizing you because they want you to live this way or that way, they care nothing for how your people want to live - they simply want to be free of you.

I am the user Prometheus Beta, and not Aim64C by the way. The only woman who I have ever been with in my life up to this point is an ethnic Chinese woman. And she will be the mother of my children in the future. So much for my love of the "White Aryan woman."

So why do hold the views I do? Because I try to see the world as it is, and not as I'd like it to be.

There has never been a society comprised of different peoples sharing the same social, economic and political resources that was long-lasting. Not a single one. This is the dark-side to the biology of living in groups in homo-sapiens - in that other thread, I cited a scientific paper (which had an ethnic Turk as one of its authors) which discusses this topic in more detail.

And when Whites become a minority in America (as it has been forecasted), in the long-run, if history and biology are to be our guides, we should expect that they will go the way of the Kurds in Turkey, at the very best. If we allow the borders to remain open in Europe, the same will happen.

The woman of my life notwithstanding (in fact I care about the Chinese people to the same extent that I do for the English), I care about my ethnic kinsmen for the same reason most other people do. And I don't want them to suffer that fate.

You can call me Nazi and you can call the Kurdish insurgency terrorists all you want. But we will not go away. And there are only two permanent solutions to this problem - either you kill and expel us all down to the last man, woman and child as you nearly did to the Armenians in your country. Or we all go our separate ways. Which one do you prefer?

 

[Ciao]

what is all lives matter movement

 

[Dark Sonic]

I think I'll stay in Kenya right now if he actually wins.....

 

[SSStylish]

7- he believes the us should build a wall at the mexican border because they're rapists.

Can someone provide a source of this? Like a video in which he says this? Because I honestly doubt that's true :|

 

[Dark Sonic]

Can someone provide a source of this? Like a video in which he says this? Because I honestly doubt that's true :|

He said that shit back in October. If you not into media I don't blame ya.

 

[paratise]

HAhaha...you tried to pull this on PN about how Hazaras are persecuted in Afghanistan because he is the ethnic majority... You automaticly assumed we deny there is ethnic persecution in our countries and apply Western exceptionalism.

I know my country, my people, my history better than you. So refrain from using these 3 things -which i will always strive for their sake- against me.

As I mentioned to Pumpkin Ninja in my rep to his post before you even replied, a Kurdish fighter in Iraq once said something about living like a lion in an interview, too.

I am not Iraqi.

See paratise this is why your approach to things, no matter how 'good' your intentions, never work.

Because my country is not perfect..?

While you talk about human rights, equality and all that, the truth is that the streams of history in your land is polluted with the blood of the Armenians and Kurds. That blood was shed by your people, the Turks.

When did i ever blamed Brits or whites or whatever collectively? There are good and bad in every race and no one needs a picture perfect history of their people for talking about human rights. If that would be the case, nobody's people has a clean past.

You repeatedly broach Hitler so let me show you what he once said about a genocide he had planned, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" That man took some of his inspiration from what your ancestors did to their Armenian minority whereas my British ancestors bled against him, and yet you constantly speak of him to me.

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I am not my ancestors, neither i gave Hitler inspiration.

My ancestors were from Balkans and present day Armenia, fyi.

While your country's use of violence to suppress the Kurdish people may have lessened, that they continue to long for freedom is a testament to their oppression, however attenuated it may be.

Which is why they continue to yearn for a state of their own, free of the yoke of Turkish rule, where they can speak their own language, advance their own culture, have complete control over their own resources, and so on.

They will not have a complete control over their resources if they gain independence.
Do you know zlich about mid east?

Being outnumbered and outmatched, they resort to asymmetric warfare; you call it 'terrorism.' But unlike the soldiers of Allah who blow themselves up in helpless minority Shia mosques, the Kurds aren't terrorizing you because they want you to live this way or that way, they care nothing for how your people want to live - they simply want to be free of you.

We call it terrorism because innocent people have been died because of them, they use underage soldiers, there is a massive amount of drug trafficking, they use suicide bombs as a mean to attack.

Oh how the millions of Kurds who live in İstanbul, İzmir, Adana would like to be free of Turks to live in Şırnak and Diyarbakır of everywhere.

Just to make it clear; i am not against seperation completely. I am against autonomy; i stand for either complete seperation of Kurdish and Turkish states or seeking a future in current borders.

I am the user Prometheus Beta, and not Aim64C by the way. The only woman who I have ever been with in my life up to this point is an ethnic Chinese woman. And she will be the mother of my children in the future. So much for my love of the "White Aryan woman."

I am not impressed by tokenization. I have seen what you wrote about many groups of people.

So why do hold the views I do?

Because you are a racist.

Because I try to see the world as it is, and not as I'd like it to be.

Well, you need to learn a lot.

There has never been a society comprised of different peoples sharing the same social, economic and political resources that was long-lasting. Not a single one. This is the dark-side to the biology of living in groups in homo-sapiens - in that other thread, I cited a scientific paper (which had an ethnic Turk as one of its authors) which discusses this topic in more detail.

It does not mean people should strive for better. People, throughout history have developed many thing they did not use to have. People of different ethnicities can live peacefully, unless your relation with that Chinese lady is an outlier..?

And when Whites become a minority in America (as it has been forecasted), in the long-run, if history and biology are to be our guides, we should expect that they will go the way of the Kurds in Turkey, at the very best. If we allow the borders to remain open in Europe, the same will happen.

Nope, whites are majority, and they always held power in USA. Kurds did not hold most power in Turkey, even during Ottoman Empire they were equal to other anatolian Sunni Muslim folk. And Kurds' numbers are increasing higher rate than Turks. So in you fallacious scenario they should be the majority.

This is a false equivalency, whites in USA and Kurds in Turkey can not parallel.

The woman of my life notwithstanding (in fact I care about the Chinese people to the same extent that I do for the English), I care about my ethnic kinsmen for the same reason most other people do. And I don't want them to suffer that fate.

Try making better working anaoligies for your people then.

You can call me Nazi and you can call the Kurdish insurgency terrorists all you want. But we will not go away. And there are only two permanent solutions to this problem - either you kill and expel us all down to the last man, woman and child as you nearly did to the Armenians in your country. Or we all go our separate ways. Which one do you prefer?

I did not call Kurdish people terrorists either.

Here is the difference between how can i say me "calling you out" and you "calling me out":

I did not accuse you of racism based on your ethnicity. You did so because of my ethnicity.

You assumed that since i was a Turk, i was responsible for the crimes of other Turks, i am racist as them and i ignore my country's problems within its past and present.

That is when all your supposed "gotcha" have fell down. I am a majority Turk, whose family has a Sunni background. Like i am the majority in my country and i heavily critisize out current government who panders into its mostly Sunni-Turk voterbase.

Expelling you down, wth? I have no relation with Britain nor my country has much of it.

There are no seperate ways. Humans can not ignore their past with its bad and its good. There are millions of Kurdish/Turkish mixed people. There are millions of Turks in East and Kurds in West. There are Armenians living in Istanbul. Neither your 2edgy4u neo-fascism or imaginary borders will change that; if they do there will be bigger pains along the way such as forced population exchanges almost no one wants.

PS: Your mindset was the thing that carried the Armenian genocide and persecuted the Kurds. These things happened because the "other" was threat and other must be held down. You should not use these people and their struggles for your own petty agenda.

 

[Saikyokami]

Can someone provide a source of this? Like a video in which he says this? Because I honestly doubt that's true :|

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The way people word it makes it sounds like he flat out and said
"Everyone single mexicano is a rapist". That's not true.
What he said was actually true though. SOME are.... As are some Americanos.

Disclaimer: Not a Trump Supporter. Just an African-Canadian who's staying in America to help my aunt after her surgery. Ain't I such a good nephew?

 

[Angelic.]

I hope whoever he runs against does a good job making him look like a hack. He talks a lot so it's hard to keep up with his bs

 

[SSStylish]

He said that shit back in October. If you not into media I don't blame ya.

As far as I remember Trump said that rape etc. is a bigger problem with "illegal" immigrants than it is with US citizens or something along this line. The OP and many other liberals twist what he said into him saying that "all" mexicans are rapists. He doesn't even think that all illegal one's are this way so it really just sounds like bs to me. :hmm:

 

[Angelic.]

As far as I remember Trump said that rape etc. is a bigger problem with "illegal" immigrants than it is with US citizens or something along this line. The OP and many other liberals twist what he said into him saying that "all" mexicans are rapists. He doesn't even think that all illegal one's are this way so it really just sounds like bs to me. :hmm:

Yeah he was talking about illegals but the problem is is that he and the other gop generalize them as faceless bad people with no effort to learn about them or reach out. They do that to everyone who isn't white Christian

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

As I mentioned to Pumpkin Ninja in my rep to his post before you even replied, a Kurdish fighter in Iraq once said something about living like a lion in an interview, too.

See paratise this is why your approach to things, no matter how 'good' your intentions, never work.

While you talk about human rights, equality and all that, the truth is that the streams of history in your land is polluted with the blood of the Armenians and Kurds. That blood was shed by your people, the Turks.

You repeatedly broach Hitler so let me show you what he once said about a genocide he had planned, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" That man took some of his inspiration from what your ancestors did to their Armenian minority whereas my British ancestors bled against him, and yet you constantly speak of him to me.

You must be registered for see links

While your country's use of violence to suppress the Kurdish people may have lessened, that they continue to long for freedom is a testament to their oppression, however attenuated it may be.

Which is why they continue to yearn for a state of their own, free of the yoke of Turkish rule, where they can speak their own language, advance their own culture, have complete control over their own resources, and so on.

Being outnumbered and outmatched, they resort to asymmetric warfare; you call it 'terrorism.' But unlike the soldiers of Allah who blow themselves up in helpless minority Shia mosques, the Kurds aren't terrorizing you because they want you to live this way or that way, they care nothing for how your people want to live - they simply want to be free of you.

I am the user Prometheus Beta, and not Aim64C by the way. The only woman who I have ever been with in my life up to this point is an ethnic Chinese woman. And she will be the mother of my children in the future. So much for my love of the "White Aryan woman."

So why do hold the views I do? Because I try to see the world as it is, and not as I'd like it to be.

There has never been a society comprised of different peoples sharing the same social, economic and political resources that was long-lasting. Not a single one. This is the dark-side to the biology of living in groups in homo-sapiens - in that other thread, I cited a scientific paper (which had an ethnic Turk as one of its authors) which discusses this topic in more detail.

And when Whites become a minority in America (as it has been forecasted), in the long-run, if history and biology are to be our guides, we should expect that they will go the way of the Kurds in Turkey, at the very best. If we allow the borders to remain open in Europe, the same will happen.

The woman of my life notwithstanding (in fact I care about the Chinese people to the same extent that I do for the English), I care about my ethnic kinsmen for the same reason most other people do. And I don't want them to suffer that fate.

You can call me Nazi and you can call the Kurdish insurgency terrorists all you want. But we will not go away. And there are only two permanent solutions to this problem - either you kill and expel us all down to the last man, woman and child as you nearly did to the Armenians in your country. Or we all go our separate ways. Which one do you prefer?

Why must you go on page long tangents? Although, you might think so, they're not relevant replies. What does Paratise's background have to do with her view on Trump? Are you saying because Turkey has/is doing worse, she can't criticize the US candidates? Horrible logic. Okay, sure, the quote Trump posted was good regardless of who made it up. However, there is still a difference between eloquently saying something and retweeting something you think sounds cool.

 

[GreyWizard93]

Sounds like my kinda guy.