Hagoromo was the first one to summon Gedo Mazou [Solid facts]

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hello fellow fans, I just got bored a bit so I decided to estabilish this fact, which I guess should be fact based on the manga, so let's do it.

1. Hagoromo doesn't know about Black Zetsu's existence:
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2. Black Zetsu was the one who stood behind and changed content of the tablet Hagoromo left:
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3. We know that Madara has read text on the Stone Tablet, that how he knew and explained that to Obito:

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Of course it was only temporary to survive creation of tailed beasts. I am going to write whole Ootsutsuki story using movie, novel, manga and databook solid evidences :).

Thanks for reading ! :)
 

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hello fellow fans, I just got bored a bit so I decided to estabilish this fact, which I guess should be fact based on the manga, so let's do it.

1. Hagoromo doesn't know about Black Zetsu's existence:
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2. Black Zetsu was the one who stood behind and changed content of the tablet Hagoromo left:
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3. We know that Madara has read text on the Stone Tablet, that how he knew and explained that to Obito:

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4. How Black Zetsu could know ?. Simple because He was there when Hagoromo has done it for first time:

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Of course it was only temporary to survive creation of tailed beasts. I am going to write whole Ootsutsuki story using movie, novel, manga and databook solid evidences :).

Thanks for reading ! :)

No, he didn't. He would have no reason or time to summon the Mazo. Ignoring his retconalicious history, he is supposed to have created the Bijuu and sealed the mazo at around the same time, meaning there is no reason for him to summon the mazo at any point.
 

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No, he didn't. He would have no reason or time to summon the Mazo. Ignoring his retconalicious history, he is supposed to have created the Bijuu and sealed the mazo at around the same time, meaning there is no reason for him to summon the mazo at any point.

However when Kaguya got sealed by Naruto and Sasuke she turned into Gedo...
 

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So why would Hagoromo summon the Gedo Mazo? I'm not doubting he can, i'm just saying he had no reason to summon it.

for sole reason to live on the extraction of giant mass of chakra of which tailed beasts were made. Then he simply unsummoned it or just Hamura to reverse summoned it back.
 

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If he ever did he would have chakra rods
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And Black zetsu would be inside Hagoromoo like he was with Madara/Tobi
 

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If he ever did he would have chakra rods
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And Black zetsu would be inside Hagoromoo like he was with Madara/Tobi

If you summon gedo mazo that doesn't happen bro
 

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If he ever did he would have chakra rods
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And Black zetsu would be inside Hagoromoo like he was with Madara/Tobi

Nope Black zetsu was created when Gedo mazou was hurling in space to make moon so they are not connected, Later BZ just fooled Madara making false impression of comming from Gedo Mazou, well at least that was manga has shown to us.
 

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If you summon gedo mazo that doesn't happen bro

Isn't that how Nagato got the rods in his body? It's in the page I just posted
Nope Black zetsu was created when Gedo mazou was hurling in space to make moon so they are not connected, Later BZ just fooled Madara making false impression of comming from Gedo Mazou, well at least that was manga has shown to us.
So black zetsu came from space/moon?
 

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Isn't that how Nagato got the rods in his body? It's in the page I just posted

So black zetsu came from space/moon?

Well no, he just was born/created and escaped the moment Gedo Mazou was about to hurl into space, he just dropped on ground and hide himself somewhere.
 

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If Hago wrote the tablet when he was JuubiJin, Kaguya would've seen everything from inside him like Kurama sees everything from inside Naruto. BZ is Kaguya's will so every bit of knowledge she has is in him too.

If Hago wrote the tablet after removing the Juubi then BZ escaped from the statue before the Gedo was sent to the moon and he spied on the Sage from the shadows like he's been spying on everyone for the last 1000 years.
 

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If Hago wrote the tablet when he was JuubiJin, Kaguya would've seen everything from inside him like Kurama sees everything from inside Naruto. BZ is Kaguya's will so every bit of knowledge she has is in him too.

If Hago wrote the tablet after removing the Juubi then BZ escaped from the statue before the Gedo was sent to the moon and he spied on the Sage from the shadows like he's been spying on everyone for the last 1000 years.

Exactly also you should consider Hagoromo and Juubi didn't have friendly relation as Naruto and Kurama did in the final part of war arc. Most likely later makes more sense.
 

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Well no, he just was born/created and escaped the moment Gedo Mazou was about to hurl into space, he just dropped on ground and hide himself somewhere.
So wouldn't that mean exactly that black zetsu as chakra rods form would be inside hagoromoo?
Because in order for you to control the statue, you'll need it the rods inside of you. Hagormoo had it sealed inside himself while black zetsu came from the mazou itself.
 

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So wouldn't that mean exactly that black zetsu as chakra rods form would be inside hagoromoo?
Because in order for you to control the statue, you'll need it the rods inside of you. Hagormoo had it sealed inside himself while black zetsu came from the mazou itself.

Possible, either that or Kishi just didn't think twice about it. Also there is great possibility that Hagoromo being master of Rinnegan and having great control over such power was unaffected by BZ. However most likely BZ knows he couldn't do anything to Hago so he just waited for opportunity to strike him when some weakness get to him(or age)
 

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so it seems it is accepted as fact. Nice to know there is so many intelligent and wise people ;).
 

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Hagoromo was the creator of Gedo Mazo
 

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Hagoromo was the creator of Gedo Mazo

No he was not. The Gedo Mazou most likely came from God Tree mering with Kaguya's body after all chakra was extracted.
 

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No he was not. The Gedo Mazou most likely came from God Tree mering with Kaguya's body after all chakra was extracted.

Why the husk is so different in appearance compare to Juubi?

One thing I bring in here was GM eye. It suppose to be one/single eye even though without Tomoes to represent it resemblance to Juubi. Not nine separated eyes.

And it wearing a form of attire. Weird
 

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Why the husk is so different in appearance compare to Juubi?

One thing I bring in here was GM eye. It suppose to be one/single eye even though without Tomoes to represent it resemblance to Juubi. Not nine separated eyes.

And it wearing a form of attire. Weird

You are right, well maybe disturbance made by forcefully extracted chakra made some transformation of Juubi's body shape...
Similliar to Kaguya's loosing human's form once hit by Naruto powerfull attacks
 
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