[VS] Hebi Sasuke VS Sasori

[Icelerate]

Location: Sasuke VS Deidara
Starting Distance: 50 m
Intel: Full
Starting Conditions: Sasori starts with the 3rd Kazekage out and iron sand prepped. Sasuke starts off with 3 tomoe sharingan and leaves behind any metallic weapon he usually has.
Restrictions: Boss summons.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Sasori wins.

1. Same reaction level as Deidara and sightly better Taijutsu stats via DB.
2. Katon and Raiton are blocked via IS
3. Sasori uses the appropriate metod of IS usage, taking out or scratching Sasuke.

 

[Icelerate]

Sasori wins.

No Sasuke mid diffs.

1. Same reaction level as Deidara and sightly better Taijutsu stats via DB.

Well Sasuke's speed and reactions would increase with CS1 and CS2 so he's capable of blitzing Sasori from within 15 m if he can get within 2 meters to Deidara (before Deidara reacts) from 15 m in base.

2. Katon and Raiton are blocked via IS

Agreed with katon but if Sasori does that, both the katon and the iron sand create cover for Sasuke to blindside and take Sasori out similar to all these scenarios (

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

). As for raiton, sure chidori senbons would get blocked but chidori or chidori sharp spear will be used directly against Sasori or the 3rd Kazekage.

3. Sasori uses the appropriate metod of IS usage, taking out or scratching Sasuke.

Too vague to counter.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Well Sasuke's speed and reactions would increase with CS1 and CS2 so he's capable of blitzing Sasori from within 15 m if he can get within 2 meters to Deidara (before Deidara reacts) from 15 m in base.

True but starting distance gives him enough time to set up IS defense from the get go.

Agreed with katon but if Sasori does that, both the katon and the iron sand create cover for Sasuke to blindside and take Sasori out similar to all these scenarios (

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

). As for raiton, sure chidori senbons would get blocked but chidori or chidori sharp spear will be used directly against Sasori or the 3rd Kazekage.

These scenes are only showing blocking a specific area. I was thinking more of using IS to cover all angles. And since IS is stronger then Sand, I dont think Raiton is going to make a deep enough penetration to reach Sasori or Kazekage.

Too vague to counter.

A appropriate method would be to use 1 block of sand for offense and 1 block of sand for defense. Sasori can make a lethal defence, so going close quarters would mean his going to have to breach spiky walls of iron protection (of course not completely seal so Sasori can have a Los).

Offense would be use for Sand Hail, AoE of small spiky rain drops of IS. Sasuke is bound to get caught/scratched. If by mircle he doesnt get caught,

1. running on the floor would be too dangerous
2. Sasuke's line of sight dodging Hail, would mean an opening for Sasori shooting some IS off of his defense block.
3. Sasori can retrieve them back, either back stabbing Sasori or rinse and repeat

 

[Icelerate]

True but starting distance gives him enough time to set up IS defense from the get go.

Okay.

These scenes are only showing blocking a specific area. I was thinking more of using IS to cover all angles. And since IS is stronger then Sand, I dont think Raiton is going to make a deep enough penetration to reach Sasori or Kazekage.

So you're using a 360 defense? In that case, chidori sharp spear through the hole takes out the 3rd Kazekage puppet.

A appropriate method would be to use 1 block of sand for offense and 1 block of sand for defense. Sasori can make a lethal defence, so going close quarters would mean his going to have to breach spiky walls of iron protection (of course not completely seal so Sasori can have a Los).

1 Block of sand was pretty useless against Chiyo and Sakura so Sasuke easily outspeeds it. That hole allowing Sasori LoS is going to be the opening Sasuke uses to hit him with chidori sharp spear.

Offense would be use for Sand Hail, AoE of small spiky rain drops of IS. Sasuke is bound to get caught/scratched. If by mircle he doesnt get caught,

As Sasori sends the sand hail above Sasuke, Sasuke shunshins out of its AoE much like Sakura did to the iron sand block directly above her.

1. running on the floor would be too dangerous
2. Sasuke's line of sight dodging Hail, would mean an opening for Sasori shooting some IS off of his defense block.
3. Sasori can retrieve them back, either back stabbing Sasori or rinse and repeat

1. Not in CS2 where simply stepping on iron sand pellets won't pierce through flesh. Not to mention Sasuke could choose to glide.

2. If Sasuke shunshins out of range from the iron sand drizzle, he'll recover LoS with Sasori easily due to not being under pressure after escaping the drizzle.

3. Nothing stops Sasuke from closing the distance and finish off the 3rd Kazekage while Sasori regathers the iron sand.

 

[NarutoX28]

I think Sasori wins this, closer to high-diff probably.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Hebi sasuke high diff

 

[Brother Numpsay]

So you're using a 360 defense? In that case, chidori sharp spear through the hole takes out the 3rd Kazekage puppet.

Sasori doesnt have to expose the puppet.

You must be registered for see links

when Sasori attempts to reach around 5 meters.

1 Block of sand was pretty useless against Chiyo and Sakura so Sasuke easily outspeeds it. That hole allowing Sasori LoS is going to be the opening Sasuke uses to hit him with chidori sharp spear.

1 Block of sand isnt actually going to used as a block to attack. I just want to mention the quantity and priority of sand usage. Addressed defense gap above.

As Sasori sends the sand hail above Sasuke, Sasuke shunshins out of its AoE much like Sakura did to the iron sand block directly above her.

The I.S. isn't being used the same as against Sakura. The illustration I used was[

You must be registered for see links

]. His not escaping this area

1. Not in CS2 where simply stepping on iron sand pellets won't pierce through flesh. Not to mention Sasuke could choose to glide.

2. If Sasuke shunshins out of range from the iron sand drizzle, he'll recover LoS with Sasori easily due to not being under pressure after escaping the drizzle.

3. Nothing stops Sasuke from closing the distance and finish off the 3rd Kazekage while Sasori regathers the iron sand.

1.What feats suggest Sasuke skin wont get pirece by iron shards? Ill accept glide counter, but it leaves him opening in the air, due to IS capable of changing fly propellant.

2. What makes Sasuke escape such AoE, as I properly illustrate the "hail" usage from a scan.

3. Did you forget the premise? Sasori is playing both defense and offense with Sand.

 

[Icelerate]

Sasori doesnt have to expose the puppet.

You must be registered for see links

when Sasori attempts to reach around 5 meters.

Fine then Sasuke breaches the hole with black chidori if all else fails.

1 Block of sand isnt actually going to used as a block to attack. I just want to mention the quantity and priority of sand usage. Addressed defense gap above.

Okay.

The I.S. isn't being used the same as against Sakura. The illustration I used was[

You must be registered for see links

]. His not escaping this area

Sasori doesn't have that much sand available to him. Mu escaped that while the others who didn't escape are slower than base Hebi Sasuke, let alone with curse mark.

1.What feats suggest Sasuke skin wont get pirece by iron shards? Ill accept glide counter, but it leaves him opening in the air, due to IS capable of changing fly propellant.

2. What makes Sasuke escape such AoE, as I properly illustrate the "hail" usage from a scan.

3. Did you forget the premise? Sasori is playing both defense and offense with Sand.

1. Sakon/Ukon

You must be registered for see links

without any damage so Sasuke being far more durable isn't getting pierced by merely stepping onto fragments. The iron sand bullets on the ground aren't going to be suddenly changed in direction fast enough to tag Sasuke.

2. Sasuke can shunshin towards the

You must be registered for see links

which is larger than any iron sand drizzle that Sasori can muster with one iron sand block. Sasuke also managed to escape the AoE of Deidara's C4 cloud. All of this was in base. In CS2, he was able to temporarily out run Itachi's LoS.

3. Sasori's multitasking ability isn't that great and it takes some time for him to prep his offense, let alone do different techniques simultaneously. It takes him sometime to

You must be registered for see links

and then charge an attack (

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

).

 

[EZQ]

Well with full intel Sasuke might win. Does iron sand have poison?

 

[Tarkatower]

I actually see Sasuke winning this, but not without Curse Mark.

 

[Lariatoo]

Sasori wins high diff.
P.s: loved the art of the Major and the Captain by the guy above me ^^

 

[TRE MERCER]

Isn't hebi Sasuke immune to poison.

 

[isonworth18]

wtf is this sasuke stomps no diff and im being dead serious

 

[BLAZE]

wtf is this sasuke stomps no diff and im being dead serious

No he does not

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke completely destroys him. Oral Rebirth counters poison so ISW isn't gg. Sharingan and his insane speed means he knows of Sasori's heart and he's easily dodging the projectiles he clearly sees.

 

[Ambivalence]

Mid to high-diff win for Sasuke, imo.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Poison is just the layer on top of the cake when it comes to Sasori, he's too much for Sasuke alone.

Please remember how strong and badly-matched Chiyo was for him. Chiyo was easily Kage level and still needed a lot of support and lucky existing intel and Sasuke at this point in the series is simply not there yet.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Fine then Sasuke breaches the hole with black chidori if all else fails.

Ok, just letting you know what would happen attempting to put his whole arm in[

You must be registered for see links

]. In vain

Sasori doesn't have that much sand available to him. Mu escaped that while the others who didn't escape are slower than base Hebi Sasuke, let alone with curse mark.

Sasori not having the same amount of Gaara is irrelevant as his not dropping giant balls,1. his dropping small shards and 2. Going faster pace then Gaara sand speed. PLUS Gaara actually used his gourd for that move, which Sasori carries as much as his gourd.

No Muu already left the area and Onoki chased after him. They were away from that battle before Gaara did Hail. So Sasuke being faster isn't evidence that Sasuke can escape AoE, covering all angles, which also moves faster then Gaaras sand.

1. Sakon/Ukon

You must be registered for see links

without any damage so Sasuke being far more durable isn't getting pierced by merely stepping onto fragments. The iron sand bullets on the ground aren't going to be suddenly changed in direction fast enough to tag Sasuke.

2. Sasuke can shunshin towards the

You must be registered for see links

which is larger than any iron sand drizzle that Sasori can muster with one iron sand block. Sasuke also managed to escape the AoE of Deidara's C4 cloud. All of this was in base. In CS2, he was able to temporarily out run Itachi's LoS.

3. Sasori's multitasking ability isn't that great and it takes some time for him to prep his offense, let alone do different techniques simultaneously. It takes him sometime to

You must be registered for see links

and then charge an attack (

You must be registered for see links

)(

You must be registered for see links

).

1. Thats because they used their CS flesh to rejuvenate new limbs. We already witness any of their original flesh get get damage by a Kunai[

You must be registered for see links

]. Or refer to their fight with Kunkuro. @Bold evidence? Because last time I check Sasori can alter the the speed greater then that of Enton or FRS. And waay faster then Deidara's C2.

2. Addressed Deidara C2 speed and IS already. C4 has no travel speed feats that comparable, and no he used CS2, base form was because it was under Deidara's perception via genjutsu..

3. Not when his connected to Sasori:

You must be registered for see images

Read the ↑ ↓

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

If Sasuke is immune to the poisons like kakashi says he is, then Sasuke wins mid diff.

If he isn't he'd have to avoid getting cut. With his superior speed as well as CM, he can do that. So high diff here.

He can use chidori nagashi if he is getting crowded by puppets.