[Suggestion] RP| Custom similar?

[RuckenTM]

When you have a custom made and it's similar to another. I request Mods to at least write one of the names of the jutsu/ techniques, maybe even link some. This reinforces their statement. I've been looking for a jutsu that was claimed similar and I can't find it, let alone asking the person who was referred as the "similar to". Asking them to check the had made the jutsu of theirs to yours, what are the chances they'll reply back.

 

[Yuse]

When I first started out in regards to customs everything I submitted was DNRed because of similarities. People have been making customs for quite a while so alot of the techniques you will think of have already been made. As for Mods giving you a specific example they sometimes do but thats when its similar to a specific technique not a bunch of techniques in general. Honestly Mods dont even have to give a reason they can decline or DNR without any other comments as to why, so really if they reply with similar to existing techs thats more then they have to. Also most of the time if a Mod sees potential in it being different regardless of similarities he will give you an opportunity to change it telling you what you need to work on.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

When I first started out in regards to customs everything I submitted was DNRed because of similarities. People have been making customs for quite a while so alot of the techniques you will think of have already been made. As for Mods giving you a specific example they sometimes do but thats when its similar to a specific technique not a bunch of techniques in general. Honestly Mods dont even have to give a reason they can decline or DNR without any other comments as to why, so really if they reply with similar to existing techs thats more then they have to. Also most of the time if a Mod sees potential in it being different regardless of similarities he will give you an opportunity to change it telling you what you need to work on.

I find it so weird when ppl say mods dont have to give a reason
cause we all know that but everyyyyyyy mod does give reasons.
But to the thread maker, some jutsus im sure most mods dont even remember the name but its common knowledge to know if some jutsus are made already. Like yusei or whatever said they dont remember it off back or mods prolly never even seen it

but thats like saying you make a custom where you spit a ball of lightning from your mouth
i never seen it as a custom but im almost sure plenty have been made similar

btw some mods simply decline dnr cause they dont wanna list a reason, it was op, or dumb
ppl say u cant bother mods about it, but almost all the time a mod will tell you why they declined it. dont believe the hype that mods are good for nothing scum. They are our life saviors bro..

 

[Urda]

IDK what those people are talking about. :/

Moderators have to tell you why they decline or DNR your Custom(s), that is their job. Saying they don't have to is saying there are not complying to the job assign to them, in other words, abuse of power.

Yeah, Customs are repeated over time. I'm sure it's bothersome to link every "copycat" Custom and often times it is stored in memory, so Moderators can tell you "Similar Technique Exist" because 9 out of 10 they checked it, have it, or seen it.

 

[Yuse]

IDK what those people are talking about. :/

Moderators have to tell you why they decline or DNR your Custom(s), that is their job. Saying they don't have to is saying there are not complying to the job assign to them, in other words, abuse of power.

Yeah, Customs are repeated over time. I'm sure it's bothersome to link every "copycat" Custom and often times it is stored in memory, so Moderators can tell you "Similar Technique Exist" because 9 out of 10 they checked it, have it, or seen it.

They really don't, have you ever read the first page of the cj thread.

 

[Lord of Kaos]

IDK what those people are talking about. :/

Moderators have to tell you why they decline or DNR your Custom(s), that is their job. Saying they don't have to is saying there are not complying to the job assign to them, in other words, abuse of power.

Yeah, Customs are repeated over time. I'm sure it's bothersome to link every "copycat" Custom and often times it is stored in memory, so Moderators can tell you "Similar Technique Exist" because 9 out of 10 they checked it, have it, or seen it.

No we do not. If you read the first post of all Customs thread, it days we hold the right to decline a custom without giving any reason if we don't feel one is needed. People cry abuse of power over every little thing and this doesn't fit that criteria.

 

[Pervyy]

Also when we check customs, we have alot to consider not just the name of every single jutsu that exists in the RP.

Consider this, 6 years ago in the previous cj thread, there was a wind jutsu approved that the user claps their hands together and creates an S rank wind blast. I know this because i've read both threads in full and i actually learnt that jutsu from Ben i believe, just because i don't know the name it doesn't mean i don't know it exists.

Now, i personally give you all reasons why i decline cj, why? So you can improve it and make it fit into todays rp, i don't have to do this, i do this as i want to help you get your own customs. Not just put decline leaving you wondering where you went wrong.

Per cj there is so much to consider, for example one cj this cycle was a genjutsu that makes skin burn like its been hit by acid, for one i know it's been done before, don't know the name, but next you have to consider what other jutsu it can be used with such as the kurama clan to avoid stupid OP abilities.

Now, if you have a problem with me declining your jutsu, come to me, don't make a bogus thread like this which is just complaining about it. Or go spend your time reading through every cj ever submitted and find it yourself if you don't trust our judgement.

 

[RuckenTM]

I'm sorry, not that it will matter now...but surely thank you.

 

[Pervyy]

I'm sorry, not that it will matter now...but surely thank you.

Word of advice that i would of given before being a mod.

Think before you post, remember this is a hobby, rp mods don't get paid to do this, they do it to help so you can have fun.

 

[Urda]

No we do not. If you read the first post of all Customs thread, it days we hold the right to decline a custom without giving any reason if we don't feel one is needed. People cry abuse of power over every little thing and this doesn't fit that criteria.

That is the point of checking a Custom. The rule is stupid. If you tell them why, there wouldn't be a need for that rule.

 

[Josh]

That is the point of checking a Custom. The rule is stupid. If you tell them why, there wouldn't be a need for that rule.

They don't answer to us, they answer to Caliburn. Caliburn doesn't answer to us, nor Zise, nor Lawliet. They answer to Versuvio ("V"), the owner of this site. It is a private website that you are able to use for free. Since the power and authority of the mods are not given by the people, the people do not ultimately need to be answered to or have everything explained to them.

That being said, a majority of the Staff will explain things upon request if done nicely. They don't have to, but many of them will if they have the time to do so. With that, it is often the case that when the Staff do choose to provide a basic answer (such as 'similar tech already exists'), it isn't 'good enough' of an answer. To that I say: you are lucky you got an answer at all because they don't have to give a reason at all.

And if you think that's stupid, well, good for you. You choose to use the free services of a site which expresses their right to operate in the way in which they do. Be reasonable, and the Staff will be as reasonable as they can. Waltz in here like you think you own the place, and you reap what you sow, as you do not, in fact, own this website.

Life isn't fair, and to be honest, most places of business 'reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.' They may not always exercise that ability, but when they do, it is their right.



On-topic: At least you asked if it were possible and got an answer. It is very time consuming for a mod to try and sift through thousands of customs in order to find the exact one which is similar to your submission. It's the unfortunate truth. If you think they are in error, feel free to sift through every custom one by one to make sure, but it won't really change things as anyone can say "i read tge whole thing and didn't find anything close to mine" without actually reading through the threads. :/

 

[Urda]

I'm just going to write bullshit and throw out common sense :/

I understand the rules, but when the shit isn't right, it has to be questioned.

These are quotes from the Red Rule or Blue Rule (one of them):

The techniques are declined for a reason which is most of the times explained even if we are not required to do so. This is never respected but I urge you to start taking this seriously.

It was never respected because they never gave a reason.

NB's moderators have every right to deny any move we wish without true explanation because some techniques submitted do not reach certain criteria that we feel should be accepted.

OK. What are the criteria? Is it overpowered? Unreasonable? What? Your job is to tell them why it doesn't fit the "criteria" so they no one can "duplicate" the same Jutsu again.

 

[Scorps]

I understand the rules, but when the shit isn't right, it has to be questioned.

These are quotes from the Red Rule or Blue Rule (one of them):



It was never respected because they never gave a reason.





OK. What are the criteria? Is it overpowered? Unreasonable? What? Your job is to tell them why it doesn't fit the "criteria" so they no one can "duplicate" the same Jutsu again.

If you want to quote something, don't quote only one part of it:

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±±The Red Rule±±

-The red rule exists and you should check it if you don't know what it is. Bugging any RP mod regarding CJs that were declined and to which you weren't required to contact the given mod, is breaking said rule. The techniques are declined for a reason which is most of the times explained even if we are not required to do so. This is never respected but I urge you to start taking this seriously.

±±The Blue Rule±±

-You aren't allowed to direct us into how to check your customs or tell us to make edits on the submissions to make them approvable. Also, providing expressions like "I talked to X senior sensei and he said its possible" or any variation of such expressions is forbidden. Adding explanations outside the technique's description (or, by that matter, any expression or sentence directed at us) is also forbidden. Anything you wish to explain you need to do so in the technique itself, using the correct template, as it needs to be perfectly understandable by anyone if its to be approved. The necessity to explain or justify things outside of it renders such premise invalid and thus makes the technique unapprovable.

The part you quote pertains to the Red Rule, a rule bolded in the Global Rules of the Forum that regulates the interaction of Members towards Staff to make sure some limits are followed. In short, its a rule to prevent members from "bugging" staff members.

In what regards the Custom Thread, which is the subject of this particular thread, the Red Rule serves to prevent members from spamming our VM walls or PM boxes with complains, half assed justifications, etc etc regarding declined customs.

We don't have to give a reason. Period. We do so because we feel it will help members submit customs. But we don't have to. I have declined jutsu with "Declined, DNR" more than once for the simple reason that its so obviously not something approvable that writing it down is a waste of my time.

If you have any further issues with the Customs Bureau, please, send me a PM with the issue.