Donald Trump vs Bernie Sanders
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Trump would be a better leader but at the same time a super a-hole and a bad example for people. I think Sanders has a few great ideas like free school system and free healthcare for everyone, but I'm a bit skeptical on him leading the most powerful country in the world.
The Necromancer
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You do know he is the CEO of a company worth billions of dollars? You don't get to that point by being a bad leader.
He has the charasterics of a narcissistic and pragmatic person, that's for sure.
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He has been near banktruptcy, built casinos and hotels, made a ton of deals and he "only" sold his dad's business for 600 million and now he is worth 4,5 billion. That takes a good leader.
Not saying I'd vote for the guy but you gotta give him credit for being consistent on his policies. The guy knows how to get by in this world.
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It should be trump you should be skeptical about, guy is bigoted towards many sects of people, God knows what he might do with the most powerful country in the world under his control
OT: I'm not American, but I think sanders is the better choice, Americans, do us good and vote for sanders
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If you think you need to be a leader in any capacity to make money in a business, I have bad news for you.
I want to give you a better example of a man who has no leadership experience making great profits in the business world, but unfortunately Trump is the best example.
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I think you need to be a good leader when you are managing 22 000 employees and at the same time making profit from that company. Trump knows how to prioritaise and how to lead people. You can't make a company on that scale to work without having leadership qualities.
I find it funny that you guys are denying Trump's leadership skills but at the same time I doubt any of you have studied leadership much less have experience in leading. Atleast make an argument on why he is not a good leader.
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1. No CEO handles every employee they have. At most, he deals with maybe a dozen men, most of which are advisers and attorneys which could do his job for him, who work with a dozen different men who work with a dozen different men who work with a dozen different men, down the line to the bottom man. Unless you believe Trump is going around making sure the interns know how to replace the toner in the copy machine.
2. Yes you can. I've already told you how. You inherit it, then have a dozen other men who compartmentalize the functions of your business.
3. Trump can't even explain his own ideas and systems that he is trying to employ, let alone understand the workings of systems already in place that he has no direct hand in.
4. A CEO is used to being in charge. A President is by no means "in charge" in the traditional sense. Being President of a country does not compare to being CEO of a company in any regard.
5. He has no governmental experience. I hope I don't have to explain that one.
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So CEO is a bad leader or can't lead people because he doesn't deal with every person in his company?
While your argument might have some truth to it, it is full of speculation. Atleast it doesn't prove Trump is a bad leader.
Expect Trump Organization isn't the only part of his endeavours that have made him profit. He has had airline company, hotels, casinos and two decades worth of profitable business before he even inherited T.O.
Elaborate. By this I mean give an example.
That's true but a president posesses alot of leadership traits whether or not he actually is a traditional leader. The two don't compare but it helps if you as a president are also a good leader. Because lets face it: a president is a boss for a lot of people. He has a lot of responsibilities so he has to be able to handle pressure. He has to be able to make quick decisions which demands good decisive skills etc. All of those are traits of a leader.
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I would pick trump because he is more realistic when it comes to inside country stuff.
Bernie does seem to want good stuff for the Americans and make everyone happy but after I say what he is planning I can say that he will fail with his promises.
Also trump seems to be on good terms with Putin