Sasuke wouldve lost 2 both Neji Or Lee(Uninjured) in exams PT 1

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Where does in VOTE stated anything about using "more kyuubi chakra", that was never stated at all as far as I remember and it's always been the same since it's the first time we've seen Naruto used it against Haku.
Neji wasn't trying to kill Hinata as well until the end of the fight, Hinata was coughing throughout this matches, your point is invalid. And you underestimate Gentlefist because even when you're holding back, it's still DEADLY.

If you strike with intent to kill, you can do so easily as the organs are situated near some of the chakra coils

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so attacking those coils can cause fatal damage. Moreover, the more chakra you input, the more damage you would cause, since you are literally flowing chakra into the opponent. Neji clearly wasn't trying, he just keeps hitting her because Hinata is pushing herself more, and she was on the ground coughing some blood which Neji has inserted some chakra into her. Some chakra point are blocked and she could'nt move well, as well as she can't use her gentlefist properly while she's barely standing. Still pretty deadly.
Neji could easily kill her in the beginning of the match if he wanted to excel so much chakra onto his gentlefist .

Well there's no way Naruto could react to that many spiders and counter every single one. "Neji Barely" are bound to happen when you're being attacked by that limitless amount of spiders and then another arrows proceed to attack giving the opportunity to strike Neji while the spider is at it.
The difference between Naruto and Neji is obvious. Naruto has foot speed Kyuubi mode which grants him his chance to out maneuver Kidomaru, but if Naruto by chance was in Neji possesion where so much stuff is coming at you while kidomaru was hiding in the bush at 50M+ without knowing the source of the direction he's attacking from, then Naruto kyuubi mode has no way to counter every single spiders/arrows, and he will be in tougher situation then Neji .
Again compared to Haku. Naruto summoning gamabunta to Naruto vs Neji it was always more of kurama's chakra he's using. All of kurama's chakra to summon gamabunta something he couldn't do vs Haku even if he had a contract. And vs Neji he said so himself it was more than this exact time. So if that was fact. In VOTE Naruto's chakra was strong enough to shake nearly the whole valley. By strongest to weakest In chakra uses VOTE > Neji > Gamabunta summoning > Haku.

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Foolish response as expected smh.

I said neji's "attacking" speed and by extension his reaction speed >>> lee's unwieghted speed which is why kishi stressed the fact that lee needed the gates to bypass this advantage by havin lee an gai cement this as fact , that he needed the gates since his sasuke level was not enough.

Lee's and gai's statements were wat they knew as fact , not thoughts , only in the minds fools/ and we kno that the gates requires chakra , madara saw gai's chakra lead to his heart and died out close to his end , 64 palms stops all that from happenin u fool , so we hav u tryin to create fan-fics in order to avoid the simply fact kishi made clear , that neji's reaction's are more than capable of handling sasuke's lee level speed..

Do u even hav proof that lees speed > CE naruto's nb4 u claim the mode used against gaara to be the exact same mode used against neji , read my above post ur weak ass failed to counter.


I guess it was easy for u to miss the fact that naruto sustained his mode against gaara for only a moment and was in and out of the mode before he even launched at gaara , yet claim that this mode is as potent as the one used against neji..

Den this fool calls me a wanker lol.

You assume 4 gate lee is a counter to Neji's combat speed, when it was NEVER mentioned. Naruto in cloak runs at Gaara check the scan. Only in the panel where he is caught does the cloak vanish. So gaara's sand still >>
 

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You assume 4 gate lee is a counter to Neji's combat speed, when it was NEVER mentioned. Naruto in cloak runs at Gaara check the scan. Only in the panel where he is caught does the cloak vanish. So gaara's sand still >>

another failed attempt to link some irrevelant event together.
Having cloak doesnt mean you are at your best conditional, he is at his limit at that time and he strike straight to the target without thinking.
On other hand Naruto body was just being sealed by tenketsu, but after the chakra flow within him, the fight is begin as fresh one - a healthy body.

Please think before post so i dont have to lecture you again.
 

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You assume 4 gate lee is a counter to Neji's combat speed, when it was NEVER mentioned. Naruto in cloak runs at Gaara check the scan. Only in the panel where he is caught does the cloak vanish. So gaara's sand still >>

Sigh smh , lee's whole fight style is to out speed his enemy to the point they can't react before they are crushed by goken , basically a much weaker\slower version of his gates..

Its obvious neji's combat/reaction speed >>>>>> Lee/sasuks base speeds since if he wasn't then he could not react to him since lee's foot speed>> neji , so in order to bypass that advantage and force Lee and their sensei to say that his answer for neji is the gates , it obviously means that his unweighted speed => sasukes wasn't the answer an could not giv lee the ability to run circles around neji as easily as he did gaara's sand , so neji's reaction speed in combat >>>>>>> Lee's speed >= sasuke speed >>>>>> gaara's auto sand speed and likewise neji's attack speed>>>>>>>Lee and sasuke's..

Show the scan , naruto lost the cloak before he dashed and even if not its made irrelevant by the fact its obviously not as much chakra as against neji , hence the cloak vanished and left him useless forcing him to overpower gaara's sand In base.

If naruto lost his cloak in a similar way against neji , right after he dashed behind him and left him in base and defensless , would u still claim he had more chakra than wat was used canonically against neji??? I hope not.

Again , ignoring my point that the mode used against gaara cant be compared to the same mode used against neji in the same way kakashi w/cloak >>>>>>>> kakashi wo/ cloak and kyubi chakra still in him . Are u gonna sit here and argue that the mode used against gaara which was only sustained for a moment and was deactivated before it did anything is as potent as the one used against neji???
 
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Yes i cannot see how Chunin Exam Sasuke wins against Lee,Gaara,Neji and Kyuubi empowered naruto
Yes he could, rotation deflects all chakra based and taijutsu based attacks, it's on par with Susanoo
Damn Toldyouso's sig.linked me to Low brain cell of nds :|
 
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Again compared to Haku. Naruto summoning gamabunta to Naruto vs Neji it was always more of kurama's chakra he's using. All of kurama's chakra to summon gamabunta something he couldn't do vs Haku even if he had a contract. And vs Neji he said so himself it was more than this exact time. So if that was fact. In VOTE Naruto's chakra was strong enough to shake nearly the whole valley. By strongest to weakest In chakra uses VOTE > Neji > Gamabunta summoning > Haku.

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Yea Naruto learn to use kurama chakra to summon gamabunta without going Kyuubi mode so that still doesn't prove your point. Naruto can use kurama chakra to perfecting his ninjutsu but that's not the issue we're addressing.
The point is when you're in Kyuubi mode state, it's always more or less the same chakra he utilized in. Furthermore, the Purpose of Jiriaya training is how to use the Kyuubi chakra knowing when to use it. Because Naruto always awakened the Kyuubi mode without realizing it like the moment with Haku or Orochimaru but yet he still Occupy the Kyuubi chakra in his state even before the battle with Neji.
 

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You assume 4 gate lee is a counter to Neji's combat speed, when it was NEVER mentioned. Naruto in cloak runs at Gaara check the scan. Only in the panel where he is caught does the cloak vanish. So gaara's sand still >>

yeah empty hypes become funny when neji didn't knew what secondary lotus[a 3rd gate technique] was .
Also i Don't think Lee ever used Gates against Neji as gai forbid him from using even primary Lotus[1st gate tech]

but also tbh CE Sasuke in no way defeating CE Lee and Neji
 
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yeah empty hypes become funny when neji didn't knew what secondary lotus[a 3rd gate technique] was .
Also i Don't think Lee ever used Gates against Neji as gai forbid him from using even primary Lotus[1st gate tech]

but also tbh CE Sasuke in no way defeating CE Lee and Neji

Well yea , because 3rd gate=extreme lotus.

In that same scan we have Lee using primary on a much weaker enemy with his weights on , yet u think he never used it against his rival neji despite saying that the extreme lotus was his ace and answer to neji and that he was savin it for him , yet u think he never used a weaker power Lol.
 

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Even after learning Chidori i don't think he had it just yet.

But If lee never fought gaara and made it to the next round and fought Sasuke he wouldve won.

Him and sasuke would have the same speed but we know Lee wouldve used the 5th gate on Sasuke and slayed him.

And against neji even thoughhh Naruto won, Naruto had 2 seperate chakras. One which simply was too much for Neji.

Sasuke on the other hand? Neji counters all his taijustu. while gradually hitting his chakra point's.

Chidori gets repelled by Rotation. and Neji can simply just dodge Katon.



In the end it had to go the way it did cause if Sasuke fought Neji or Uninjured Lee he wouldve lost.

Troll much? At that time Sasuke had everything lee had except the gates... Add chidori and u got 2 serious slaughters, neji looses mid diff, Lee looses high diff if he uses the 6 gates
 

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Naruto was knocked out yet had the energy to dig a tunnel and land an upper-cut on Neji?

Right ... Neji could hardly move. Naruto was running around after the battle. Neji sustained more damage than Naruto did, therefore, it was clear that Naruto negated more of the attack than Neji did.

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Well yea , because 3rd gate=extreme lotus.
yeah you need to open third gate to perform it
Taijutsu) Hidden Lotus (Ura Renge) | Rock Lee
*Attack* *Close* A

Surpassing the body's limits with a second Lotus!! (Panel: HIDDEN LOTUS!!!)

By opening the body's inner gates, known as the "Eight Gates," it is possible to deliver a combination of attacks at a speed inconceivable to ordinary humans. This is Lee's ultimate weapon. Darting around at such speed that not even Gaara's sand can keep up, he strikes with an unstoppable attack. Then, wrapping his opponent up in bandages, he delivers a single blow using his entire body!!

Panel: The Hidden Lotus...is a technique that mustn't be taught!

^Primary (Omote) or Hidden, the Lotus is a forbidden jutsu.

Panel: You should know beforehand, this technique is even more forbidden than the Lotus...And that makes it your most special technique

^Gai taught the technique to Lee, his beloved pupil. Yet his face brims with tension.

---

-> While the Primary Lotus opens only the First Gate, the Hidden Lotus opens, at minimum, the Third Gate.

In that same scan we have Lee using primary
Trying to use
on a much weaker enemy with his weights on , yet u think he never used it against his rival neji
You answered it yourself.He was team mate of neji and gai the leader of team
despite saying that the extreme lotus was his ace and answer to neji and that he was savin it for him , yet u think he never used a weaker power Lol.
Lets say you are right that he did used gates against Neji but that will still mean he opened upto 2 gates against him considering he nvr used Ura Renge/Extreme/Secondary lotus against him
 
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Lol yeah it is.Stopped taking him him seriously long ago
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A troll like you can't take seriously anyway and that's to be expected.
 
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yeah you need to open third gate to perform it

Yea.

Trying to use

Yea key words , "trying" to. "Use" he already got past the point of opening the first gate and preparing to wrap things up , pun intended , with a forbidden technique.

ou answered it yourself.He was team mate of neji and gai the leader of team

Really? Ur usin such poor logic as this ? makes zero sense since Lee literally planed to use extreme lotus on neji , which would surely make neji , his teamate suffer much more than primary lotus , an suffer is a soft term since its likely Lee in gates would break all neji's bones or even kill him

He said it was his "ace " while we have gai saying the freaken answer to defeating neji is " This " high speed combo which should more than mean his slower combos used in anything bar extreme lotus was "not " the answer to defeating neji an it also obviously means Lee "used " everything bar extreme lotus.

Lets say you are right that he did used gates against Neji but that will still mean he opened upto 2 gates against him considering he nvr used Ura Renge/Extreme/Secondary lotus against him

Why da FCK would he use primary lotus on sasuke and not use it on his main target , neji , despite stating the extreme freaken lotus to be his ace??


All these scans prove he used everythin bar extreme lotus , read , understand and put the dots together.









Simple logic bro.
 
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Yea.



Yea key words , "trying" to. "Use" he already got past the point of opening the first gate and preparing to wrap things up , pun intended , with a forbidden technique.



Really? Ur usin such poor logic as this ? makes zero sense since Lee literally planed to use extreme lotus on neji , which would surely make neji , his teamate suffer much more than primary lotus , an suffer is a soft term since its likely Lee in gates would break all neji's bones or even kill him

He said it was his "ace " while we have gai saying the freaken answer to defeating neji is " This " high speed combo which should more than mean his slower combos used in anything bar extreme lotus was "not " the answer to defeating neji an it also obviously means Lee "used " everything bar extreme lotus.



Why da FCK would he use primary lotus on sasuke and not use it on his main target , neji , despite stating the extreme freaken lotus to be his ace??


All these scans prove he used everythin bar extreme lotus , read , understand and put the dots together.









Simple logic bro.

One of the smartest answers I've heard so far
 

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Yea Naruto learn to use kurama chakra to summon gamabunta without going Kyuubi mode so that still doesn't prove your point. Naruto can use kurama chakra to perfecting his ninjutsu but that's not the issue we're addressing.
The point is when you're in Kyuubi mode state, it's always more or less the same chakra he utilized in. Furthermore, the Purpose of Jiriaya training is how to use the Kyuubi chakra knowing when to use it. Because Naruto always awakened the Kyuubi mode without realizing it like the moment with Haku or Orochimaru but yet he still Occupy the Kyuubi chakra in his state even before the battle with Neji.
Except it was really the same thing he knew how much chakra he used and knew it was more than that time when he fought Neji ofc it's the same chakra he's using but each time it's always more than the last time he used it whenever he's in a big fight. This scan proves that. And vs Sasuke his chakra was more and he took on kyuubi features with longer nails thicker whiskers etc etc all the way till he went 1 Tails.

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That was a chakra shield not the rotation and you know the difference
That was actually a rotation.
 

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Where does in VOTE stated anything about using "more kyuubi chakra", that was never stated at all as far as I remember and it's always been the same since it's the first time we've seen Naruto used it against Haku.
Neji wasn't trying to kill Hinata as well until the end of the fight, Hinata was coughing throughout this matches, your point is invalid. And you underestimate Gentlefist because even when you're holding back, it's still DEADLY.

If you strike with intent to kill, you can do so easily as the organs are situated near some of the chakra coils

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so attacking those coils can cause fatal damage. Moreover, the more chakra you input, the more damage you would cause, since you are literally flowing chakra into the opponent. Neji clearly wasn't trying, he just keeps hitting her because Hinata is pushing herself more, and she was on the ground coughing some blood which Neji has inserted some chakra into her. Some chakra point are blocked and she could'nt move well, as well as she can't use her gentlefist properly while she's barely standing. Still pretty deadly.
Neji could easily kill her in the beginning of the match if he wanted to excel so much chakra onto his gentlefist .

Well there's no way Naruto could react to that many spiders and counter every single one. "Neji Barely" are bound to happen when you're being attacked by that limitless amount of spiders and then another arrows proceed to attack giving the opportunity to strike Neji while the spider is at it.
The difference between Naruto and Neji is obvious. Naruto has foot speed Kyuubi mode which grants him his chance to out maneuver Kidomaru, but if Naruto by chance was in Neji possesion where so much stuff is coming at you while kidomaru was hiding in the bush at 50M+ without knowing the source of the direction he's attacking from, then Naruto kyuubi mode has no way to counter every single spiders/arrows, and he will be in tougher situation then Neji .

Stop bringing up VOTE or I'll report you, this thread is about the exams
 

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Except it was really the same thing he knew how much chakra he used and knew it was more than that time when he fought Neji ofc it's the same chakra he's using but each time it's always more than the last time he used it whenever he's in a big fight. This scan proves that. And vs Sasuke his chakra was more and he took on kyuubi features with longer nails thicker whiskers etc etc all the way till he went 1 Tails.

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That was actually a rotation.

What the fk are you talking about that the slowest (one of ) thing you've said that the rotation is the full spin at rapid speed that is a chakra shield
 
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