He wins high diff. Based on the separate feats from trebol diamante and pica they should be able to push him to a high diff for example pica attacks with a series of stone arms distracting zoro while diamante sets up his spike rain and trebol covers the ground with his DF pica retreats diamante drops the spikes causing them to fall on to each other causing sparks that catch fire and explode
[VS] Zoro vs Pica, Diamante, and Trebol
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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I'm so mad ppl actually think zoro can win against all three of the exects .... He has a semi high diff fight against pica alone (yes pica ran but that's his strategy u don't only have to go head first he realized zoro was physically stronger and he knew he was faster he played to his strengths not to mention his ultimate goal was to make sure no one went past that level on the floor which is why he has to continuesly use big golem to knock ppl off.. Yes physically he can't really hurt zoro via sword fight but he can def throw stone fists etc as distractions etc ...)
Trebol is tricky if u don't know what he does and his snot is very sticky and diamanté ability while stupid looking at first is pretty cool trick as well .... I don't think zoro can handle all those abilities at once and ppl say mid diff
... Hell u seen how long it took him to take out pica fully -/-
Trebol is tricky if u don't know what he does and his snot is very sticky and diamanté ability while stupid looking at first is pretty cool trick as well .... I don't think zoro can handle all those abilities at once and ppl say mid diff
... Hell u seen how long it took him to take out pica fully -/-
Running away and delaying the inevitable doesnt add to difficulty of the fight, maybe if it ever worked out in picas favor by landing a hit like in usopp vs that fish guy in arlong arc, but it never did work that way for pica.... but i do agree with the rest.
Zoro wins no doubt about it. The difficulty depends on how long they can prolong it but you can guarantee he is not gonna fall to these 3.
You're lying to yourself if you see these 3 being able to actually put Zoro down.
You're lying to yourself if you see these 3 being able to actually put Zoro down.
The only reason Zoro won against Pica was because he was in statue form. He narrowed the space down Pica could be in and forced him out.
When it's 3 against 1 Pica will never be in his statue because that thing is useless to fight against 1 person. He will be in the ground the entire time.
Zoro has shown that he wasn't able to counter that, he could only block and dodge until Pica decided to come out.
So pica being in the ground absolutely adds difficulty, because while he fires charlestone for Zoro to cut, he also is balancing on a flag like surface and dodging Trebol's sticky stuff that is fast enough to hit a fairy.
Zoro (and Luffy too) is an idiot when it comes to fighting ability users, it always takes him a long time to figure out what is going on and he doesn't beat it by being smart, he always beats it by relying on strength. But there is no way that he can deal with three tricky abilities at the same time. It is a matter of time before Trebol hits him and then it is all over.
Even Law and Luffy had difficulty with hurting Trebol, so it's stupid to think that Zoro comes in and clears it 3 vs 1.
WoldOfFingo
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Doffy's crew bar Vergo and Pica were all weak as shjit with fodder endurance. Zoro just can't lose this battle. Any M3 would fodderize those weaklings. Pica can delay the inevitable a bit, but that's all.
chopstickchakra
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A lot of people seem to forget or ignore the fact that Zoro chopped up Pica's Golem really easily once he decided to do that, but he waited on doing that so long because it was over top the city so he was trying to end it without having to go that far.
"takes special skills to actually cut him, haki won't do it since he is paramecia." I need you to explain the logic behind this one. Why would him being paramecia stop haki from affecting him? Garp used haki on Luffy to bypass his paramecia defense. You're not making sense with this argument. Also it doesn't take special skill it just takes knowing the slime body isn't his real body. If Zoro slashed away all the slime body he'd find the real body same as Law did.
Skull Knight
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Bro Pre Timeskip injured, Tired Zoro fought & defeated all those monkeys who were imitating him.
If I remember properly he fought all night & next morning he asked Mihawk to train him.
Post Timeskip current Zoro will defeat them mid-high diff.
No wait a minute you're putting it backwards. That Zoro is able to slash the golem easy is obvious. But that also was his only shot because he could corner him in stone.
So Zoro didn't decide to wait, at the moment he did that it was his only opportunity to do so. As long as Pica was in the ground or in the castle Zoro wasn't able to corner him and force him out. And like I said before Pica would never come out in a 3 vs 1 fight because his golem would be useless.
As for the second part. haki bypasses the abilities of fruit users. So yes that means a logia lava guy can be cut and a rubber man can be punched. but the slime on trebol is not part of his body so cutting him with haki wouldn't make a difference. This was shown by Luffy and Usopp. Law demonstrated that you needed a different kind of strategy to counter his mucus body by using radio knife. So unless you know where to cut CoA haki won't add anything you would have more use for CoO.
chopstickchakra
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If there was nobody underneath to worry about crushing Zoro could/would have just cut the stone to pieces the exact same way the fight ended, it just would have happened sooner. Zoro was fighting that fight trying not to cut the Golem to pieces until it became the last option available to win.
He would come out after his team was defeated. Let's not try and pretend Diamante would put up a tough fight just because he's an exec. His flutter fruit didn't affect a one legged man's balance it wouldn't/shouldn't disrupt Zoro's. He was weaker than Kyros also and despite being a legend in the arena we don't really have anything showing a strength level, even Rebecca was undefeated in the arena so it's not the best qualifier for strength levels.
That leaves Trebol, the only difficulty in fighting him is hitting his real body within his slime body. Law showed us his slime can be cut away exposing his real body. All Zoro would have to do is cut him enough times quick enough to find the body. It wouldn't be the easiest task but it's not impossible as you make it sound. Armament could help his sword from getting caught in the slime also.
oh well if it's simple like that 1,2,3 slash bash and Zoro's done. Now I see how he would win a three vs one. Good thing Oda always make him struggle more against single enemies to stretch all those chapters because if he would be fighting 3 at the same time he would finish much sooner.
such logic much wow.
oh and law never cut away the slime, it fell off after he slashed his real body and Kyros was on his ass a couple of times. Not to shit on your rock solid argumentation. But just so you know.
Ah so Pica also ignores Zoro when he is off doing other stuff ? Sanzen Sekai only works when he can corner Pica in a piece of stone to force him to come out. And Zoro didn't understand the way he was moving around in stone after they had fought for a while. So why do you take it for granted that he knows how to beat him now.
You're setting everything up in favor of Zoro, while the more more likely scenario is that Pica is in the ground shooting spikes up while Trebol is hitting him with his beta launcher.
It's so unrealistic to think that Trebol won't be able to his Zoro once. Laaw, Luffy, Usopp, Robin, fairies all got hit. Some of them are faster and smaller targets than Zoro are and then diamante is not even thrown into the mix.
Zoro had his hands full with Pica, he will get tagged by 3 executives.
You were also replying to toshizo but I didn't say zoro would win. Besides that pica was in the golem multiple times trying to stop luffy and zoro from advancing on the bull as well as trying to stop Rebecca and usopp and robin. I would consider that the same as using it against a single target. Playing hide and seek in the ground still doesn't add difficulty though unless it actually help a his fight. It would in a 3v1 but my argument was against zoro vs pica 1v1 being high diff. It didn't help pics at all except to not get one shotted immediately.
chopstickchakra
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Is that what you took away? Poor comprehension. I said if there weren't people under the Golem the fight with Pica would have ended quicker because he would have cut the Golem to pieces trapping Pica sooner than he did needing to protect the town.
Radio Knife cut the slime into chunks and he cut it away in pieces revealing Trebols true body much like Zoro cut away the stone revealing Pica. Armament would work on the slime in a similar manner to Laws electric.
Kyros fell because he had to battle as well, but still a one legged man had a mildly difficult time standing, oooh.
Honestly people forget trebol can get cut by zoro using haki maybe without it but I'm sure he'd cut threw trebol's defence hell dragon twister should actually get rid of him diamante seems cocky so he might have died first trying to show his skills and we all know pica isn't a challenge
That's not true because it was only till late into the fight that Zoro understood the trick to his devil fruit. So it's a little convenient to assume he knows what to do for the sake of this battle. He would still struggle to find the weakness and get blasted by Trebol in the process.
KingHashirama
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not much but what damage did Zoro did to Pica before Pica decided to come out of the stone ?
Like I said Zoro has to take initiative and figure the fruit out. Pica can stay in the ground and shoot hist spikes up while Trebol sticks him to the ground with his slime. And his slime is fast and precise enough to hit a running fairy and gear 2 Luffy.
Soooo what is Zoro gonna do when he is stuck on the ground again ?