Sasuke wouldve lost 2 both Neji Or Lee(Uninjured) in exams PT 1

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That makes perfect sense. CE naruto was not faster than gaara's sand yet fast enough to stop neji, CE sasuke is equal to base lee speed, while VOTE1 sasuke never bothered to use base lee speed against naruto except when using curse mark.

Why would i listen to ur nonsense when scan after scan clearly tells people with sense that neji's reactions >>>> lee's speed which is why he never beat him , heres gai sayin that lee's "answer" for beatin neji's reaction is gates meanin his base=sasuke level speed was not never enough.


In regards to the flawed point about gaara's sand catchin Chakra mode naruto , read my above post u quoted and stop pickin lil parts out of it while at the same time not counterin anything , i already adressed it in that same post yet u fail to come up with a logical response of ur own while sayin the same shit i already countered.

Again , the mode used against gaara lasted only a second and vanished before naruto even made his leap to gaara , meanin wat dashed and was caught by the sand was only a amped version of base naruto , same base naruto then overpowered the sand with ease.

Against neji the mode was sustained and continued to amp his stats , we also kno from the war that kakashi without cloak but with kyubi chakra still running through him <<<<<<< kakashi with a fresh cloak , same here with naruto.

Naruto lost his cloak in seconds meanin his boost was only a short burst of power to bust the sand at his feet , if naruto lost his cloak seconds after transformin against neji , would u claim that he had more chakra /speed /perks / power or evem equal to wat was canonically used against neji and sustained long enough to actually be useful ??? kids plz...
 
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Still havent seen a Neji supporter tackle the sharingan precog argument properly. Not surprising tbh. Nekkas think byakugan has sharingan abilities.
 

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Still havent seen a Neji supporter tackle the sharingan precog argument properly. Not surprising tbh. Nekkas think byakugan has sharingan abilities.



People have tackled it, you just failed to read it.
 

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People have tackled it, you just failed to read it.

not really the argument 64 palms = a single chidori strike speed is laughable especially when you need superior foot speed and advanced striking to even utilize the tech. Sasuke can read Nejis movements and realize when rotation is being used as well. Neji barely kept up with Kyuubi chakra Narutos movements and relied on rotation instead of gentle fist to counter.
 

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not really the argument 64 palms = a single chidori strike speed is laughable especially when you need superior foot speed and advanced striking to even utilize the tech. Sasuke can read Nejis movements and realize when rotation is being used as well. Neji barely kept up with Kyuubi chakra Narutos movements and relied on rotation instead of gentle fist to counter.


I don't see how one single chidori is equal to 64 strikes in mere seconds but sure.
 

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I don't see how one single chidori is equal to 64 strikes in mere seconds but sure.

Not even sure where Hyuuga fans get these imaginary numbers along with other wild accusations but meh.
 

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Why would i listen to ur nonsense when scan after scan clearly tells people with sense that neji's reactions >>>> lee's speed which is why he never beat him , heres gai sayin that lee's "answer" for beatin neji's reaction is gates meanin his base=sasuke level speed was not never enough.


In regards to the flawed point about gaara's sand catchin Chakra mode naruto , read my above post u quoted and stop pickin lil parts out of it while at the same time not counterin anything , i already adressed it in that same post yet u fail to come up with a logical response of ur own while sayin the same shit i already countered.

Again , the mode used against gaara lasted only a second and vanished before naruto even made his leap to gaara , meanin wat dashed and was caught by the sand was only a amped version of base naruto , same base naruto then overpowered the sand with ease.

Against neji the mode was sustained and continued to amp his stats , we also kno from the war that kakashi without cloak but with kyubi chakra still running through him <<<<<<< kakashi with a fresh cloak , same here with naruto.

Naruto lost his cloak in seconds meanin his boost was only a short burst of power to bust the sand at his feet , if naruto lost his cloak seconds after transformin against neji , would u claim that he had more chakra /speed /perks / power or evem equal to wat was canonically used against neji and sustained long enough to actually be usefull ???? kids plz...

Because I keep telling you 2T sharingan can read neji's movements. it completely makes up for that. the reason lee has to use 5gates is to outspeed neji from touching(never says react) him completely(like guy says in your link) because he cannot see the movements coming do to how fast it is. if he did he wouldn't need 5gates. sasuke on the other hand CAN see it with 2T, just like he could see rock lee's speed. however the issue at the time was that sasuke was too slow to move his body. now CE sasuke after "mastering lee's taijutsu and base speed", that sasuke with 2T sharingan can SEE neji's fast pokes but thanks to his 1month training, he can move his body appropriately to react to it.
 
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LOL log off, you're drunk. TUI = typing under influence.

2T sharingan sasuke > neji


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Not even sure where Hyuuga fans get these imaginary numbers along with other wild accusations but meh.


Not even sure where Uchiha fans get these imaginary numbers along with other wild accusations but meh.

OT: Lee curb stomp both 3t+CM2 Sasuage !
 

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My goodness this section is bad. If it requires for Lee to use an untouchable high-speed combo in the 4th & 5th gate to defeat Neji, then CE Sasuke has zero chance at defeating him with base Lee's speed and taijutsu level. All of his attempts get easily parried.
 

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Yet it lost to something as trivial as this.
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Yet again I've already disaproved someone who made this same argument refer to my quote here.

Well your argument are clearly flawed if you are reffering to this scan... It didn't fracture neji defense, instead Naruto gets knocked out which leaves strained on Neji after using kaiton.

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Again Naruto didn't broke Neji defense until you proof otherwise. The underground was cause by the impact of Naruto raw power colliding with Kaiten leaking the chakra out which effect the stadium... If Naruto broke the Kaiten, then we get a clear scan panel of that, but nope instead it only shows some blast after that impact through smokes.

Kaiten can be breached after utilizing for long period of time,the more you lose your control on kaiten considering it requires mastery of high precise chakra control and it's high level technique from Main Family .
 

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Naruto own word didn't imply anything since his training with Jiriaya even BEFORE when fought with Haku or Orochimaru and the fact remains is that Naruto healed his internal damage and restore his closed point which Neji strucked and Naruto was coughing Blood so you don't see how badly his injuries was But you assumed Naruto used more on Final valley because of his EXTERNAL injury looks serious .

It wasn't much obvious because Kidomaru attacks are transonic speed, and Neji can react to that CM2 speed with his sensory Byakugan.



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This demonstrates his reaction speed. He was able to react to a transonic arrow.


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Chapter 197: Pages 5-6: This demonstrates his movement speed. Neji was able to cover that distance before Kidomaru even hit the ground.



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Chapter 194: Pages 2-3: This demonstrates his attack speed. He has the ability to launch 64 consecutive attacks with millisecond intervals.

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Even after thoasands of spiders that constantly attacking, Neji was not only able to react but also he was able to counter with the speed of gentlefist.

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In other word, Neji can react to Naruto foot speed, there's a reason why it took lee 5th gate to compete Neji
How does someone's word of the person using the chakra that said it's more than last time doesn't imply anything? VOTE chakra > vs Neji > Haku. Neji tried killing Hinata she coughed up blood too but Neji wasn't really trying to kill Naruto. That point is nothing.

Those scans only show Neji's Byakugan near 360 degrees vision of course he reacted to it with that field of vision and even then he could only able to barely deflect it. Also that anime version Neji couldn't even continue doing that.

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Because I keep telling you 2T sharingan can read neji's movements. it completely makes up for that. the reason lee has to use 5gates is to outspeed neji from touching(never says react) him completely(like guy says in your link) because he cannot see the movements coming do to how fast it is. if he did he wouldn't need 5gates. sasuke on the other hand CAN see it with 2T, just like he could see rock lee's speed. however the issue at the time was that sasuke was too slow to move his body. now CE sasuke after "mastering lee's taijutsu and base speed", that sasuke with 2T sharingan can SEE neji's fast pokes but thanks to his 1month training, he can move his body appropriately to react to it.

And i keep tellin u to prove that sasuke's t2 which failed to help him react to base naruto's clones on the rooftop along with gettin his ass sent bck to the floor in his cm against sakon twice can react to someone who's strikin speed and cqc skills are way superior to those who canonically bested his 2t in cqc..
Sasuke cant react to all neji's jab because he failed to react to people who are way below him in all area's of cqc.


I told u to start usin ur head , in order for rock lee "outspeed" neji , he oviously has to bypass his reactions which is why neji was always >>> wieghtless lee in first place , unless u can explain why lee would need gates if he could already blitz neji with his sasuke level speed , the whole reason why lee need and "untouchable" answer to beatim neji's reaction.

Not to mention neji was showed along with kakashi to be followin lees movements with the byakugan.
 
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Well your argument are clearly flawed if you are reffering to this scan... It didn't fracture neji defense, instead Naruto gets knocked out which leaves strained on Neji after using kaiton.

Naruto was knocked out yet had the energy to dig a tunnel and land an upper-cut on Neji?

Right ... Neji could hardly move. Naruto was running around after the battle. Neji sustained more damage than Naruto did, therefore, it was clear that Naruto negated more of the attack than Neji did.
 

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And i keep tellin u to prove that sasuke's t2 which failed to help him react to base naruto's clones on the rooftop along with gettin his ass sent bck to the floor in his cm against sakon twice can react to someone who's strikin speed and cqc skills are way superior to those who canonically bested his 2t in cqc..
Sasuke cant react to all neji's jab because he failed to react to people who are way below him in all area's of cqc.


I told u to start usin ur head , in order for rock lee "outspeed" neji , he oviously has to bypass his reactions which is why neji was always >>> wieghtless lee in first place , unless u can explain why lee would need gates if he could already blitz neji with his sasuke level speed , the whole reason why lee need and "untouchable" answer to beatim neji's reaction.

Not to mention neji was showed along with kakashi to be followin lees movements with the byakugan.


Hyuuga wankers actually believe Neji speed > lee unweighted based on what he said. Smh.

Lee made a statement, that's what he "thought".

For all you know, using gates was his answer to Neji's 64 palms to unblock his tenketsu.

We do have definite proof via an actual battle(Neji vs Naruto), that Neji barely started kaiten against Naruto. And lee speed > Naruto. So get off his ****.
 

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You guys can make a thread and I'll easily debate you on it, just be sure to quote this message if you do.
 

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Hyuuga wankers actually believe Neji speed > lee unweighted based on what he said. Smh.

Lee made a statement, that's what he "thought".

For all you know, using gates was his answer to Neji's 64 palms to unblock his tenketsu.

We do have definite proof via an actual battle(Neji vs Naruto), that Neji barely started kaiten against Naruto. And lee speed > Naruto. So get off his ****.

Foolish response as expected smh.

I said neji's "attacking" speed and by extension his reaction speed >>> lee's unwieghted speed which is why kishi stressed the fact that lee needed the gates to bypass this advantage by havin lee an gai cement this as fact , that he needed the gates since his sasuke level was not enough.

Lee's and gai's statements were wat they knew as fact , not thoughts , only in the minds fools/ and we kno that the gates requires chakra , madara saw gai's chakra lead to his heart and died out close to his end , 64 palms stops all that from happenin u fool , so we hav u tryin to create fan-fics in order to avoid the simply fact kishi made clear , that neji's reaction's are more than capable of handling sasuke's lee level speed..

Do u even hav proof that lees speed > CE naruto's nb4 u claim the mode used against gaara to be the exact same mode used against neji , read my above post ur weak ass failed to counter.


I guess it was easy for u to miss the fact that naruto sustained his mode against gaara for only a moment and was in and out of the mode before he even launched at gaara , yet claim that this mode is as potent as the one used against neji..

Den this fool calls me a wanker lol.
 
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Naruto was knocked out yet had the energy to dig a tunnel and land an upper-cut on Neji?

Right ... Neji could hardly move. Naruto was running around after the battle. Neji sustained more damage than Naruto did, therefore, it was clear that Naruto negated more of the attack than Neji did.

Naruto had enough energy because he has Kyuubi chakra in his reserve that restore some damage due to his Uzumaki bloodline, plus where Naruto was knocked out already breakdown the area which makes it automatically easier for Naruto to dig. Kiaten gives strong push but it's not even deadly compare to jyuuken. Kaiten was never meant to be offense anyway.
If Neji use the opportunity to hit naruto with gentle fist once more instead then Naruto would easily lose his access with KM and he will surely die.

You claimed Neji sustain the damage but the question is from what. All I see is that Neji was being pressured by the amount of power Naruto used which effected some amount of destruction in the exam and Neji had USED so many rotation it causes him more exhausted strained from using it.

(Which according to DB, this technique can only be taught by a FEW Hyuga member ONLY in the MAIN Family which is A secret high-level Technique and its VERY HIGH Chakra control)
 
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How does someone's word of the person using the chakra that said it's more than last time doesn't imply anything? VOTE chakra > vs Neji > Haku. Neji tried killing Hinata she coughed up blood too but Neji wasn't really trying to kill Naruto. That point is nothing.

Those scans only show Neji's Byakugan near 360 degrees vision of course he reacted to it with that field of vision and even then he could only able to barely deflect it. Also that anime version Neji couldn't even continue doing that.

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Where does in VOTE stated anything about using "more kyuubi chakra", that was never stated at all as far as I remember and it's always been the same since it's the first time we've seen Naruto used it against Haku.
Neji wasn't trying to kill Hinata as well until the end of the fight, Hinata was coughing throughout this matches, your point is invalid. And you underestimate Gentlefist because even when you're holding back, it's still DEADLY.

If you strike with intent to kill, you can do so easily as the organs are situated near some of the chakra coils

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so attacking those coils can cause fatal damage. Moreover, the more chakra you input, the more damage you would cause, since you are literally flowing chakra into the opponent. Neji clearly wasn't trying, he just keeps hitting her because Hinata is pushing herself more, and she was on the ground coughing some blood which Neji has inserted some chakra into her. Some chakra point are blocked and she could'nt move well, as well as she can't use her gentlefist properly while she's barely standing. Still pretty deadly.
Neji could easily kill her in the beginning of the match if he wanted to excel so much chakra onto his gentlefist .

Well there's no way Naruto could react to that many spiders and counter every single one. "Neji Barely" are bound to happen when you're being attacked by that limitless amount of spiders and then another arrows proceed to attack giving the opportunity to strike Neji while the spider is at it.
The difference between Naruto and Neji is obvious. Naruto has foot speed Kyuubi mode which grants him his chance to out maneuver Kidomaru, but if Naruto by chance was in Neji possesion where so much stuff is coming at you while kidomaru was hiding in the bush at 50M+ without knowing the source of the direction he's attacking from, then Naruto kyuubi mode has no way to counter every single spiders/arrows, and he will be in tougher situation then Neji .
 
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