Then your "he needed Ameno to escape Kinshiki so he gets wrecked by Madara" nonsense argument obviously doesn't work, which is what I'm saying. Which is what obviously flew over your head. Referencing their fight to downplay Sasuke makes no sense when Sasuke didn't even use a fraction of his power against Kinshiki.I didn't say Sasuke's full power is Ameno, I said "one of his most effective skills" and this is so, since Ameno saved him from trouble a few times. I wasn't referring to raw power or whatever you were thinking about.
How much pressure was Naruto doing to Madara's limbo with his clones? Not enough to be a danger to Madara, that's certain. I called Kinshiki "fodder" not because he's really a fodder: he isn't. What I was meaning was that he should be a fodder at Sasuke's eyes, and I didn't expect the ultra powerful invincible badass guy people is wanking around to be that undermined by one who on the chart should have been at maximum able to clean Sasuke's shoes.
MOLOT: Anyway I have to thank you 'cause you encouraged me to take in hand the manga and search what big power the guys could have lost and found that they basically didn't get that weaker after they fought. Sincere apologies for my sins so![]()
And Madara still wrecks.
Who cares? He was fighting them on par. Whether or not he was dangerous to Madara himself in the long run is irrelevant.