Custom Element Submition and Custom Jutsus

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the thing is, no one will do that. However if it's made a rule, ppl wouldnt quit rp because of that and would fight with those rules. It makes things fair, simple and realistic.

That's forcing people to do something they don't want to do all because of one man's idealistic dream :|

It's unfair and against what the people want. True, the people don't always know what they want, but you cannot trade idealism for the effects of reality, because unless an idealist has people behind him proportional to the effect of that idealism, then everything would go up in smoke. If people won't make those rules in battle, then leave them be. It's their choice. Despite whichever would be for the better, this system allows the freedom to do what you prefer and freedom is something that is more valuable than any system of RP could ever produce. O_O
 

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i understand your point.
im not forcing anyone to do so. it's just a way of stopping the problem we are discussing.

edit: ''this system allows the freedom to do what you prefer and freedom is something that is more valuable than any system of RP could ever produce. O_O''

True, but it seems the rp system is trading quality for quantity =/ that's why i dont agree with ppl using all those abilities and etc. That's like saying the objective of the rp is to attract the most members possible without giving them a good rp
 
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Also by saying "if I did it using only one element, how can there be a CE of that" you're indirectly implying that everyone who knows water and earth can create wood and everyone that knows water and wind can create ice. Yes that's what you're actually saying as you say that because you know a specific element you should be able to use it at its uttermost limits, in the case that you would know wind and water so well, it should be easy for a lot of people just to create ice.


No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Earth can make Mud, no Water required. If mud is used in the Manga, why is it a Custom Element? And that special chakra that makes the element fuse in a special certain way, is something that passes down generation from generation. IT'S A KG
And I'm completely against treating CE as KG =/ One it's not true as Shodaime made wood which wasn't a KG. I know there's a difference between a KG and treating like a KG, but the concequences are completely messed up. Do you even know as to what the would result? Every bio should be rechecked as a lot of bio's would suddenly be breaking the rules. Not to mention that the older members, who have the CE, would see things they build up for months instantly crumble and new members would never be able to use it like them. Who's going to be happy? This would lead to an unorganized mess.
Not to mention for what? What good would it do?

Wood is a KG. Ice is a KG. Anything that makes chakra fuse in a way that normal ninjas can't fuse it's a KG. KG aren't just Eye techniques. It's something that takes a certain blood to use.

When people specify in certain techniques/elements, it's logical that they would make a CE of it or something, just like the Shodaime made wood. Every CE needs to have strengths and weaknesses, otherwise they won't be approved. So I see no reason to start treating them like KG.

Mainly the CE have other CE as weaknesses. What are we suppose to do against that? And your last statement made no sense. Why should we eat lemon if we're wearing white shirts?

PS: I would advise some people to keep a low profile. The RP-system is almost like an organic system, it has evolved over time, both in good and bad ways and the result of this is that you just can't instantly start making any changes as the base remains the same. Some people should realize that they're the ones who created that base and are now complaining about it o_O They are some people who really can't appreciate this kind of behavior, especially as I mentioned the RP-system always evolves and that in the past you maybe knew it well, but that doesn't mean you do it now. That has been proven with the extremely pointless discussion about OP-jutsu's.

How can it evolve if you don't accept any suggestion?! Are you the only ones that can upgrade the system? We can't be old members because then we should have thought that when we were new. And we can't be new members because we didn't knew how it was back there. Its a never ending circle!
 
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โ˜… Rei โ˜…;2015164 said:
I will ignore all the flaming and spaming and the fact that this thread is not in the right section.
May I ask, though, where exactly were you 3 and what exactly were you doing when things "started going wrong on the Bureau"?
I mean, since you know Naruto RP so well and you have so many ideas about it why haven't you suggested them..let's say 4 months ago?

I've been making suggestions for the RP since early 2009. Most of them were good, though they were too radical for some. From that post, you sound as if I didn't try to help NB at all before I departed, which is wrong. I always made sure you knew where I stood when it came to certain issues regarding the RP. I'm not saying you didn't listen when I stated my opinions, it's just that nothing really changed until I left.

And four months ago, I was trying to help another site run smoothly. But, as you know, that didn't work out. I don't see what that has to do with this thread.

Ehm no. I think it's more like people are stepping outside the bounderies of the elements when making custom jutsu's and less like that CE are starting to take away the properties of the elements =/

First and for all making a custom element is something almost symbolic. You can't be called a true RPer if you haven't made your own CE. Whether people have this feeling consciously or subconsciously I don't know, but it's a fact that CE have a certain attraction to people. Originally the CE started with reasonable normal things, however the number of RPers increases and "normal" CE aren't unlimited. The result if this was something that could have been predicted from the moment CE came into existence as it's a logical consequence. So people start searching more and more detailed.

Does that make their elements any less a real CE? No, then you don't understand the elements you use. If you say fire is fire and water is water you absolutely don't know anything at all about the elements =/

I certainly wouldn't say that all the elements are true elements. There are some where I too have my doubts about, however most of them can still be concidered real CE.

Blue fire, white fire, sun fire...yes they can all be placed in the category of "fire". However a lot of people in this thread are actually at the point of seeing them all as one and the same, then you're just being ignorant because that's the same as saying that all humans are the same, that everyone could run as fast as Usain Bolt or swim as fast as Micheal Phelps or dribble like Lionl Messi as they are all "humans". They are all considered fire because they share some identical aspects, but they aren't the same as there are still a lot of differences too. Sun Fire is made completely different than normal fire, blue and white fire have completely different aspects too. The proof is in the manga: everyone uses normal fire, never blue or white as they're different. Another thing I need to add to this is that Amaterasu is also fire, still no one is complaining about it, no one has trouble seeing it as something completely different. You need an MS to create it, just like you need for Sun fire etc. specific requirements, which makes it a CE.

Same goes for metal. You can go check all the metals in the Periodic Table and say that they are all metals, but there are still differences between them. Some are extremely flexible, others are very heat-resistant etc.

Also by saying "if I did it using only one element, how can there be a CE of that" you're indirectly implying that everyone who knows water and earth can create wood and everyone that knows water and wind can create ice. Yes that's what you're actually saying as you say that because you know a specific element you should be able to use it at its uttermost limits, in the case that you would know wind and water so well, it should be easy for a lot of people just to create ice.

I won't deny that there are some "odd" CE, however around 90% or more are good. As I mentioned before it's more like people are stepping outside the bounderies of the elements when making custom jutsu's and less like that CE are starting to take away the properties of the elements. In the manga lightning is pretty much shooting lightningblasts or things along those lines. When you start using lightning in such a way it isn't actual lightning anymore you can call it a CE, even if it's only based on one element. For example Kirabi had once a lightning custom with which he used lightning to start messing with ions so that he could transform one element into another. In theory that's possible, however do you still call that lightning? No, it was just another variation of the Radioactivity-CE.
I don't know what your custom was, though people have the urge for searching more and more original customs, which results in people starting use the elements in completely different ways that they're actually making CE and often come into the territory of already existing CE. Who's then in fault? Probably both, though saying what you're saying is just complete wrong.

And I'm completely against treating CE as KG =/ One it's not true as Shodaime made wood which wasn't a KG. I know there's a difference between a KG and treating like a KG, but the concequences are completely messed up. Do you even know as to what the would result? Every bio should be rechecked as a lot of bio's would suddenly be breaking the rules. Not to mention that the older members, who have the CE, would see things they build up for months instantly crumble and new members would never be able to use it like them. Who's going to be happy? This would lead to an unorganized mess.
Not to mention for what? What good would it do?

When people specify in certain techniques/elements, it's logical that they would make a CE of it or something, just like the Shodaime made wood. Every CE needs to have strengths and weaknesses, otherwise they won't be approved. So I see no reason to start treating them like KG.

Personally there are some suspicious CE and some odd cases, however most of them are OK and nothing should be changed. I find this almost a case of "changing evil be evil". If you would take away some CE based on one element you may kill that threat, but than you create the threat of people making extreme ridiculous jutsu's. I find this thread nearly as pointless as the one of the OP jutsu's.

PS: I would advise some people to keep a low profile. The RP-system is almost like an organic system, it has evolved over time, both in good and bad ways and the result of this is that you just can't instantly start making any changes as the base remains the same. Some people should realize that they're the ones who created that base and are now complaining about it o_O They are some people who really can't appreciate this kind of behavior, especially as I mentioned the RP-system always evolves and that in the past you maybe knew it well, but that doesn't mean you do it now. That has been proven with the extremely pointless discussion about OP-jutsu's.

Holy crap. :|
 

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may i make a fairly simple point?

people here are complaining not only about being able to use CE's, but also on the fact that 5 elements may be used.

who are the only main ninja's who can technically use all 5 elements?

that's right! pein and SO6P.

what would happen if you couldn't use all elements? everyone would pick those and go through the tests! you can't get rid of that fact.
 

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may i make a fairly simple point?

people here are complaining not only about being able to use CE's, but also on the fact that 5 elements may be used.

who are the only main ninja's who can technically use all 5 elements?

that's right! pein and SO6P.

what would happen if you couldn't use all elements? everyone would pick those and go through the tests! you can't get rid of that fact.


And Kakuzu!

Obviously if the rules changes bio tests would get changed too. As of now the Pein bio test is absurdly hard, and thats why almost nobody has a Pein bio. So really thats not an issue as it would be one of the perks of having the most powerful character seen thus far in the Manga.
 

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may i make a fairly simple point?

people here are complaining not only about being able to use CE's, but also on the fact that 5 elements may be used.

who are the only main ninja's who can technically use all 5 elements?

that's right! pein and SO6P.

what would happen if you couldn't use all elements? everyone would pick those and go through the tests! you can't get rid of that fact.

I don't agree. I mean noobs exist and will allways exist. I doesn't mean EVERYONE will want to use those bios. Personally, I don't even like them.

I agree with the second part though. There are metal that are more flexible, other more heat or lightning conductors, but in the end they'll still be metal. But that's the minor thing, since the group of the metals is extremely vast, so it's only natural they have different properties. The Fire Caliburn list, on the other hand, are all the same. They're simply a more powerfull fire. Do we need them all just because people need CE to be someone?
 

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Poor Liliana. :(

Everybody is attacking her with opinion over a simple suggestion. Why can't people just note that as a worthy suggestion and not debate it.

Because the system is broken. And it always will be. But why not improve the existing system as much as we can to make it tailored for everybody?
 

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I don't agree. I mean noobs exist and will allways exist. I doesn't mean EVERYONE will want to use those bios. Personally, I don't even like them.

I agree with the second part though. There are metal that are more flexible, other more heat or lightning conductors, but in the end they'll still be metal. But that's the minor thing, since the group of the metals is extremely vast, so it's only natural they have different properties. The Fire Caliburn list, on the other hand, are all the same. They're simply a more powerfull fire. Do we need them all just because people need CE to be someone?

it isn't an attack at you, what elias said makes me feel that's what it sounded like.

as soon as pein was introduced properly, lots of noobs suddenly became pein, gaining everything that comes with being pein. i just feel that if we got limited on jutsu elements and such they would have a counter to just about everything and there'd be a ratio of around one pein to every other rper (excluding the more experienced rpers who wish to be themselves.)

i personally only ever used water wind and ice, however with this war and being kazekage i no longer can, if i come up against for example roku's sunfire... i feel it'd be stipulated to be stronger than most water moves, and ice, therefore putting me at a major disadvantage.
 

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"You are allowed to posses 2 KG in both your biographies under the restrictions you will see in the below post."

just to correct your post

to me that reads as 2 in each

well its one bio with one KG and one bio with another KG
 

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I agree completely and wholeheartedly. CE's like Mud and Hellfire shouldn't be allowed. However, if a CE such as Hellfire (which is technically a ramped up version of fire) exhibits qualities that its base element does not exhibit, then I think that CE should be allowed.

Well said, I totally agree, and reps.

(And I can't stand that Mud is a CE ><)
 

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I agree completely and wholeheartedly. CE's like Mud and Hellfire shouldn't be allowed. However, if a CE such as Hellfire (which is technically a ramped up version of fire) exhibits qualities that its base element does not exhibit, then I think that CE should be allowed.

Well said, I totally agree, and reps.

(And I can't stand that Mud is a CE ><)

Me neither. That's why I'm turning them into regular earth jutsus.

(Yes, Mud is partly mine. But give me a break, it was made a year ago. >_>)
 

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>.> I might be late to the party, but I read all of the posts up to now. Yes, =/ Even Cali's. lol

Anyways, my opinion on the suggestion is that it is nice to know that people are noticing it. I have this happen to be before and I must say it is frustrating, but I have been RPing for a while (good or not doesn't matter) and I understand how things kinda evolved. I'm not vet, but from the last thread that NU talked about the CJ can be shown for here as well.

Cali stated a great point that all CE that are there, except a few, are just fully evolved versions of the basic elements.

Take this for an example, Fire can be used in multiple way correct? Well, people that practice hard or focus on that specific aspect to make it better makes that used to be basic building block "Fire" into a new and improved specially owned type of fire like "Dark Fire". Now I'm not a fan of CEs, in fact I hate all of them, but they are just CJs that people came up with to work with the hard times against other strong fighters.

You must know that human nature in a game or anything for that matter has the drive to be better, stronger, faster, or anything to make you on top. It's called competition and when you need the upper-hand, or need to catch up you work on something that others look away from.

I am also completely against the CE is a KG act that is going on here.

To put this simply, if I want to make a custom jutsu... should I give up my kg for it? Then there wouldn't be a point of KGs.

Fire, earth, wind, water, lightning... They are basic elements and there are limits on what you can do with them. That is why CEs are regulated stricter than before. Since there wasn't so many CEs when it first came to NB the limits and strictness was lower, but because NB has evolved numerous times after that the regulators have also made it harder.

Basic elements, Custom Elements, and Custom jutsus are all the same, but the Customs is what show what people can do when they focus on a specific attribute of an element.

@ Alucard- Many people want CJs, CEs, and ect and that will never stop, but there will be a limit to a person being able to create CJs and CEs since Ideas are possibly too limited and being too stretched. I agree that most people want to be OP, but if you want to fight in a specific way, just do it. I always wanted to force all battles I go into a specific battle, but a lot of people want more options than special battles. So, you compromise and find a middle for both fighters to enjoy.
 

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well its one bio with one KG and one bio with another KG

people seriously need to reword things...

why not put, "for each bio you are allowed 1KG, this may be a different KG on each bio"

rather than saying that... how it's worded makes it sound like 2 per bio... and people who read it, should see where i'm coming from :/
 

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I understand that. But if that's going to be your answer for everything, then why bother creating a section for suggestions? The thing is, there are lots of Ce, and they're starting feel less and less elemental. But even though this is flawed, my point with this thread wasn't even that.

My point was that people were creating elements out of techniques that could be done with one single element. Ad since they have the patent of the said element, other people that try to use the element with the properties used in the manga, can't. Some custom started to be declined because there was the element already in the manga. Then why can't these jutsus be declined aswell?

Mud, Oil, Gas, Sticky Liquid, Sticky Mud, etc are techniques that can be done with a single chakra, and so we shouldn't be restricted just because some ramdom Kage (being a spammer or a worthy rper) decide to create a CE out of something that shouldn't be one. And this should be applied to the effects and characteristics of a chakra. If we can make a certain chakra act a certain way and create a CJ using that, why should it be declined just because there's a CE that does that already? If that's the only characteristic of an element and can be done with a single chakra, why is it something new?

First of all, I haven't created this section and like I posted earlier it is indeed the wrong one. But let's just skip that.
My answer to everything? You haven't even seen me replying properly yet to your suggestion, but let's just skip that too and let me give you the answer you ask for.
My answer is that your suggestion in way off proportion.

I tried to submit a lightning technique but then I was told that there was a Custom Element that already had the same properties. If I did it using only one element, how can there be a CE of that? I've come to realize that these so called CE are starting to take away the physical demonstrations of basic elements. For example, Earth Chakra can also create Mud, but when a Mud jutsu was submited, since there was Mud element already, there could be no more jutsu that use Earth chakra for Mud. How can this be possible?

"Having the same properties" doesn't mean that the CE is exactly like your jutsu. It means that the pattern of the idea you had for this jutsu you wanted to submit was already submitted by someone else; only he or she decided to make a CE of that idea while you only chose to make a cj. So, it's not a matter of a CE based only on one element, but of an idea of what a specific element can do, if pushed further. Sadly for you, someone else thought of this before you.

"Are starting to take away the physical demonstrations of basic elements", how did this start? Was it started on NB? I highly doubt so, as it started with the manga itself. Let me give you an example. How would you characterize Amaterasu? Don't tell me that it's a KG technique cause I am asking you about the physical demonstration of it. Tell me, is it ninjutsu? Cannot be since it surpasses the physical limitations of nature. Is it a genjutsu? Nope, cause it has physical demonstrations it cannot be only an illusion. Is it a special character's ability only? Nope, since we see others using it lately, etc etc etc.
Where I am going at is, that as the manga goes on, more abilities come up and the known abilities are changing too. We have seen the Mizukage not only using 2 KGs but even burning through Sasuke's Susanoo shield while being immune to the altered acidity of the mist she creates. So, for that argument you gotta blame Kishi.

CE are suppose to be based on elemental combinations that require a special chakra something to become an entirely new element, not some basic combination or some overload of on type of chakra (Like Hell Fire, wth it's just powerfull fire, there are S ranks for some reason!)

"That require a special chakra something to become an entirely new element". Other than the type of chakra (like wind based, water based and so on), everyone has their own chakra, which however, gets categorized more. For example when you have a KG, as it is a bloodline limit and runs in your veins it gives you a special type (not ability, type) of chakra too. Or if you are a medical ninja, you have a special type of chakra too, because it's not only how you were born but how you have been trained also. As an example you can imagine here Naruto's Sage Training or Sakura when she was healing Kankuro. Naruto's ki changed so dramatically that it changed his appearance and Sakura's flow of energy was of a different color when she was removing the poison.
So, if what you say would be applied to the arena then that means that no jutsu would be the same for any of us xD Since we have custom characters and most of us special type of chakra or weapons, every jutsu would appear differently and it wouldn't do the same damage to the user and the opponent. This is the obvious reason why the CEs can't be based alone on the chakra of the user but they have to have a common basis.


I'm not saying people should be stripped of their customs, because some, like Lava, even though a normal ninja could use fire to heat earth, using the elemnt Lava the user can preform lava techniques that are automatically lava (this happens with more elements, like Steam). But if a jutsu were to create an earth structure and then heat it, it shouldn't be declined because there's a CE already. So either some of the CE that are seen being preformed with only one chakra on the Manga are taken away, or people are allowed to still submit them as a CJ.

I don't think that anyone has ever declined a CJ that heats earth. I think however that many members have tried to create somewhat lava substitutes and they were not allowed to do so by the RP mods to prevent confusion in the Arena. I know that, cause I must have personally declined at least 4 somewhat lava substitutes myself xd
So, in my opinion, the CEs are fine as they are, the mod checking them is as strict as he should be about them and as for the times when you have an idea that someone else has had before you, just move on by creating something else.

Mud, Oil, Gas, Sticky Liquid, Sticky Mud, etc are techniques that can be done with a single chakra, and so we shouldn't be restricted just because some ramdom Kage (being a spammer or a worthy rper) decide to create a CE out of something that shouldn't be one. And this should be applied to the effects and characteristics of a chakra. If we can make a certain chakra act a certain way and create a CJ using that, why should it be declined just because there's a CE that does that already? If that's the only characteristic of an element and can be done with a single chakra, why is it something new?

Hm. Odama Rasengan is Naruto's technique. If the son of Asuma, inherits his wind type chakra and becomes capable to use Odama Ransengan in the future too, doesn't mean it is his technique. It is still Naruto's technique.
However, on NB we do have to keep track of what an RPer has. The elements you used as examples are chosen only to benefit your argument. I don't see you referring to chocolate or to thermite for example. But to reply, I create gas with my poisons too for example. Doesn't mean that because someone chose to turn this into an element I can't use this ability anymore. Again I am telling you that the idea is being patterned and not the physical representation of the idea.

More posts coming up, after I make my coffee :eek:
 

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i'll use this thread and try to insist on what i've been saying for a looong time, however ppl always say to do that on the battle thread and that wont work because no one will do it =/

Allow only 3 elements + KG/CE/Other special ability, like rain or sound or something.

Each time i give that idea, everyone disagrees >_>
You may think it's too restricted, however, if you think, ppl only want to have all the opness they can and all the elements and abilities they can, because there is always someone oped than then. So, other ppl want to keep up with them. That will only make everyone to be even more oped. It's like a giant snow ball, constantly getting bigger and will never stop

With this, ppl would feel that need to be oped or have all the abilities they can have.

I know you strongly insist on this idea, but like i told you in the past it is unfair for the senior members. You for example are an RPer for more than a year. You have changed biographies at least 3-4 times. Why did you do that? Cause you got bored at a point and you wanted to try something new. We all do that and it's natural to get bored after a while.
Bur further restricting the arena is a bad idea in my point of view, cause it will only cause complains and it will make us get bored even easier. Like Pervy Sage said, you want limitations? Absolutely fine! Mention them in the beginning of the battle and good luck xD
Sorry, I just don't think it is a good idea.


I've been making suggestions for the RP since early 2009. Most of them were good, though they were too radical for some. From that post, you sound as if I didn't try to help NB at all before I departed, which is wrong. I always made sure you knew where I stood when it came to certain issues regarding the RP. I'm not saying you didn't listen when I stated my opinions, it's just that nothing really changed until I left.

And four months ago, I was trying to help another site run smoothly. But, as you know, that didn't work out. I don't see what that has to do with this thread.

It has to do with everything, Naruto. Because this is not about you or me, but about a forum with 40,000 members, with an Arena full of newcomers and an activity which increases every day. I do see your valid points but for things to change most members need to agree. Not just seniors or staff members. All of them, even the "noobs" most of you/us cuss daily. Will you explain to them why things need to change and how they need to become?

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may i make a fairly simple point?

people here are complaining not only about being able to use CE's, but also on the fact that 5 elements may be used.

who are the only main ninja's who can technically use all 5 elements?

that's right! pein and SO6P.

what would happen if you couldn't use all elements? everyone would pick those and go through the tests! you can't get rid of that fact.

I absolutely agree with you. There's no way of stopping people of having fun and I don't see why we should even try.

people seriously need to reword things...

why not put, "for each bio you are allowed 1KG, this may be a different KG on each bio"

rather than saying that... how it's worded makes it sound like 2 per bio... and people who read it, should see where i'm coming from :/

I will do that right now.

Ehm no. -jutsu's.

I think I'm in love <3
 

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โ˜… Rei โ˜…;2015195 said:
You see, Izuna, our personal differences aside, I cannot trust you nor your suggestions. Of course that is completely unprofessional of me, but I can't help but think that your intentions are not what they appear to be.
Not that you have given me any basis for that thought in these last days you have become active again, but I just see someone complaining; someone who shouldnt.

You don't need to trust me to use common logic. However, after reading everyone's post ( including Cali's big ass text xd), I see that my logic greatly differ from the logic used by the staff. But that's alright, you do whatever you want with your site. If you don't wants further suggestions, just say so. At least we won't waste our time in the future.
 

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@ Rei:

The newer members of today are the same as the newer members of yesterday (in our case, more like...well, a long time ago). They want to become as strong as possible as fast as possible, which is understandable. They don't want to keep on losing fights against the old guys, they wanna win. The only way to do so for a newcomer is to get the required amount of posts (spam) and start posting ridiculous customs to rival those of the older generations. I would know, I did the same thing.

Now that I'm older, I can clearly see some of the problems of the RP--something a newcomer wouldn't see- because I can relate to what the RP is like now to what it used to be. If we continue to run the RP like it is now (regarding customs and elements) nothing will be changed. We need to show them that making OP shizzle and abusing it isn't helping the RP. It's killing it (or what it's supposed to be). That's why I suggested my customs idea. So I'd gladly explain to them that customs (used in moderation) are fine, but using the jutsus on the jutsu list is even better. I'm not trying to kill people's fun, just make it fair for everybody and show them how much more fun it can be when you use logic. It makes it so much more worth it.
 
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You don't need to trust me to use common logic. However, after reading everyone's post ( including Cali's big ass text xd), I see that my logic greatly differ from the logic used by the staff. But that's alright, you do whatever you want with your site. If you don't wants further suggestions, just say so. At least we won't waste our time in the future.

It's not our logic that differs us. That is the last thing.
But like I said, I would accept anything that could benefit the community.

@ Rei:

The newer members of today are the same as the newer members of yesterday (in our case, more like...well, a long time ago). They want to become as strong as possible as fast as possible, which is understandable. They don't want to keep on losing fights against the old guys, they wanna win. The only way to do so for a newcomer is to get the required amount of posts (spam) and start posting ridiculous customs to rival those of the older generations. I would know, I did the same thing.

Now that I'm older, I can clearly see some of the problems of the RP--something a newcomer wouldn't see- because I can relate to what the RP is like now to what it used to be. If we continue to run the RP like it is now (regarding customs and elements) nothing will be changed. We need to show them that making OP shizzle and abusing it isn't helping the RP. It's killing it (or what it's supposed to be). That's why I suggested my customs idea. So I'd gladly explain to them that customs (used in moderation) are fine, but using the jutsus on the jutsu list is even better. I'm not trying to kill people's fun, just make it fair for everybody and show them how much more fun it can be when you use logic. It makes it so much more worth it.

And I said I agree with yours and Izuna's suggestion in your thread.
So, if you care enough to help us through it all we have to do is wait to see what the rest of the members will say.
 
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