Clearing up misconceptions!

[Illuminater]

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Madara would not have been defeated by naruto and sasuke. Sorry but kishimoto stated he couldn't find a way to kill off madara because he was so strong. So he had black zetsu do it. Madara is too strong.

Sakura is useless in high tier fights, contrary to popular opinion.

Itachi is not more powerful than Madara. Even EMS madara is stronger

As far as we know, totsuka blade must pierce the enemy in order to seal it. So no, itachi isn't going to just wack madara with the sword and win the fight.

Itachi can not speed blitz with the totsuka blade. I mean it might be possible but it's not going to catch everyone off guard. That's just simple facts.

Sasuke is not a more well written character than Naruto. That's opinion and propaganda promoted by Sasukebase.

Naruto does in indeed have a blood lusted, "no holding back" mode. All characters do. And that makes naruto the strongest

DMS Kakashi is the second strongest kage after Naruto

Hagoromo is still stronger than naruto and sasuke until we know how powerful he was in his prime. Even after thousands of years of being dead he was able to bring people back from the undead, summon back naruto and friends from ANOTHER DIMENSION, and give away a ton of senjutsu. When he was alive he created the moon, sealed the juubi with his brother. Among other things.


Sasuke's ameno was nerfed. Unnerfed ameno allows him to teleport other things. But now it seems as if he can only teleport himself. Proof it was nerfed? Well he would have soloed naruto, kaguya, and momoshiki and kinshiki EASILY if it was unnerfed. Imagine him teleport naruto into his chidori, instant win.


Naruto still has Rikudou Sage Mode.

Juubi Jinchuuriki, tree absorbed, Madara is stronger than almost anyone in the NarutoVerse

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

Goddam that piss green font is aids to my eyes

 

[Dark Sonic]

As green as lean.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Good to know that butt is bigger than your font.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Are you kaneki kun's alt?

 

[DHOH]

Nice ass

 

[Angelic.]

I see

 

[LoZelda101]

Itachi can not speed blitz with the totsuka blade. I mean it might be possible but it's not going to catch everyone off guard. That's just simple facts

and what exactly is these facts? high skilled characters always dodge attacks even from point blank yet both manga and anime depicts totsuka's initial release to hit foes with no time to dodge or react to it until it's too late. Not saying it's "instant" but i do believe you need some kind of enhanced reaction timing like sage mode, sharingan, Raikage's amplified reflexes in order to even stand a chance to dodge.

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[take it easy]

Good to know.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Interesting.

 

[Illuminater]

and what exactly is these facts? high skilled characters always dodge attacks even from point blank yet both manga and anime depicts totsuka's initial release to hit foes with no time to dodge or react to it until it's too late. Not saying it's "instant" but i do believe you need some kind of enhanced reaction timing like sage mode or sharingan in order to even stand a chance to dodge.

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There's no proof. Those are just speed blitzs. If you look at the Susanoo it's very fast in all instances. When has it taken susanoo a long time to hit something? Exactly.


Instantly grabs Danzo

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Instantly stabs Tsunade

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Grabs shin fast

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Extremely fast arrows

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Susanoo is naturally fast. But it's not god speed fast that it would instantly blitz high tier opponents. Even Jounin can dodge the blade. Sorry but in those instances both enemies were not clearly thinking.

Nagato was being controlled, and was nerfed because he was a edo tensei. Also he can't see through the dust cloud. It surprised Kabuto. Itachi needed help from naruto and killerbee in order to create that diversion.

And Orochimaru was laughing and being a general creep. Who knows how much power he was able to leak out.

I'm providing these examples not because I feel like I need too, but just to show you how stupid that idea is.

You won't ever use that in a vs battle. If you ask kishimoto I highly doubt he will say it can insta speed blitz.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I don't see EMS Madara beating the likes of Itachi, he's too crafty and holds too many one-shots.
Kakashi also didn't have DMS as Hokage.

 

[Illuminater]

I don't see EMS Madara beating the likes of Itachi, he's too crafty and holds too many one-shots.
Kakashi also didn't have DMS as Hokage.

True, I mean't DMS puts him above all kages except naruto.

And itachi holds no one shotters.

Madara does.

Mokuton spam
PS
Juubi sized katons

There is a line you must draw between being clever and someone who is all powerful. Madara fought in an era where pure strength and intelligence was needed. Madara is intelligent. If you study his entire life story you'll find that he is not some dumb brute. I give Itachi his credit he deserves but Itachi hasn't achieved things that makes him vastly superior.

And PS destroys mountains ranges
Mokuton can attack from the ground and hit Itachi

ETC

 

[Exaar]

and what exactly is these facts? high skilled characters always dodge attacks even from point blank yet both manga and anime depicts totsuka's initial release to hit foes with no time to dodge or react to it until it's too late. Not saying it's "instant" but i do believe you need some kind of enhanced reaction timing like sage mode or sharingan in order to even stand a chance to dodge.

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For Nagato, The reason he didn't/Couldn't dodge was due to his lack of mobility, Kabuto never said anything about it being to fast. Plus Itachi's susanoo and it's movement was covered by Dust that was kicked up into the air after CT was destoryed Giving him the element of surprise.

Second, Why would Oro dodge a sword that he thinks it a regular chakra sword?. He cannot die from a simple stab. He said on the very next page "Do you really think a little cut like this will be able to stop me". Plus he was inside his snakes mouth, Oro himself during that moment lacks mobility .

Totsuka has never out right blitzed someone without the element of surprised or against a mobile target

 

[Illuminater]

For Nagato, The reason he didn't/Couldn't dodge was due to his lack of mobility, Kabuto never said anything about it being to fast. Plus Itachi's susanoo and it's movement was covered by Dust that was kicked up into the air after CT was destoryed Giving him the element of surprise.

Second, Why would Oro dodge a sword that he thinks it a regular chakra sword?. He cannot die from a simple stab. He said on the very next page "Do you really think a little cut like this will be able to stop me". Plus he was inside his snakes mouth, Oro himself during that moment lacks mobility .

Totsuka has never out right blitzed someone without the element of surprised or against a mobile target

You put it in words I probably would have never said. Thanks

 

[LoZelda101]

There's no proof. Those are just speed blitzs. If you look at the Susanoo it's very fast in all instances. When has it taken susanoo a long time to hit something? Exactly.


Instantly grabs Danzo

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Instantly stabs Tsunade

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Grabs shin fast

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Extremely fast arrows

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Susanoo is naturally fast. But it's not god speed fast that it would instantly blitz high tier opponents. Even Jounin can dodge the blade. Sorry but in those instances both enemies were not clearly thinking.

Nagato was being controlled, and was nerfed because he was a edo tensei. Also he can't see through the dust cloud. It surprised Kabuto. Itachi needed help from naruto and killerbee in order to create that diversion.

And Orochimaru was laughing and being a general creep. Who knows how much power he was able to leak out.

I'm providing these examples not because I feel like I need too, but just to show you how stupid that idea is.

You won't ever use that in a vs battle. If you ask kishimoto I highly doubt he will say it can insta speed blitz.

sigh....Nearly all of your examples are nearly within close touching distance. the distance between the blade and nagato/orochi were plenty of enough room to dodge or at the very least react to it. the fact they couldn't even notice it is proof that it is speed-blitz sword when used the correct way like itachi has shown here.

like i said, highly skilled ninja's are still capable of reacting to attacks that is covered from debris. has nothing to do if kabuto was in control or not. hell even sage kabuto couldn't escape unharm from getting pierced by sasuke's susanoo arrow. but at the very least kabuto was able to react and attempted to dodge. the feat isn't they couldn't dodge, the feat is that they couldn't even react to it despite that fair distance. is that not what a speed-blitz is?

 

[Ricardo]

Sasuke is not a more well written character than Naruto. That's opinion and propaganda promoted by Sasukebase.

LMFAOOOOO

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[Illuminater]

sigh....Nearly all of your examples are nearly within close touching distance. the distance between the blade and nagato/orochi were plenty of enough room to dodge or at the very least react to it. the fact they couldn't even notice it is proof that it is speed-blitz sword when used the correct way like itachi has shown here.

like i said, highly skilled ninja's are still capable of reacting to attacks that is covered from debris. has nothing to do if kabuto was in control or not. hell even sage kabuto couldn't escape unharm from getting pierced by sasuke's susanoo arrow. but at the very least kabuto was able to react and attempted to dodge. the feat isn't they couldn't dodge, the feat is that they couldn't even react to it despite that fair distance. is that not what a speed-blitz is?

Only the example with tsunade was kinda point blank range...

Either way..unless Kishi says that Totsuka is extremely fast and has the capabilities YOU guys describe, I won't believe it.

Also...if the story follows every feat that ninjas are capable of then it would be very different. Sorry but Nagato was speedblitzed because of the dust cloud. And kabuto was in control.

 

[Illuminater]

For Nagato, The reason he didn't/Couldn't dodge was due to his lack of mobility, Kabuto never said anything about it being to fast. Plus Itachi's susanoo and it's movement was covered by Dust that was kicked up into the air after CT was destoryed Giving him the element of surprise.

Second, Why would Oro dodge a sword that he thinks it a regular chakra sword?. He cannot die from a simple stab. He said on the very next page "Do you really think a little cut like this will be able to stop me". Plus he was inside his snakes mouth, Oro himself during that moment lacks mobility .

Totsuka has never out right blitzed someone without the element of surprised or against a mobile target

I repeat what this guy said

 

[Phact]

(I am now going 4 font)

Madara would not have been defeated by naruto and sasuke. Sorry but kishimoto stated he couldn't find a way to kill off madara because he was so strong. So he had black zetsu do it. Madara is too strong.

Sakura is useless in high tier fights, contrary to popular opinion.

Itachi is not more powerful than Madara. Even EMS madara is stronger

As far as we know, totsuka blade must pierce the enemy in order to seal it. So no, itachi isn't going to just wack madara with the sword and win the fight.

Itachi can not speed blitz with the totsuka blade. I mean it might be possible but it's not going to catch everyone off guard. That's just simple facts.

Sasuke is not a more well written character than Naruto. That's opinion and propaganda promoted by Sasukebase.

Naruto does in indeed have a blood lusted, "no holding back" mode. All characters do. And that makes naruto the strongest

DMS Kakashi is the second strongest kage after Naruto

Hagoromo is still stronger than naruto and sasuke until we know how powerful he was in his prime. Even after thousands of years of being dead he was able to bring people back from the undead, summon back naruto and friends from ANOTHER DIMENSION, and give away a ton of senjutsu. When he was alive he created the moon, sealed the juubi with his brother. Among other things.


Sasuke's ameno was nerfed. Unnerfed ameno allows him to teleport other things. But now it seems as if he can only teleport himself. Proof it was nerfed? Well he would have soloed naruto, kaguya, and momoshiki and kinshiki EASILY if it was unnerfed. Imagine him teleport naruto into his chidori, instant win.


Naruto still has Rikudou Sage Mode.

Juubi Jinchuuriki, tree absorbed, Madara is stronger than almost anyone in the NarutoVerse

i agree with you 100%
ty and madara rulez