Clearing up misconceptions!

[LoZelda101]

Only the example with tsunade was kinda point blank range...

Either way..unless Kishi says that Totsuka is extremely fast and has the capabilities YOU guys describe, I won't believe it.

Also...if the story follows every feat that ninjas are capable of then it would be very different. Sorry but Nagato was speedblitzed because of the dust cloud. And kabuto was in control.

Ok, fine. if dust cloud is the excuse for nagato, then why didn't orochimaru notice totsuka stab until it was already too late? I'll tell you. either 1. totsuka blade speed blitz, or 2. base rinnegan, non sage mode users, non raikage, non minato and regular ninja's cannot react to totsuka blade.

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[Illuminater]

I believe someone already clarified why Orochimaru didn't (not couldn't) dodge it.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

True, I mean't DMS puts him above all kages except naruto.

And itachi holds no one shotters.

Madara does.

Mokuton spam
PS
Juubi sized katons

There is a line you must draw between being clever and someone who is all powerful. Madara fought in an era where pure strength and intelligence was needed. Madara is intelligent. If you study his entire life story you'll find that he is not some dumb brute. I give Itachi his credit he deserves but Itachi hasn't achieved things that makes him vastly superior.

And PS destroys mountains ranges
Mokuton can attack from the ground and hit Itachi

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I thought you meant EMS Madara? Madara with mokuton is definitely stronger no doubt but if its EMS Madara then that's just Madara with only a Susanoo. Madara is intelligent no doubt in fact all Uchihas are but his intellect is nothing like Kabuto who was thought to be way more powerful ended up getting beat by Itachi with just pure intellect.
He knows the weakness to every jutsu and Susanoo is something that he would know well too. His totsukya blade is a one-shot technique.

 

[Illuminater]

I thought you meant EMS Madara? Madara with mokuton is definitely stronger no doubt but if its EMS Madara then that's just Madara with only a Susanoo. Madara is intelligent no doubt in fact all Uchihas are but his intellect is nothing like Kabuto who was thought to be way more powerful ended up getting beat by Itachi with just pure intellect.
He knows the weakness to every jutsu and Susanoo is something that he would know well too. His totsukya blade is a one-shot technique.

Itachi played on Kabuto's fears and insecurities. Plus he had an ass pull jutsu to win.

Also did't kabuto nearly put the kunai back in itachis head but sasuke saved him?

 

[LoZelda101]

I believe someone already clarified why Orochimaru didn't (not couldn't) dodge it.

LOL whoever told you that is a freaking moron lol. otherwise he would not of said "you?" before realizing it was totsuka. lmao

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Itachi played on Kabuto's fears and insecurities. Plus he had an ass pull jutsu to win.

Also did't kabuto nearly put the kunai back in itachis head but sasuke saved him?

It did seem like an aspull jutsu but to kabuto he was expecting the unexpected from Itachi

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And naw, that was part of Izanami. Itachi said the justu was casted long before then. If his real body took damage before the genjutsu was casted, kabuto wouldn't of been trapped in the loop.

The only thing Madara can use against Itachi is Susanoo.

 

[Uchihakil]

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Madara would not have been defeated by naruto and sasuke. Sorry but kishimoto stated he couldn't find a way to kill off madara because he was so strong. So he had black zetsu do it. Madara is too strong.

Sakura is useless in high tier fights, contrary to popular opinion.

Itachi is not more powerful than Madara. Even EMS madara is stronger

As far as we know, totsuka blade must pierce the enemy in order to seal it. So no, itachi isn't going to just wack madara with the sword and win the fight.

Itachi can not speed blitz with the totsuka blade. I mean it might be possible but it's not going to catch everyone off guard. That's just simple facts.

Sasuke is not a more well written character than Naruto. That's opinion and propaganda promoted by Sasukebase.

Naruto does in indeed have a blood lusted, "no holding back" mode. All characters do. And that makes naruto the strongest

DMS Kakashi is the second strongest kage after Naruto

Hagoromo is still stronger than naruto and sasuke until we know how powerful he was in his prime. Even after thousands of years of being dead he was able to bring people back from the undead, summon back naruto and friends from ANOTHER DIMENSION, and give away a ton of senjutsu. When he was alive he created the moon, sealed the juubi with his brother. Among other things.


Sasuke's ameno was nerfed. Unnerfed ameno allows him to teleport other things. But now it seems as if he can only teleport himself. Proof it was nerfed? Well he would have soloed naruto, kaguya, and momoshiki and kinshiki EASILY if it was unnerfed. Imagine him teleport naruto into his chidori, instant win.


Naruto still has Rikudou Sage Mode.

Juubi Jinchuuriki, tree absorbed, Madara is stronger than almost anyone in the NarutoVerse

I agree with most but sasuke soloing kaguya, come on now, in order to have a chance one needs both seals, on top of her reacting (3 times against ameno) while in a weaker state, she negged his strongest defence (susano) like its nothing, if not for plot, she shits on team 7, not just sasuke, fused momoshiki instantly reacted to ameno, though sasuke with ameno can solo kinshiki (that's if he switched them like he did with madara)

Secondly susano is fast as f*ck, that's mostlikely why itachi blitzed twice, though I dont think neither nagato nor oro realised what hit'em until they were him, it happened soo fast, but its a lil iffy though

I agree with everything else though, the last part I dont disagree totally and I dont agree totally