The Kamui Dimension

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1) Did it exist before Obito was born?
2) Did it suddenly come to be when Obito was born?
3) Did it suddenly come to be when Obito awakened his 2-tomoe Sharingan or when he (and Kakashi) awakened their Mangekyou Sharingan/Kamui?
4) Was it erased from existence when Obito died and left the realm of the living?
5) Does it still exist because Obito still possesses his Sharingan in the afterlife?
6) It exist[s/ed] in Obito's eyes, right? Or in some other plane of reality/existence/the universe?

I guess no one but Kishi could know the answers to these questions for certain. Just speculating.
Maybe Naruto wikia provides some answers. Just too lazy to check lol
 

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I think it(Kamui dimension) exist for forever and it happen Obito was bless with this unique capability(to access this dimension).
 

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I'm sure it existed before he awakened it.
 

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It was there when Obito learned to use it, It'll still be there after his death until the next guy who learns Kamui. My guess lol
 
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Looks like a sort copy of our Universe but comprised of different matter. I doubt Obito created a dimension by unlocking kamui. Then again..the eye naturally being an attuned key to a random ass dimension?

It reminds me of the animus tutorial in assassins creed. Your running in the same location in both dimensions. It's just that our dimensions objects aren't manifested in kamui dimension. It's like God couldn't be arsed finishing it. He just copied and pasted but removed all the objects and textures like a Sims game. Drew up the basic schematics and colour schemes or maybe I just need to go to bed...yeah... XD
 
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It existed with Obito's chakra and it doesn't exist when Obito's chakra is gone.
 

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It came into being when obito awakened MS and disappears when obito dies if obito's chakra returns or if obito is revived the dimension reappears
 

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1) Did it exist before Obito was born?
2) Did it suddenly come to be when Obito was born?
3) Did it suddenly come to be when Obito awakened his 2-tomoe Sharingan or when he (and Kakashi) awakened their Mangekyou Sharingan/Kamui?
4) Was it erased from existence when Obito died and left the realm of the living?
5) Does it still exist because Obito still possesses his Sharingan in the afterlife?
6) It exist[s/ed] in Obito's eyes, right? Or in some other plane of reality/existence/the universe?

I guess no one but Kishi could know the answers to these questions for certain. Just speculating.
Maybe Naruto wikia provides some answers. Just too lazy to check lol


1) Yes. Everything Sharingan related was inherited directly from the Juubi.
2) Nope. Read 1.
3) Nope. Read 1.
4) It was removed from the existence of the impure world. The ability is fixated with his Sharingan which no longer exists in the realm of the impure world. I specify 'impure world' because Jutsu such as the Edo Tensei exist which is capable of bringing his sharingan back in to physical existence in the Impure world.
5) Yup.
6)A different plane of existence. The jutsu itself is a portal---or for more accurate definition, a ripple in the fabric of space and time which opens to another space and time (plane).

The answers are already there---not easily seen----but they're there.
 

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I Think It Was Created At MS Not sure. Since he came back to Kashi power up it should still exist
 

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imo, it always existed, he accessed it for the first time with 3-T so I'm guessing his eyes just serve as some sort of door to the dimension, It might even be a place in the NV since it seems there are different dimensions in the NV (meaning Obito isn't the only one that can access the Kamui dimension).
 

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Well...damn. All great posts, guys. Said some stuff I would've never thought about.
 

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Ehh..My idea is that Kamui and Genjutsu are actually related in function; so Obito having it shouldn't be a surprise or oddity; then again I should explain. I'll just quote something I wrote a few years ago:


Initially, reiterating that: Naturally the Elder son should have maintained the Rikudō's eyes but his Dōjutsu represents the Rin'negan lacking the Yoton portions: the eyes can only surface when both entity's are unified. The Sharingan is a secondary consequence of the Rin'negan and eventually came into existence as the Elder Son's Dōjutsu suffered attenuation. It implies that the varying abilities both seen and unseen to present of the Mangekyō and Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan would have originated from his eyes. Highlighting the ability that is Kamui.

  • The jutsu is manifestly the pinnacle of specific abilities rooted within the general Sharingan as it differentiates entirely from the commonly displayed abilities. The key element to the jutsu is that it holds properties similar to Izanagi however their principles differ. Within the realm of Izanagi the physical user remains 'real' while in combat and the Genjutsu automatically converts any occurrence of injuries or death into mere "illusions" whether or not the user is cognizant or perceptive of the attack; thus severing the bridge between what is real and what is not. Kamui operates in like fashion, however, it is solely up to the user to determine segment, time and place on their body when the shifts between dimensions [reality and illusion] occur. Reality however is the foundation preceding illusion.The illusion remains only a reflection of what was actually there; hence why Obito maintains any damage dealt even after shifting through dimensions and even after shifting to another dimension, he can still be physically seen.

    [*] The justu also maintains properties sufficient to warp the fabric of space-time as a whole [rivaling a hypothetical wormhole]; deeming it Space time Ninjutsu.

Obtio's Mangekyō is truly radiant given it's eternal connection. Examining it's foundation: Genjutsu manipulates charka flow the the brain thus causing a ripple of the senses and may be used to insert an experience of false dilemmas within the desired target. Knitting this along with the aforementioned principle of Kamui, I thought that this [ ] specific instance spurred by Obito's overwhelming curiosity and concern was actually Kamui messing with dimensions; converting reality as seen and heard by Kakashi to illusion and relayed them as illusion to Obito [ ] also as portrayed in the recent chapter [ ]. Compiling the afore properties; Kamui as a jutsu is actually the ability to manually influence the intersection of Reality and Illusion----which naturally----allows the user to appear at any desired location on the plane of reality. The dimension in which Kamui users appear is theorized to be this intersection; where Imagination and reality remain in superabundance and are effortlessly produced by those able to manipulate the entities [ ].




Bear in mind the 'red' was before we knew Indra had the EMS, when we all thought his eyes were:

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The attenuation highlighting the sheer density of the Rin'negan still applies however.
 
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