Hebi Sasuke vs Gengetsu

[Beans2]

Location- Sasuke vs Deidara
Intel- None
Distance- 40m
Restrictions- Manda

 

[KidGamer65]

Joki Boy molests him. He has no way to put it down besides taking Gengetsu out, and he wont get to Gengetsu without going through Joki. A few explosions should be enough to mortally wound him.

 

[Curse Mark]

I remember people trying to prove is sharingan could see through the genjutsu.

 

[Apêx1]

Joki Boy molests him. He has no way to put it down besides taking Gengetsu out, and he wont get to Gengetsu without going through Joki. A few explosions should be enough to mortally wound him.

What happens if Joki Boi gets bisected? I don't know much about him so I'm unsure, but depending on how weak Gengtsu becomes from using Joki Boi, flight followed by Katon Dragons could do the trick.

 

[KidGamer65]

What happens if Joki Boi gets bisected? I don't know much about him so I'm unsure, but depending on how weak Gengtsu becomes from using Joki Boi, flight followed by Katon Dragons could do the trick.

It'd reform. That's why they had to try and bind it. If he got close enough to bisect it it'd probably just blow up in his face anyway. When Gengetsu uses Joki Boy he's practically a sitting duck, but Joki Boi would either take the Katon, explode, and then reform or it'd grab Gengetsu and dodge.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Gengetsu mid diff

 

[Apêx1]

It'd reform. That's why they had to try and bind it. If he got close enough to bisect it it'd probably just blow up in his face anyway. When Gengetsu uses Joki Boy he's practically a sitting duck, but Joki Boi would either take the Katon, explode, and then reform or it'd grab Gengetsu and dodge.

Fair enough. But this jutsu has a weakness to Katon, doesn't it? Sure, Katon can help it grow because it would heat it up. But post-explosion, the only way Joki Boi shrinks again in order to explode another tme is via the hail cooling him down. Sasuke will obviously notice this (he can survive explosions by flying or sacrificing snakes to take the explosions, CM2 wings can even protect him from one most likely), so using a Katon to evaporate the hail and heat up Joki Boi further means he'll I explode again. This would pretty much be over for Gengetsu at this point because Joki Boi cannot save Gengetsu from a Shunshin blitz while in his giant state.

 

[KidGamer65]

Fair enough. But this jutsu has a weakness to Katon, doesn't it? Sure, Katon can help it grow because it would heat it up. But post-explosion, the only way Joki Boi shrinks again in order to explode another tme is via the hail cooling him down. Sasuke will obviously notice this (he can survive explosions by flying or sacrificing snakes to take the explosions, CM2 wings can even protect him from one most likely), so using a Katon to evaporate the hail and heat up Joki Boi further means he'll I explode again. This would pretty much be over for Gengetsu at this point because Joki Boi cannot save Gengetsu from a Shunshin blitz while in his giant state.

Then I agree that Sasuke can win this.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I remembered Draegod proving that even if Gengetsu is vulnerable in his stated, after Joki usage, it doesn't change the fact it can still use oil/water hydricfication[

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]. So how does blitzing defeat Gengetsu exactly? Maybe preparing a couple of Kunai explosive tags? Cause thats the only thing I see taking him out. Because physical damage is nullified and Mizukage's body conductive oil will reduce the damage output Sasuke element ninjutsu would do for a kill.

Joki Boi was praised for its speed (out speeding Gaara's sand control and "auto protect" sand by a slight sec) I fail to see how Katon is a problem of maneuvering anyway. The strategy can only work based on Gengetsu's arrogance

 

[Apêx1]

I remembered Draegod proving that even if Gengetsu is vulnerable in his stated, after Joki usage, it doesn't change the fact it can still use oil/water hydricfication[

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]. So how does blitzing defeat Gengetsu exactly? Maybe preparing a couple of Kunai explosive tags? Cause thats the only thing I see taking him out. Because physical damage is nullified and Mizukage's body conductive oil will reduce the damage output Sasuke element ninjutsu would do for a kill.

Joki Boi was praised for its speed (out speeding Gaara's sand control and "auto protect" sand by a slight sec) I fail to see how Katon is a problem of maneuvering anyway. The strategy can only work based on Gengetsu's arrogance

Chidori? Followed by Genjutsu while he's totally vulnerable if he chooses to? And Katon is evaporating the hail when he's in giant form, it's not intended to hit him when he's small.

 

[Draegod]

Chidori? Followed by Genjutsu while he's totally vulnerable if he chooses to? And Katon is evaporating the hail when he's in giant form, it's not intended to hit him when he's small.

lol.... Oil is a insolater to Lightning btw...

Jokiboi reforms in mear seconds and Explode anytime he chooses. So no, Sasuke blocking the explosion and magically being unphazed as if nothing happen then doing some falsy fire jutsus as if it would cause a premature explosion is more then false.

Sasuke has no counter to the clam Genjutsu what so ever. And the snake sening body temp is even more then a fail seeing as Gengetsu has a Cool/cold Body tempt due to his body being water and adapting to the Enviorment tempature (fact of all water). Ever heard of Room temparature water? I'm sure you have. Moving on.

WHo the hell stated it has a Weakness to Katon? Heat helps the explosion get stronger if he chooses to, but There is no limit to Joki's size before he explodes. Heat is the most idiotic strategy seeing as you're only fueling a bigger explosion. He can choose to change his size easily since its fact he can cool down or heat up fast (thus controling its explosion).

1. No real counter to the Genjutsu, Thus Head shot while Genjutsu is up
2. Joki boi rapes, and with the Genjutsu up its super rape.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Chidori? Followed by Genjutsu while he's totally vulnerable if he chooses to?

Genjutsu is possible, to make sure hydrification is turned off.

And Katon is evaporating the hail when he's in giant form, it's not intended to hit him when he's small.

His not in giant form when hail is in process. Hail is processed after it explodes. Chapter 557 clearly shows it raining hail, in a massive area. There's no way Sasuke's Katon counters/covers "rain" area effect.

 

[Apêx1]

Genjutsu is possible, to make sure hydrification is turned off.



His not in giant form when hail is in process. Hail is processed after it explodes. Chapter 557 clearly shows it raining hail, in a massive area. There's no way Sasuke's Katon counters/covers "rain" area effect.

Please read what Gengetsu said

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. "The hail cools it down and it shrinks again". So if Sasuke prevents it from cooling down via Katon by either heating the main body or the hail, it won't shrink again.

 

[Draegod]

Please read what Gengetsu said

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. "The hail cools it down and it shrinks again". So if Sasuke prevents it from cooling down via Katon by either heating the main body or the hail, it won't shrink again.

LMMFAO Sasuke Knows the in and outs to Gengetsu when even ninjas from the mist village knew nothing? Please tell more and keep going.

Plus the fact He reforms instantly so please come with a better argument that doesn't allign all the stars to make sasuke seem Like The know all end all Creator of everything.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Please read what Gengetsu said

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. "The hail cools it down and it shrinks again". So if Sasuke prevents it from cooling down via Katon by either heating the main body or the hail, it won't shrink again.

Your repeating yourself and not getting my point.

1. I already addressed Joki's reaction/speed feats to suggest it easily dodges Katon.
2. Your clearly underestimating the reform time it takes to shrink back, base on panels.
3. My above post shows it "raining" hail so its not one short area with cool down hail. So again, how does Sasuke clear out RAIN with Katon?

 

[Apêx1]

Your repeating yourself and not getting my point.

1. I already addressed Joki's reaction/speed feats to suggest it easily dodges Katon.
2. Your clearly underestimating the reform time it takes to shrink back, base on panels.
3. My above post shows it "raining" hail so its not one short area with cool down hail. So again, how does Sasuke clear out RAIN with Katon?

No, you're the one not understanding.
1. Joki Boi's speed feats are limited to his shrunken form. As I already showed you with the quote, he's not in his mini-form post-explosion and thus is not dodging any Katon seeing how massive of a target he is. "The hail cools it down and it shrinks again" meaning he's in his giant form and gets countered by the Katon.
2. It's several seconds, panel time doesn't mean anything as you cannot gauge the time between two panels. It's a fact that it does take time to cool down, it's not instant, and thus Sasuke heats it up after analysing its mechanics. This is after seeing it once or twice and having survived via flight and/or snake summon/his CM2 wings.
3. If he heats up the area then Joki Boi is not cooling down. The hail not close to Joki Boi's body is irrelevant because it has no effect on him. Is it really that hard to understand dude?

 

[DrProof]

Hebi Sasuke is one of the most underrated versions of Sasuke on the Base. Are we seriously forgetting he has orochimaru's arsenal which severely gives him the advantage in this fight. We're talking 3-4 snakes the size of gamabunta, and im not even going to get into what snakes are capable of sensory wise. Gengetsu is out of his league against Hebi Sasuke.

 

[DrProof]

I'll clarify more once i get my damn laptop fixed.

 

[Draegod]

Hebi Sasuke is one of the most underrated versions of Sasuke on the Base. Are we seriously forgetting he has orochimaru's arsenal which severely gives him the advantage in this fight. We're talking 3-4 snakes the size of gamabunta, and im not even going to get into what snakes are capable of sensory wise. Gengetsu is out of his league against Hebi Sasuke.

Lol no sasuke is the easiest character to defend no matter which version. Underrated is the silliest thing to say bruh.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

1. Joki Boi's speed feats are limited to his shrunken form. As I already showed you with the quote, he's not in his mini-form post-explosion and thus is not dodging any Katon seeing how massive of a target he is. "The hail cools it down and it shrinks again" meaning he's in his giant form and gets countered by the Katon.

@Bold more like forms. As we witness its chubby forms had hype speed too[

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], still making that statement despite getting bigger.

Also Joki giant form is still in gaseous state and at best becomes stable in its chubby form by feats shown, so Katon isnt taking out gaseous form nor its "chubby" stable-firm body recreated.

Addressed "heat up hail" argument below.

2. It's several seconds, panel time doesn't mean anything as you cannot gauge the time between two panels. It's a fact that it does take time to cool down, it's not instant, and thus Sasuke heats it up after analysing its mechanics. This is after seeing it once or twice and having survived via flight and/or snake summon/his CM2 wings.

I may not know the exact time, but feats shows the time Gaara's flight speed ambush[

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] to the time it needed to shrink. Thats extremely impressive knowing Gaaras flight speed.

I just dont see Sasuke pulling the time to do your plan. The gap between Joki exploding and Sasuke position, already gives him the space to cool and out pace Katon.

3. If he heats up the area then Joki Boi is not cooling down. The hail not close to Joki Boi's body is irrelevant because it has no effect on him. Is it really that hard to understand dude?

I do understand. Im questioning how you think Sasuke's Katon has the right amount of range and size in his Katon for this to work.