If Guy almost killed Madara why did The Boys need Seals??

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In a series where the God of Death is incapabl of killing Kurama who is inferior to Juubi Jin Madara/Kaguya it's not an empty statement. His immortality is NOT based on his regeneration it's actually based off his existence entirely. His chakra or Kaguya's chakra. Madara was the same as Kaguya who is immortal.

Kaguya's Immortality: Ageless, didnt age at all; Mind, her mind is still intact and is immortal; soul, still alive just split into 9 separate beings with different conscious with those 9 beings all being immortal; body, she didn't have a body she came out of nowhere and possessed Madara. When Naruto hit her with the 9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken she became unstable and exploded into a mass of chakra. Her physical body gone.

Night Guy was designed to make Madara go poof! Disappear! Nothingness! That didn't happen though. He wasn't going to be able to regenerate from nothingness that was the whole point of Gai warping space and his attack engulfing Madara as it was shaped as a dragon. Gai's kick was probably going to kick Madara into another dimension like Momo's Attack did Naruto. Both warped space. The only problem is Madara is sort of a tank.

Post shinju absorption Madara can tank anything. He doesn't need to be shown tanking everything. Ain't nobody got time for that

Let's not forget Izanagi/COAT. Which is probably what Madara's regeneration is based off of.

he already got shit on in a similar thread on the vs section.

manga clearly stated and portrayed madara as immortal, hago gave naruto and sasuke the seals to defeat madara not kaguya, last thing on his mind( everybody's mind) was kaguya returning at that point. and that was before madara got a lot more powerful and closer to kaguya. theres nothing to argue here, ambi and necromancer clearly dislike the character thus its driving them to blatantly ignore the manga which is sad because i used to think ambi was beyond this.
 
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Yea madara after absorbing the shinjuu is completely immortal, juubito without the shinjuu regenerated half his body, what bout someone who is COMPLETELY immortal, that's why only the seals can seal him just like kaguya, that's why he did'nt die until kaguya was sealed and the power of the shinjuu was sealed, otherwise madara won't have died, because shinjuu granted him complete immortality
 

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Yea madara after absorbing the shinjuu is completely immortal, juubito without the shinjuu regenerated half his body, what bout someone who is COMPLETELY immortal, that's why only the seals can seal him just like kaguya, that's why he did'nt die until kaguya was sealed and the power of the shinjuu was sealed, otherwise madara won't have died, because shinjuu granted him complete immortality

Complete Immortality yet he still died.
 

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Complete Immortality yet he still died.

Yet his immortality was sealed, that's why, if for example 3 eyed jj madara is nuked, blown to smitherens, he'd regenerate from nothingness because he has the immortality then, but that immortality or what granted him immortality was sealed, that's why he died, that's what the seals were for, to seal away the power
 

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Do your 2 favs need the seals?? I doubt Madara Could Survive 6PAS. I meannn Gai almost killed him.

I meannnn if 6PAS hits him he's ko right? It destroyed bijuu ps and ashura kyuubi.

Not to mention it spread to another country range wise.
How did Kaguya defeat Madara? She absorb Him the same way as sealing Him inside Her a reverse seal sines Kaguya was a prisoner of the Tree Herself.
 

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Madara is immortal because he absorbed an immortal entity,smart asses
And when the fûck did six paths almighty scream reach another country,people be making up shit these days.
 

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Wow, people sure love downplaying Guy huh.

Madara is the most proud and arrogant character in the manga. If he actually admits that somebody almost killed him, trust him- they did. I agree, I feel that Naruto & Sasuke whilst godly powered still just didn't have that physical firepower to eradicate Madara's body physically- their abilities were so they could survive against Madara and go toe to toe but their only REAL option was the seals.
 

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Wow, people sure love downplaying Guy huh.

Madara is the most proud and arrogant character in the manga. If he actually admits that somebody almost killed him, trust him- they did. I agree, I feel that Naruto & Sasuke whilst godly powered still just didn't have that physical firepower to eradicate Madara's body physically- their abilities were so they could survive against Madara and go toe to toe but their only REAL option was the seals.
This is not downplay Gai. If people think that Gai is the same level of Madara, then is overrated. Actually, I find hilarious to see people that puts him in the same tier of Kaguya, Madara and Naruto/Sasuke.

Gai fails to kill JJ Madara who used only the Gudo Dama, which were even removed by Kakashi and Minato. Had Gai not gotten help Madara would've beat him. Then, Madara wanted to see the power of the 8 gates until the end, that's all.

If Gai resisted against JJ Madara, it's just for plot.
 
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Nah Gai would have eliminated Madara. but Madara survived mostly due to Hashirama's cells.
 

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he already got shit on in a similar thread on the vs section.

manga clearly stated and portrayed madara as immortal, hago gave naruto and sasuke the seals to defeat madara not kaguya, last thing on his mind( everybody's mind) was kaguya returning at that point. and that was before madara got a lot more powerful and closer to kaguya. theres nothing to argue here, ambi and necromancer clearly dislike the character thus its driving them to blatantly ignore the manga which is sad because i used to think ambi was beyond this.

How the fuсk do I dislike Madara when he's my 5th favorite character in Naruto? :lol If I don't believe he's immortal and want to argue for what I believe in, what am I supposed to do? Suck it up and keep quiet?

No. It's sad how as soon as you say something "negative" about a character you're viewed as a hater.
 

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I consider Madara's immortality to be like Hidan's. He can't be killed but unlike Hidan, he can regenerate as long as there's a part of him there to regenerate from.

He himself isn't the Juubi though so I'd say if he gets erased to the point that there's nothing left of him, there'd be nothing left for him to regenerate from. After a while, the Juubi would respawn which is why Hagoromo decided to seperate its chakra and seal it before his death.

I also believe that the seals were meant for the Juubi since it would keep returning to wreck havoc on the world until it gets sealed. Naruto and Sasuke were only able to meet the Sage when they were at the brink of death. This happened to happen during Madara's reign as a Jinchuuriki since he put them in that state.

Madara is immortal and can regenerate. Just being immortal won't make you omnipotent so even though someone like Hidan can't be killed, you can still "erase" his body. I wonder what happens to them though.

Blowing Madara up to smitherings wouldn't work. He's immortal so that wouldn't kill him and unlike Hidan, he can regenerate. He'd wind up regenerating from whatever's left of him. You'd have to erase him completely but even if you do manage that and Madara's body is erased, after sometime, the Juubi will respawn.



Guy almost did kill Madara since he was being reckless. He had regeneration but apparently wasn't immortal yet. I think I remember a part of his head missing too so I still don't know what it would've took to actually kill him at that point (Maybe if Guy would've destroyed his head and not just a part of it/aimed for the head instead of the chest).

This also makes me question if Obito was immortal since he was the one who seperated the Shinju from his body in the first place.

That's my take on it anyways.
 

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How the fuсk do I dislike Madara when he's my 5th favorite character in Naruto? :lol If I don't believe he's immortal and want to argue for what I believe in, what am I supposed to do? Suck it up and keep quiet?

No. It's sad how as soon as you say something "negative" about a character you're viewed as a hater.

dude lol cmon now you hate madara or else we wouldn't argue as much.
 

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Madara is invincible with shinjuu without it he's not.
 

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1. Without the Shinju he can be killed.
2. With it he can't.
3. So the seals were necessary for Madara and for the Juubi.
 

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Complete Immortality yet he still died.

Every immortality can be taken away. It's just a power, powers can be sealed and stripped away. The only person whose immorality can't be taken away are Omnipotent and few Nigh omnipotents.

Kaguya's immortality can't be stripped away because she is Eternity. Madara absorbed her.
 

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That's exactly what you're doing as well. Madara never actually proved he could regenerate from anything really damaging - the difference between my and your argument is that you can buy into the bullcrap that he's completely immortal from his completely unproven statement, which is your business. In my eyes, if Madara cut his finger on a paper and it regenerated, you would still be here claiming he's completely immortal.

Either that, or you just interpret "immortal" differently than I do, but in no way is Madara fully immortal in the truest sense of the word, especially not when verses that could annihilate NV don't have true immortals either.

How is that relevant?
 

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Wow, people sure love downplaying Guy huh.

Madara is the most proud and arrogant character in the manga. If he actually admits that somebody almost killed him, trust him- they did. I agree, I feel that Naruto & Sasuke whilst godly powered still just didn't have that physical firepower to eradicate Madara's body physically- their abilities were so they could survive against Madara and go toe to toe but their only REAL option was the seals.

Not really. Naruto could have finished him off while he was weakened and pulled the tailed beast out of him like with Obito. They didn't to leave a giant hole in the planet and kill millions by making another moon.
 

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Author's own words consisted of: "Not knowing how to kill him" or some such very close so Deus ex machina
 
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