If Guy almost killed Madara why did The Boys need Seals??

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This is true, he doesn't have any feats to back up that claim. But you think he can be permanently killed?

Madara himself - yep, but the Juubi will definitely reform eventually, just like the Biju do.
 

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? Obito never absorbed the shinju...

Obito is the one who put the Shinjuu there...

that and hagoromo giving the seals to the boys because thats the only way to defeat him. stay bashing kid.


manga said he's immortal but thats apparently not valid.

So did Orochimaru. And Hidan.

And he gave them the seals to seal the Juubi. You don't know when he planned for that to happen.
 
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Only fanboys like bowflex believe Madara can regenerate from nothingness, or that he is completely immortal. The Shinjuu gave him a regen boost no doubt, but he isn't fully immortal, not by a long shot.

Bro, he got sliced in half. And your denying Mangafax.
 

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^ So what? :lol Do I have to repeat myself?

- Show me a scan of Madara regenerating from nothingness.
- Show me a scan of Madara regenerating more than half his body.
- Hell, show me a scan of Madara regenerating from brain or head injury.

Complete immortality in the truest sense of the word isn't what Madara has, unless you're saying he's omnipotent or that he has the regeneration that's only characteristic for much more powerful characters. Immortal has many definitions anyway - being unkillable by normal means, like being cut in half is one of them, for example. What Madara said doesn't mean he's immortal in the sense you think it does.
 

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^ So what? :lol Do I have to repeat myself?

- Show me a scan of Madara regenerating from nothingness.
- Show me a scan of Madara regenerating more than half his body.
- Hell, show me a scan of Madara regenerating from brain or head injury.

Complete immortality in the truest sense of the word isn't what Madara has, unless you're saying he's omnipotent or that he has the regeneration that's only characteristic for much more powerful characters. Immortal has many definitions anyway - being unkillable by normal means, like being cut in half is one of them, for example.

Can you show a scan, where Madara has been beaten to nothingness?
 

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^ Can you show me a scan where Madara regenerates from any injury that's truly high-level? Anything to do with the head? Anything like being vaporized? You know, stuff that'd actually prove he's immortal.
 

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Can you show a scan, where Madara has been beaten to nothingness?
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^ Can you show me a scan where Madara regenerates from any injury that's truly high-level? Anything to do with the head? Anything like being vaporized? You know, stuff that'd actually prove he's immortal.

It's a pointless argument to make as long as you can't provide proof of your claim.
 

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Because what made Madyln immortal was the tree he absorbed afterwards
 

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^ Can you show me a scan where Madara regenerates from any injury that's truly high-level? Anything to do with the head? Anything like being vaporized? You know, stuff that'd actually prove he's immortal.

Can you show us where his head was cut in half?

Can you show us where he couldn't regenerate from an injury?

Can you show us where he is vaporized?

You are asking for things, that haven't even happened in the manga.
 

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Because what made Madyln immortal was the tree he absorbed afterwards

Then why wasn't Obito immortal?

Obito put the tree there to begin with. Are people really saying one form of the Juubi is more "immortal" than another?
 

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Gai almost killed Madara because of aid thanks to Minato and the others who gave him that opening which without he would of died due to Madara's Orbs which from memory were on course to kill him.

The aid I speak about is Minato once the orbs made contact with his entire body he teleported himself and them out of the direction they were going which was straight for Gai and then I believe Gai smashed open that black cocoon he wrapped himself in or the others help make an opening or Gai smashed through that someone here can clear that little bit if they like.
 
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Then why wasn't Obito immortal?

Obito put the tree there to begin with. Are people really saying one form of the Juubi is more "immortal" than another?

Did Obito have the tree inside of him? Too lazy to look, knew he summoned it from the ground

Well Madyln become more powerful than Obito despite having the same power source....go figure.
 

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Gai almost killed Madara because of aid thanks to Minato and the others who gave him that opening which without he would of died due to Madara's Orbs which from memory were on course to kill him.

The aid I speak about is Minato once the orbs made contact with his entire body he teleported himself and them out of the direction they were going which was straight for Gai and then I believe Gai smashed open that black cocoon he wrapped himself in or the others help make an opening or Gai smashed through that someone here can clear that little bit if they like.

I'm sure Gai could've dodged the orbs.
 

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Inb4 "Madara became immortal by absorbing the Shinjuu."

Despite Obito not being immortal while having the Shinjuu within him.

Obito seperated the shinjuu from his body, that's why he was no longer immortal.
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You are asking for things, that haven't even happened in the manga.

That's exactly what you're doing as well. Madara never actually proved he could regenerate from anything really damaging - the difference between my and your argument is that you can buy into the bullcrap that he's completely immortal from his completely unproven statement, which is your business. In my eyes, if Madara cut his finger on a paper and it regenerated, you would still be here claiming he's completely immortal.

Either that, or you just interpret "immortal" differently than I do, but in no way is Madara fully immortal in the truest sense of the word, especially not when verses that could annihilate NV don't have true immortals either.
 

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Show me a scan of Madara regenerating from nothingness. Show me a scan of Madara regenerating more than half his body. Hell, show me a scan of Madara regenerating from brain or head injury. Go on.

Oh, you can't? Well, guess it's back to the empty ''I am immoral!!11!" statement for you.

In a series where the God of Death is incapabl of killing Kurama who is inferior to Juubi Jin Madara/Kaguya it's not an empty statement. His immortality is NOT based on his regeneration it's actually based off his existence entirely. His chakra or Kaguya's chakra. Madara was the same as Kaguya who is immortal.

Kaguya's Immortality: Ageless, didnt age at all; Mind, her mind is still intact and is immortal; soul, still alive just split into 9 separate beings with different conscious with those 9 beings all being immortal; body, she didn't have a body she came out of nowhere and possessed Madara. When Naruto hit her with the 9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken she became unstable and exploded into a mass of chakra. Her physical body gone.

Night Guy was designed to make Madara go poof! Disappear! Nothingness! That didn't happen though. He wasn't going to be able to regenerate from nothingness that was the whole point of Gai warping space and his attack engulfing Madara as it was shaped as a dragon. Gai's kick was probably going to kick Madara into another dimension like Momo's Attack did Naruto. Both warped space. The only problem is Madara is sort of a tank.

Post shinju absorption Madara can tank anything. He doesn't need to be shown tanking everything. Ain't nobody got time for that

Let's not forget Izanagi/COAT. Which is probably what Madara's regeneration is based off of.
 
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