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Lol current zoro doesn't have the speed to catch pica on his own yet u think he can catch a teleporting kuma who has all opportunity to one shot anyone due to his df
Zoro doesn't need running away from your opponent kind of speed. He fights like a man by attacking you straight when you come to his path. Sure if Kuma runs away like Pica was doing, Zoro won't catch him, but if he fights like a man, Zoro will defeat him
 

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Zoro doesn't need running away from your opponent kind of speed. He fights like a man by attacking you straight when you come to his path. Sure if Kuma runs away like Pica was doing, Zoro won't catch him, but if he fights like a man, Zoro will defeat him
Not even lol.. If he tries to cut kuma with a sword and kuma touches said sword it's gone... And kuma doesn't have to run away he can easily teleport out of the way if zoro tries to attack him and continuesly do this zoro needs to land multiple hits on kuma whereas kuma just needs one hit.... And zoro goes poof
 

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he doesn't need FBH. He could just use it wherever Kuma touches him.
Zoro has not shown to b able to put it multiple places on his body like luffy has had.. And unless he can read kuma mind on where he's gonna touch him that won't work...

Personally if pica can turn into stone and mix with the ground and run away before getting hit with zoro slash
Kuma should easily be able to do the same cuz all he has to do is tap his chest ...
 

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Not even lol.. If he tries to cut kuma with a sword and kuma touches said sword it's gone... And kuma doesn't have to run away he can easily teleport out of the way if zoro tries to attack him and continuesly do this zoro needs to land multiple hits on kuma whereas kuma just needs one hit.... And zoro goes poof
Zoro just need to outspeed his hand.
 

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I'm pretty sure that Zoro can use FBH. Pica could use FBH, and Zoro's Haki is superior to Pica's Haki.
Just because u might have stronger haki doesn't make you a master at it and please stop giving zoro feats he doesn't have


This isn't not only addressed to u but wtf has zoro done that puts him over kuma please enlighten me ?

What feats has he shown that should be able to catch kuma in combat if teleporting ?

Who has he fought that was even remotely on the level of kuma to even remotely think this

Which of zoro opponents in new world could defeat all the straw hats at once (granted pre timeskip)

Why does everyone think haki completely negates a devil fruit ?
Lastly how does zoro escape from kuma's paws
 

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Just because u might have stronger haki doesn't make you a master at it and please stop giving zoro feats he doesn't have


This isn't not only addressed to u but wtf has zoro done that puts him over kuma please enlighten me ?

What feats has he shown that should be able to catch kuma in combat if teleporting ?

Who has he fought that was even remotely on the level of kuma to even remotely think this

Which of zoro opponents in new world could defeat all the straw hats at once (granted pre timeskip)

Why does everyone think haki completely negates a devil fruit ?
Lastly how does zoro escape from kuma's paws
By outspeeding him? I mean sure Kuma has great defence but is useless if you get outspeed since his paw need to be on point.
 

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So u think zoro is going to clad his sword in haki and swing it before kuma can teleport and touch him . Not even hit but touch him... Zoro can even block kuma attacks (I mean direct attacks) or his swords will disappear ...
Well Zoro has observation haki im sure that would help and sense things.

By ur saying,Kuma is immortal then...
 

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So u think zoro is going to clad his sword in haki and swing it before kuma can teleport and touch him . Not even hit but touch him... Zoro can even block kuma attacks (I mean direct attacks) or his swords will disappear ...
Yes. He was dodging stuff pre-skip and even landed a sneak hit. Why not after timeskip?
 

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Not even lol.. If he tries to cut kuma with a sword and kuma touches said sword it's gone... And kuma doesn't have to run away he can easily teleport out of the way if zoro tries to attack him and continuesly do this zoro needs to land multiple hits on kuma whereas kuma just needs one hit.... And zoro goes poof
Zoro's reaction and attacking speed is greater than Kuma's attacking speed. Hell he could even dodge him preskip while being heavily injured lol and cut him down before he could move away shortly even before he could notice his presence. Post-skip Zoro will tear him apart especially when preskip Shishisonson could damage him lol

PS: Uzumaki Macho is right though. Kuma doesn't teleport. He just moves fast from places to places by using his paws to close to instantaneously reach another position. I just use the word "teleport" more because it's easier for the comprehension
 

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He was testing them, but it also shows he would have killed them if he had the chance. The Pacifista were also far stronger than any individual Strawhat at that point, look what the post-skip gap is looking like. It's not farfetched to assume to same occurred with Kuma.

Why would Kuma give a shit about Zoro's pride? He told Zoro "You WILL die if you do this," and was surprised to see him alive in Sabaody. He left Zoro's life to luck.

What do you mean by chance? It was totally up to Kuma whether to kill them all or not. Kuma respected Zoro's wish and accepted it. It can be clearly seen that Kuma is a man of pride from his words to Zoro when he was about to repel Luffy's damage. He said something like " If I still lay a finger on him , my honer would be at stake" or something along these lines when Zoro questioned him if he'd keep him promise after his death. Kuma simply held some respect for a man who's resolved to die for his men. And I said no such a thing as Kuma is currently stronger than Zoro. I am definitely not one of those who over hype Kuma without any valid reason. My point all along was that he was holding himself back when he fought Zoro. It doesn't prevent him from being weaker than current Zoro.


And how would Haki prevent him from being repelled? Haki doesn't stop DF powers or deactivate them.
Robin simply said haki doesn't stop fruit users from using their ability unlike sea stone but it can counter them/resist them/render them useless for it is the only effective method to battle almost any fruit user. As you already know you can't stop a logia from going intangible but you can still touch him. Likewise you can't stop Kuma from using his ability but you might be able to counter it with haki. Although I am not sure if it can counter Kuma's ability, I am sure the possibility is there.
 
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