Hebi Sasuke vs. War Arc Kakashi

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Peeps asking how superior intellect & intelligence can help Kakashi win when he has:

a superior sharingan to try genjutsu. (**** it. It's worth a shot. Sasuke has his hatred for Itachi to thank for getting out of tsukuyomi IF you don't believe Itachi let him out.)

Perhaps a really well timed. Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique. As Sasuke shown vs Danzo. No matter how good you are at genjutsu resistance. It's all about dat timing & surprise.

Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique. This could legit end Sasuke.

Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique. Even Itachi didn't see this one coming when Kakashi used it.

Some gates to open, perhaps to combat curse seal.

Eye Mind Reading. Superior sharingan. Once again, it's a bit if a stretch though.

Hidden Mist jutsu & silent killing which sharingan can't see through so Sasuke is stuck in the mud while Kakashi has his smelling (which is superior to part 1 Kiba) & dogs.

Shadow clones for feints & distractions

Lightning clones for traps

Lightning Release: Lightning Beast Tracking Fang might shock Sasuke. No pun intended. Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Lightning Transmission can WRAP AROUND a target and restrain them.

Strong fist to help dominate physically & with taijutsu (not that he needs it.)

Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique. Shit is devastating. Lightning release won't get you out of it either.

Water formation wall with lightning release has caught and stunned Sasuke before whem Darui used it. Kakashi also has that but Sasuke has no susano this time to hide behind.

Makibishi & wire strings come in useful for traps. Not to mention war arc Kakashi has the executioners blade.

And people ask me how can Kakashi formulate a trap capable of catching Sasuke out when he doesn't have the arsenal for it. Pfft. :th:

what actually


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blitzing a CS2

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During the battle

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Nice databook hyperbole and beginning of shippuden feats

Tobi & Deidera clearly had time to react.

Poor choice of feats on your part.

 

[BLAZE]

Nice databook hyperbole and beginning of shippuden feats

Tobi & Deidera clearly had time to react.

Poor choice of feats on your part.

give kakashi's speed feats rather than spewing your day to day garbage

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

give kakashi's speed feats rather than spewing your day to day garbage

Jutsu don't matter now, is that it? XD

You really think Kakashi is a slug...damn.

Also. I'm not a fan of databooks but apparently. In the third one anyway. Kakashi beats Sasuke by 3 points.

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Pretty big difference there in intelligence, you might notice.

 

[KidGamer65]

I can honestly see a barrage of kage bunshin feints helping him confuse Sasuke, hiding like a mole + kamui warp helping him avoid and or destroy Sasuke's attacks, and raikiri variants finally ending things. Only problem is Amaterasu.

Lol barrage of feints? Kamui? Amaterasu? Wtf? Dude. This is Hebi Sasuke vs. Kakashi without Kamui first of all, second of all, a barrage of clone feints? From the guy who has shown that he can't make many clones? Come on now.

You're going to have to call in more of your fappers if that's all you got.

Shitty logic. Lol. I gave you examples. If you are too stupid to memorize Kakashi's arsenal or use your imagination, it's not my fault.

No, if you are too stupid to provide an argument using that arsenal then that's your problem kiddo. I'm not going to make an argument for you and for myself, even though you could use the help.

The fact remains. Sasuke being smart doesn't make him immune to being outsmarted by smarter people.

No, it doesn't, but Kakashi lacks the tools necessary to outsmart and kill Sasuke. Twisting my words and not addressing them is just a concession on your part.

>Says Kakashi doesn't have the strength, tools etc to compliment his intellect.
>Later goes on to say how Hago complimented him fir that very reason.

>And then states that he only got that compliment because he had the strength and tools when he fought Kaguya, tools he doesn't have here.

:lol You NDS cats really need to learn how to read.

>Says I didn't give any examples of Kakashis trickery.
>Goes on to TRY and counter these examples.

No, you gave no valid examples of how Kakashi beats him. You gave shit examples that don't connect with your argument nor were they specific.

Well if a trap doesn't get you off guard it isn't a successful trap then, is it? And if Kakashi can't outsmart Sasuke, he's not smarter than him, is he?

You asking me a dumb question isn't an argument pal.

This is war arc Kakashi vs hebi Sasuke or have you forgot your own conditions. This is the Kakashi that spammed kamui like it was nobodys business.

Oh look. Daft poster by day, Captain Obvious by night.

No shit logic here. Power ups still saved them where experience could have. You can't deny the manga facts.

No, experience wouldn't have saved them. Experience doesn't make you more powerful. The people who are the strongest aren't always the ones who have been fighting longest so you can stop using shit logic now pal.

Peeps asking how superior intellect & intelligence can help Kakashi win when he has:

a superior sharingan to try genjutsu. (**** it. It's worth a shot. Sasuke has his hatred for Itachi to thank for getting out of tsukuyomi IF you don't believe Itachi let him out.)

Lol is this guy out of his mind? Kakashi? Superior Sharingan to Sasuke? Gtfo pal. I'll go with Indra's reincarnate and a full blooded Uchiha who has gotten compliments on the power of his eyes from Kakashi over the guy who uses a borrowed eye from Obito.

Perhaps a really well timed. Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique. As Sasuke shown vs Danzo. No matter how good you are at genjutsu resistance. It's all about dat timing & surprise.

Danzo had no Sharingan on, Sasuke does. Nice try though.

Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique. This could legit end Sasuke.

Lol I think the time to stop taking you seriously has finally come. He can try this, but it'd just result in him getting shocked by Nagashi and then Sasuke escaping, or Sasuke simply breaks his grip and escapes.

Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique. Even Itachi didn't see this one coming when Kakashi used it.

Some gates to open, perhaps to combat curse seal.

Yet he evaded it. 1st Gate isn't doing shit to bridge the gap between Base Sasuke and CS2 Sasuke. I really suggest you get the feats to prove otherwise.

Eye Mind Reading. Superior sharingan. Once again, it's a bit if a stretch though.

A bit of a stretch? More like the dumbest thing posted on this thread.

Hidden Mist jutsu & silent killing which sharingan can't see through so Sasuke is stuck in the mud while Kakashi has his smelling (which is superior to part 1 Kiba) & dogs.

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Underlined is anime only, and what mud are you even talking about? :lol

Shadow clones for feints & distractions

Easily reacted to.

Lightning clones for traps

Fall into the same category as above.

Lightning Release: Lightning Beast Tracking Fang might shock Sasuke. No pun intended. Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Or Sasuke just evades or overpowers with Black Chidori.

Lightning Transmission can WRAP AROUND a target and restrain them.

Strong fist to help dominate physically & with taijutsu (not that he needs it.)

Irrelevant since Sasuke doesn't fight with Taijutsu, and Kakashi isn't doing anything to him with Taijutsu when Sasuke uses a blade.

Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique. Shit is devastating. Lightning release won't get you out of it either.

No, not really it's not. All he does is evade or block with the wings that blocked C2.

Water formation wall with lightning release has caught and stunned Sasuke before whem Darui used it. Kakashi also has that but Sasuke has no susano this time to hide behind.

It caught Sasuke, they shocked him yet he landed and was perfectly fine afterward.


Makibishi & wire strings come in useful for traps. Not to mention war arc Kakashi has the executioners blade.

No, that's a blade he possessed for a single battle, then he dumped it and never used it again. When you can actually explain how he uses any of that to set a trap then we can talk. Your vague answers and listing of Kakashi's moveset doesn't help you here pal.



Lol I think I found the winner of the dumbest poster on this thread award though.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Lol barrage of feints? Kamui? Amaterasu? Wtf? Dude. This is Hebi Sasuke vs. Kakashi without Kamui first of all, second of all, a barrage of clone feints? From the guy who has shown that he can't make many clones? Come on now.



No, if you are too stupid to provide an argument using that arsenal then that's your problem kiddo. I'm not going to make an argument for you and for myself, even though you could use the help.



No, it doesn't, but Kakashi lacks the tools necessary to outsmart and kill Sasuke. Twisting my words and not addressing them is just a concession on your part.


>And then states that he only got that compliment because he had the strength and tools when he fought Kaguya, tools he doesn't have here.

:lol You NDS cats really need to learn how to read.



No, you gave no valid examples of how Kakashi beats him. You gave shit examples that don't connect with your argument nor were they specific.


You asking me a dumb question isn't an argument pal.



Oh look. Daft poster by day, Captain Obvious by night.



No, experience wouldn't have saved them. Experience doesn't make you more powerful. The people who are the strongest aren't always the ones who have been fighting longest so you can stop using shit logic now pal.



Lol is this guy out of his mind? Kakashi? Superior Sharingan to Sasuke? Gtfo pal. I'll go with Indra's reincarnate and a full blooded Uchiha who has gotten compliments on the power of his eyes from Kakashi over the guy who uses a borrowed eye from Obito.



Danzo had no Sharingan on, Sasuke does. Nice try though.



Lol I think the time to stop taking you seriously has finally come. He can try this, but it'd just result in him getting shocked by Nagashi and then Sasuke escaping, or Sasuke simply breaks his grip and escapes.



Yet he evaded it. 1st Gate isn't doing shit to bridge the gap between Base Sasuke and CS2 Sasuke. I really suggest you get the feats to prove otherwise.



A bit of a stretch? More like the dumbest thing posted on this thread.

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Underlined is anime only, and what mud are you even talking about? :lol



Easily reacted to.



Fall into the same category as above.


Or Sasuke just evades or overpowers with Black Chidori.

Lightning Transmission can WRAP AROUND a target and restrain them.

Irrelevant since Sasuke doesn't fight with Taijutsu, and Kakashi isn't doing anything to him with Taijutsu when Sasuke uses a blade.



No, not really it's not. All he does is evade or block with the wings that blocked C2.

Water formation wall with lightning release has caught and stunned Sasuke before whem Darui used it. Kakashi also has that but Sasuke has no susano this time to hide behind.


No, that's a blade he possessed for a single battle, then he dumped it and never used it again. When you can actually explain how he uses any of that to set a trap then we can talk. Your vague answers and listing of Kakashi's moveset doesn't help you here pal.



Lol I think I found the winner of the dumbest poster on this thread award though.

As I said if you're too stupid to use your imagination it's not my fault.

Kakashi has 2 whole points more than Sasuke in intelligence in the databooks from what I remember? That's out of ****ing 5. That's a lot. That's like 40% smarter...

I'm not going to write a battle for you. You said Kakashi doesn't have the tools to concoct a win. I proved you wrong.

@bold: are you serious? And you call me daft. It's a figure of speech/expression. Christ.

My "dumb" questions seemed to prove a point as they didn't get an answer.

You think wimgs can tank that waterfall jutsu when it's described to leave damage one the landscape that resembles a natural disaster...it'd obviously be better as a near final move btw. All this talk of VS section superiority and you come out with this shit.

Once again "Clones get reacted to cuz...just cuz" Obito couldn't react. Itachi barely reacted yet he still couldn't see Kakashi underground.

War arc Kakashi had the blade regardless and it's a plausible variation given the circumstances given. Not that it matters much.

"Sasuke doesn't fight with taijutsu". BS. His sword has been sent flying and he has been disarmed plenty of times. Check the databook stats. Kakashi dominates in CQC.

As for Danzo. He had Shisuis eye and an arm full of sharingan, knew he was fighting a genjutsu user and still didn't notice he had actually lost an extra sharingan than he thought.

Experience is everything from training to actual fighting so obviously xp can help.

Stats speak for themselves at the end of the day.

Asking me how Kakashi outsmarts Sasuke is like asking how does Sasuke stab Sakura. He can use any combo/method/weapon/jutsu he likes. I'm just stating possibilities. One I didn't even remember and a few are stretches as I've said but MS > 3T btw. Just pick and choose a couple of jutsu. Most of em are winners or can be repeated enough to be so since war arc Kakashis reserves are so high.

 

[Curse Mark]

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holy shit dude you butchered that quote. edit that shit.

 

[Haizaki]

Slightly forgot about Kenjutsu.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

holy shit dude you butchered that quote. edit that shit.

I tried and it did the same

Screw it. He'll know it's after the quote box....I hope...

 

[Haizaki]

LOL how many of y'all panic when you see KidGamer on a thread for more than 5 mins LMFAO.

 

[KidGamer65]

As I said if you're too stupid to use your imagination it's not my fault.

If you aren't going to bring an argument don't expect me to make one for you. My imagination is used to make my own argument. No one is even telling you to write a fight, just tell us how X leads Sasuke to his defeat. Really that simple pal.

And if that is too hard for you then go back to NDS and shitpost.

Kakashi has 2 whole points more than Sasuke in intelligence in the databooks from what I remember? That's out of ****ing 5. That's a lot. That's like 40% smarter...

Irrelevant if he doesn't have the tools necessary to outsmart, trick and kill Sasuke.

I'm not going to write a battle for you. You said Kakashi doesn't have the tools to concoct a win. I proved you wrong.

No, you didn't. You listed his arsenal and then failed to explain how it works.

@bold: are you serious? And you call me daft. It's a figure of speech/expression. Christ.

My "dumb" questions seemed to prove a point as they didn't get an answer.

No, not really. The answer has been posted in this discussion, whether it be by me or you nor do your shitty questions actually prove your point.

You think wimgs can tank that waterfall jutsu when it's described to leave damage one the landscape that resembles a natural disaster...it'd obviously be better as a near final move btw. All this talk of VS section superiority and you come out with this shit.

Sorry kiddo. C2's feats are superior thus C2 is stronger. It's really that simple. Using flowery language from the databook isn't going to erase the lackluster feats it has in the Manga nor is it going to prove your point.

Once again "Clones get reacted to cuz...just cuz" Obito couldn't react. Itachi barely reacted yet he still couldn't see Kakashi underground.

-Obito was never faced with a feint in the way that'd give Sasuke trouble. Obito was attacked, he attacked back, and thought he killed the clone. Unless Kakashi can replicate this strategy without Kamui, you don't have a point.

-Itachi reacted and dodged his attack. That's not "barely" reacting. And that was 30% Itachi. Sasuke w/ Curse Mark enhancements easily replicates the same thing, or instead of dodging he simply blocks.

War arc Kakashi had the blade regardless and it's a plausible variation given the circumstances given. Not that it matters much.

He had it for a single fight, and dropped it. So it's not in his arsenal.

"Sasuke doesn't fight with taijutsu". BS. His sword has been sent flying and he has been disarmed plenty of times. Check the databook stats. Kakashi dominates in CQC.

Are you really this stupid? Sasuke being disarmed is irrelevant unless you are actually going to show me the feats that allow Kakashi to disarm Sasuke in battle. Since he can't disarm Sasuke, he's not going to fight using Taijutsu, thus he gets wrecked. The only DB stat that relates to anything CQC that Kakashi has over Sasuke is Taijutsu, the one category that doesn't matter since Sasuke uses Kenjutsu.

-Base Sasuke=Base Kakashi in speed and strength as shown by the DB stats.
-Add Sharingan and it's balanced.
-Add Curse Mark and it's not balanced. It's lopsided in Sasuke's favor, but I fully expect another idiotic response from you.

As for Danzo. He had Shisuis eye and an arm full of sharingan, knew he was fighting a genjutsu user and still didn't notice he had actually lost an extra sharingan than he thought.

Shisui's eye was under wraps. Go read the Manga before you reply. It'll save you a lot of time. And lol arm full of Sharingan? He only had one Sharingan at that time and it's irrelevant since he can't see out of those eyes unless you are going to argue his optic nerve somehow relocated to his f*cking arm. :lol

Experience is everything from training to actual fighting so obviously xp can help.

Stats speak for themselves at the end of the day.

I agree 100% my friend. DB ranks base statistics.

-Sasuke=Kakashi in strength.
-Sasuke=Kakashi in speed.

Thus CS Sasuke>>Kakashi in strength, speed and pretty much every other physical area.

Kakashi trumps in taijutsu, but Sasuke uses Kenjutsu and he has the boosts from the Curse Mark. Kakashi gets raped unless you think Kakashi w/ Kunai can beat CS2 Sasuke with a sword, and if you think that then:

A. You need to read the Manga again.
B. You need to prove it, because Kakashi has no advantage in that situation.

asking me how Kakashi outsmarts Sasuke is like asking how does Sasuke stab Sakura. He can use any combo/method/weapon/jutsu he likes. I'm just stating possibilities. One I didn't even remember and a few are stretches as I've said but MS > 3T btw. Just pick and choose a couple of jutsu. Most of em are winners or can be repeated enough to be so since war arc Kakashis reserves are so high.

No, it really isn't. Sasuke stabbing Sakura is easily answered because stabbing is a simple motion and he's that much faster than she is. Kakashi has 1.5 points above Sasuke in intelligence, but he lacks the tools to capitalize on this and I don't know how many times one will have to tell you this before you get it through your head. If the answer to that question is as easy as "How does Sasuke end up stabbing Sakura" you should easily be able to answer instead of dancing around the damn question like a pro.

-MS>3-T doesn't change the fact that Kakashi's Genjutsu isn't doing anything to Sasuke when Sharingan sees through Genjutsu.
-Clone feints+kill strikes aren't happening when Sasuke will know to expect these the whole battle.
-Underground attacks were dodged by Itachi, Sasuke would easily block at the very least if not outright evade. :lol
-CQC? Kakashi dies a terrible death and I've explained why to you and 3 others in this thread.

 

[Magnolius]

Lol barrage of feints? Kamui? Amaterasu? Wtf? Dude. This is Hebi Sasuke vs. Kakashi without Kamui first of all, second of all, a barrage of clone feints? From the guy who has shown that he can't make many clones? Come on now.

I'm more than sure that a War Arc Kakashi is capable of making 5 or more shadow clones :sdo: I already edited that Kamui was restricted, and yes, Amaterasu would be a big problem for Kakashi.

But if you want to be a **** about this debate and instead of discussing the matter more maturely, by all means make a fool of yourself :sdo2:

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm more than sure that a War Arc Kakashi is capable of making 5 or more shadow clones :sdo: I already edited that Kamui was restricted, and yes, Amaterasu would be a big problem for Kakashi.

But if you want to be a **** about this debate and instead of discussing the matter more maturely, by all means make a fool of yourself :sdo2:

Yeah, no. He was worried about making a single clone in canon so you can forget about him fighting effectively after making 5, let alone more than that. So we can stop making feats up for the guy that contradict his performance in the Manga? But I can't blame you, if you don't make up feats then you come to the conclusion that Sasuke wipes the floor with him.

@bold: Lmfao, you really are retarded. Amaterasu? In a HEBI Sasuke vs. Kakashi thread?

Head back to NDS pal. Come back when you know how to read the Manga and the thread. I'll discuss the matter more maturely with someone who doesn't reach into their ass to find their argumentation.

 

[BLAZE]

Jutsu don't matter now, is that it? XD

You really think Kakashi is a slug...damn.

Feats oh wait

Also. I'm not a fan of databooks but apparently. In the third one anyway. Kakashi beats Sasuke by 3 points

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Spew BS about my Databook scan then links me to DB stats
those are base stats so add sharingan both kakashi and sasuke are equal but then CM and later CM2[senjutsu that boosts abilities] and it shifts in sasuke's favour

Pretty big difference there in intelligence, you might notice.

yeah and who denied it

 

[Curse Mark]

Yeah, no. He was worried about making a single clone in canon so you can forget about him fighting effectively after making 5, let alone more than that. So we can stop making feats up for the guy that contradict his performance in the Manga? But I can't blame you, if you don't make up feats then you come to the conclusion that Sasuke wipes the floor with him.

@bold: Lmfao, you really are retarded. Amaterasu? In a HEBI Sasuke vs. Kakashi thread?

Head back to NDS pal. Come back when you know how to read the Manga and the thread. I'll discuss the matter more maturely with someone who doesn't reach into their ass to find their argumentation.

That was kakashi who was fighting on the battlefield and had used a raikiri just before that.

 

[KidGamer65]

That was kakashi who was fighting on the battlefield and had used a raikiri just before that.

He had enough stamina to use Kamui mulitiple times after that, which is where his major stamima boost came from. If you want to claim that he can use 5+ clones effectively in battle then you are going to have to back it up with something concrete.

Lol its like people forget that clones split your chakra on half. More chakra intensive than anything Kakashi has and that includes Kamui.

 

[Curse Mark]

He had enough stamina to use Kamui mulitiple times after that, which is where his major stamima boost came from. If you want to claim that he can use 5+ clones effectively in battle then you are going to have to back it up with something concrete.

Lol its like people forget that clones split your chakra on half. More chakra intensive than anything Kakashi has and that includes Kamui.

Not arguing with the kid, just a comment.
What do you think takes more chakra, making 1 shadow clone or 1 human sized kamui?

 

[KidGamer65]

Not arguing with the kid, just a comment.
What do you think takes more chakra, making 1 shadow clone or 1 human sized kamui?

A shadow clone takes more chakra as Kamui on a human sized target doesn't take up half the user's chakra. Otherwise Kakashi never would've pulled off the stuff he did in the war.

 

[Curse Mark]

A shadow clone takes more chakra as Kamui on a human sized target doesn't take up half the user's chakra. Otherwise Kakashi never would've pulled off the stuff he did in the war.

But I thought clones just split your chakra into 2, not take half your chakra to make?

 

[KidGamer65]

But I thought clones just split your chakra into 2, not take half your chakra to make?

Those are the same thing.

-Original has 100.
-Uses Shadow Clone Jutsu to make a clone.
-Original is down to 50 and that 50 is used to create a new clone.

If the clone is cancelled then the chakra comes back to you, but if the clone isn't cancelled and it's destroyed instead, the chakra doesn't go to you and thus the original is left with half chakra.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

If you aren't going to bring an argument don't expect me to make one for you. My imagination is used to make my own argument. No one is even telling you to write a fight, just tell us how X leads Sasuke to his defeat. Really that simple pal.

And if that is too hard for you then go back to NDS and shitpost.



Irrelevant if he doesn't have the tools necessary to outsmart, trick and kill Sasuke.



No, you didn't. You listed his arsenal and then failed to explain how it works.



No, not really. The answer has been posted in this discussion, whether it be by me or you nor do your shitty questions actually prove your point.



Sorry kiddo. C2's feats are superior thus C2 is stronger. It's really that simple. Using flowery language from the databook isn't going to erase the lackluster feats it has in the Manga nor is it going to prove your point.


-Obito was never faced with a feint in the way that'd give Sasuke trouble. Obito was attacked, he attacked back, and thought he killed the clone. Unless Kakashi can replicate this strategy without Kamui, you don't have a point.

-Itachi reacted and dodged his attack. That's not "barely" reacting. And that was 30% Itachi. Sasuke w/ Curse Mark enhancements easily replicates the same thing, or instead of dodging he simply blocks.


He had it for a single fight, and dropped it. So it's not in his arsenal.


Are you really this stupid? Sasuke being disarmed is irrelevant unless you are actually going to show me the feats that allow Kakashi to disarm Sasuke in battle. Since he can't disarm Sasuke, he's not going to fight using Taijutsu, thus he gets wrecked. The only DB stat that relates to anything CQC that Kakashi has over Sasuke is Taijutsu, the one category that doesn't matter since Sasuke uses Kenjutsu.

-Base Sasuke=Base Kakashi in speed and strength as shown by the DB stats.
-Add Sharingan and it's balanced.
-Add Curse Mark and it's not balanced. It's lopsided in Sasuke's favor, but I fully expect another idiotic response from you.

Shisui's eye was under wraps. Go read the Manga before you reply. It'll save you a lot of time. And lol arm full of Sharingan? He only had one Sharingan at that time and it's irrelevant since he can't see out of those eyes unless you are going to argue his optic nerve somehow relocated to his f*cking arm. :lol

Experience is everything from training to actual fighting so obviously xp can help.



I agree 100% my friend. DB ranks base statistics.

-Sasuke=Kakashi in strength.
-Sasuke=Kakashi in speed.

Thus CS Sasuke>>Kakashi in strength, speed and pretty much every other physical area.

Kakashi trumps in taijutsu, but Sasuke uses Kenjutsu and he has the boosts from the Curse Mark. Kakashi gets raped unless you think Kakashi w/ Kunai can beat CS2 Sasuke with a sword, and if you think that then:

A. You need to read the Manga again.
B. You need to prove it, because Kakashi has no advantage in that situation.



No, it really isn't. Sasuke stabbing Sakura is easily answered because stabbing is a simple motion and he's that much faster than she is. Kakashi has 1.5 points above Sasuke in intelligence, but he lacks the tools to capitalize on this and I don't know how many times one will have to tell you this before you get it through your head. If the answer to that question is as easy as "How does Sasuke end up stabbing Sakura" you should easily be able to answer instead of dancing around the damn question like a pro.

-MS>3-T doesn't change the fact that Kakashi's Genjutsu isn't doing anything to Sasuke when Sharingan sees through Genjutsu.
-Clone feints+kill strikes aren't happening when Sasuke will know to expect these the whole battle.
-Underground attacks were dodged by Itachi, Sasuke would easily block at the very least if not outright evade. :lol
-CQC? Kakashi dies a terrible death and I've explained why to you and 3 others in this thread.

I haven't brought an argument yet I've listed paragraphs of viable options for Kakashi. If you don't think intelligence and exp aren't factors...I really can't help you. Just want to point out as well that MS Kakashi was certain that he could kill MS Sasuke.

How the hell is it irrelevant when their tools and arsenals are almost identical. That's what gives Kakashi the edge. Just read back to BZ's quote.

outsmart
aʊtˈsmɑːt/Submit
verb
defeat or get the better of (someone) by being clever or cunning.
"the hero is invariably outsmarted by the heroine"
synonyms: outwit, out-think, outmanoeuvre, outplay, be cleverer than, steal a march on, trick, make a fool of, get the better of; informaloutfox, pull a fast one on, put one over on, run/make rings round; datedoutjockey
"buyers and sellers attempt to outsmart each other"


I like how you put my bold bit with the next bit so you didn't have to reply to the bit that made you sound like an idiot.

C2 feats like what? trying to outrun Itachi's amaterasu and getting hit with it anyway? What are these magnificent endurance feats I'm missing?

and then starts the string of traps Kakashi makes until Sasuke can't keep up. Itachi commented on the effectiveness of the technique btw and how he couldn't see him underground as far as I remember.

Still War arc Kakashi, hence the variations in the games etc. inb4 "ermagerd. He brought up the games roflcopter."

Am I really stupid for watching Sasuke get disarmed repeatedly? lol It's obvious that Kakashi triumphs in anything taijustu related. Sasuke has the edge in ninjutsu diversity and that's about it. Intelligence doesn't come into fighting, is that what you're saying?

Sharingan can still see through things. Go and re-read the manga herpa derp. Subtle genjustu still works better than obvious genjutsu, especially when you are distracting and more intelligent to go with it.

CS is very limited. You're acting as if it's a massive Hago buff. CS will give senjutsu enhanced attacks which Kakashi will dodge and deal with by tricks and what not until Sasuke tires himself out. It's a pretty simple concept, really. You're overhyping it imo. The powerup couldn't help him dodge ama and in that fight he did what? 3 fireballs and replaced a wing with snakes? Looking at the Deidera fight, too. CS was used for a sneak attack yet Sasuke had the element of surprise for that too. Kakashi doesn't have to go into a raikiri/black chidori clash if he doesn't want to.

Sasuke can stab Sakura in multiple ways just as a smarter person can win a game of chess or w/e mutliple ways. Once again "Herpa derp. No tools to capitalize on intelligence." When they almost the same but Kakashi is smarter & BZ's quote says it all. I can answer the question of how Sasuke stabs Sakura because it's so easy. He can stab her in any lethal point just as Kakashi can win with any lethal justu. There are just some finishing jutsu/techniques that are more likely to be used than others.

-Already explained that pros can be genjutsu'd subtly if done right e.g Sasuke on Danzo.
-Same could be said for Kakashi.
-Then Kakashi will provide the necessary distractions etc. required.
-I've explained why this doesn't happen.

Intelligence helps in every category and is overall more valuable than a shitty "speed buff". At the end of all this that's what is boils down to. Which you think is more valuable.

Congrats though, You got the clone/kamui question right. :th: