How the Hyuuga actually stack up against Uchiha?

[KCMNaruto]

It is been a long time since I have been here last time , I am glad there is still so much life in this forum, especially discussion section ;p. I would like to contribute my own thoughts in this thread so here I go.

I am not including Madara or Sasuke due to Indra reincarnation stuff. Well Sasuke would be ok, but just until Hebi Sasuke version because around this time Sage of six paths was mentioned so it was possible Kishi may came up with idea of his sons around this time. I believe EMS also shouldn't be taken in consideration due to it being refered in manga as Indra's influence on uchiha. It is not even certain that Uchiha may gain EMS without Indra's involvement.

Keeping all that in mind I believe average branch Hyuuga should be around 2tomoe Uchiha with speed and strength equalized.

Main family Hyuuga should be roundly equal to 3tomoe Uchiha with speed and strength equalized.

Now keep all I mentioned The most powerfull Uchiha would be the one with MS and that was Itachi. The most powerfull Hyuuga is definietly Hiashi Hyuuga and considering his short show off in struggle of shinobi against overhelming Juubi I believe Hiashi would be up slightly above Fugaku's level being probably on par with MS Itachi (Yata & Totsuka and Susanoo excluded. ) with his feats before Sasuke vs Itachi showdown. In short.

Hiashi Hyuuga at the MAX ~ nerfed MS Itachi(Yata & Totsuka and Susanoo excluded) before final battle against Sasuke.

Stamina issue of Itachi and disease affecting him would bring Itachi at more disadvantage with time passing. In the end:

MS Itachi > nerfed MS Itachi(Yata & Totsuka and Susanoo excluded) ~ Hebi Sasuke >= Hiashi > Pre Hebi Sasuke ~ Neji war arc

 

[Dark Sonic]

Sadly, this is true. Kishi practically made the Hyuga like Krillin Yamcha and Tien throughout Part II.

On another note,

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[minamoto]

what chapter is that?

indra i need some infos i already told you

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sadly, this is true. Kishi practically made the Hyuga like Krillin Yamcha and Tien throughout Part II.

On another note,

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True, although it could be slight exeggeration. I mean in the end of manga and the movie Kishi tried to reedem Hyuuga so it could be retcon even if slight difference. IN the end I believe it could go down like that:

MS Itachi > nerfed MS Itachi(Yata & Totsuka and Susanoo excluded) ~ Hebi Sasuke >= Hiashi > Pre Hebi Sasuke ~ Neji war arc

 

[Styles]

They can't it's that simple. :bdpf:

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

Who said they were??

 

[NarutoX28]

Didn't have to read your entire post, only read half of it and you still negged those Hyuuga fanboys.

 

[LoZelda101]

fodder uchihas. maybe.
but not against sharingan users who actually made a name out of themselves. (that includes kakashi)

 

[NarutoX28]

fodder uchihas. maybe.
but not against sharingan users who actually made a name out of themselves. (that includes kakashi)

Those Fodder Uchihas were feared and respected to the point where they could trigger a World War if their Coup was actually successful, so they were very powerful and much more hyped in comparison to the Hyuuga Clan.

 

[Remedy]

I'll put base Hyuugas over or on par with base Uchihas (1t to 3t sharigan)

Though this is a fail and unfair representation, its more so like saying how does part 1 Naruto stack up against War Arc Sasuke. Hyuuga got no developement after part 1, and in part 2, the Uchiha got super haxed, with only a select few clans who could rival them. Furthermore they were part of the centerfold to the story, pushing away development for other characters and clans. Even in the end of manga, the Uchiha is still the most developed clan. Any comparison with them to any other clan is trivial, because they got the most development out of the series. This would be a different strory If the Hyuuga dojutsu was explored upon more and they had just as much development and major characters as Uchiha.

 

[Michael]

I'll put base Hyuugas over or on par with base Uchihas (1t to 3t sharigan)

Though this is a fail and unfair representation, its more so like saying how does part 1 Naruto stack up against War Arc Sasuke. Hyuuga got no developement after part 1, and in part 2, the Uchiha got super haxed, with only a select few clans who could rival them. Furthermore they were part of the centerfold to the story, pushing away development for other characters and clans. Even in the end of manga, the Uchiha is still the most developed clan. Any comparison with them to any other clan is trivial, because they got the most development out of the series. This would be a different strory If the Hyuuga dojutsu was explored upon more and they had just as much development and characters as Uchiha.

Exactly my point, nice post.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I was under the impression that most uchiha were fodder because the sharingan was rare amongst them

 

[Dantee]

I'll put base Hyuugas over or on par with base Uchihas (1t to 3t sharigan)

Though this is a fail and unfair representation, its more so like saying how does part 1 Naruto stack up against War Arc Sasuke. Hyuuga got no developement after part 1, and in part 2, the Uchiha got super haxed, with only a select few clans who could rival them. Furthermore they were part of the centerfold to the story, pushing away development for other characters and clans. Even in the end of manga, the Uchiha is still the most developed clan. Any comparison with them to any other clan is trivial, because they got the most development out of the series. This would be a different strory If the Hyuuga dojutsu was explored upon more and they had just as much development and major characters as Uchiha.

Anyone who isn't riding the Byakugan can see this post is a giant excuse. lol, underdevelopment doesn't give you any leverage to say this.

I was under the impression that most uchiha were fodder because the sharingan was rare amongst them

And the BYakugan doesn't automatically place you above someone without sharigan either lmao.

 

[Remedy]

Anyone who isn't riding the Byakugan can see this post is a giant excuse. lol, underdevelopment doesn't give you any leverage to say

Sure it does, 3T is where Uchiha maxed out at the end of part 1 until MS came into play in part 2. Hyuuga could block chakra points, any 3T Uchiha with blocked chakra points are screwed, they can detect and see flow of chakra in themselves or others. The only strong line of attack 3T sharingan has over Byakugan is genjutsu, but as I already stated Hyuuga detecting flow of chakra dispells that.

Now when you stack MS or higher against them, of course Hyuuga don't measure up to inextinguishable fire and spiritual megazords, most clans don't. This isn't a excuse, this is fact.

 

[-immortal-]

Micheal is wack.
Using kaguya feats to say the extend of hyugas lvl is of that power.

Ofcourse when she is the orgin of chakra.
Go back go the cave where you was for the last couple o months LOl

 

[Honord Sage]

The Uchiha are on the Endanger Spices list because the Majority of Uchiha’s only had the Basic Sharigan and Basic doesn’t beat the evolve Sharigan of Madara,Obito,Itachi and Sasuke.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

How did I fail? I simply stated 1 Sole Uchiha (Itachi or Sasuke) is capable of wiping out all Hyuuga in a fight. You seem to have misinterpreted what I was saying, fail.

You failed cause you said a single entity kills a clan. A single entity is not a clan thats why you fail.

 

[minamoto]

Facts Kishi seemingly forgot about.

Sharingan is rare

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The Mangekyou Sharingan is rare for people who have the sharingan.

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Susanno is rare for people with Mangekyou.

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Being an Uchiha was not a guarantee that you would be a badass that no one could f*ck with.

With has much as Kishi wanked them through Tobidara's hype of the Uchiha being the end all be all of ninja clans.

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The Uchiha as a whole were not as OP as Kishi made Sasuke, Itachi, Madara, and Obito.

if you meant the 2nd Madara then i proud of you

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Great thread OP. The average Uchihas's genjutsu lvl is enough to wipe out the Hyuuga. The sharingan just has so much dynamic potential, I hardly see any Hyuuga using CQC to beat them. One member of the Uchiha Clan is enough to wipe out the Hyuuga.

The only blessing to that clan was Neji with his potential in Part 1 which is why I would have liked him to square up with Sasuke to see early in the manga series which dojutsu was more powerful.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Great thread OP. The average Uchihas's genjutsu lvl is enough to wipe out the Hyuuga. The sharingan just has so much dynamic potential, I hardly see any Hyuuga using CQC to beat them. One member of the Uchiha Clan is enough to wipe out the Hyuuga.

The only blessing to that clan was Neji with his potential in Part 1 which is why I would have liked him to square up with Sasuke to see early in the manga series which dojutsu was more powerful.

terrible comparisons