How the Hyuuga actually stack up against Uchiha?

[Dantee]

At underline. Maybe you misinterpret what Im saying about 'Status Symbol'. Im not saying in Hyuuga clan to consider a member as elite Ninja, all Hyuuga need to be a part of main branch. No. I'm just saying Hinata got her Elite status by being a member of main branch and not bcus her display in fight where Neji and even Hanabi is better than her according to Hiashi.

I dont know anything about Hanabi at all but was she considered a part of that elite main branch as well?

I'm serious, you're a uchiha connoisseur, wasn't 2-3t sharingan rare at that point? Even MS was legend with only one known member possessing it (shisui). I don't want to believe the clan was rendered extinct in a single night my only 2 MS users. Especially since 3t and MS aren't heaven and earth in terms of power. There's a difference of course but with a whole clan of them you'd think they'd put up a bigger fight.

What you aren't understanding is that

Skilled ninjas > numbers. Minato solo'd an entire war, Sasuke took on thousands of ninjas by himself. It doesn't particulary matter that two Uchihas killed off the entire clan because 1. they were Uchiha themselves and 2 they were both strong af.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I dont know anything about Hanabi at all but was she considered a part of that elite main branch as well?

What you aren't understanding is that

Skilled ninjas > numbers. Minato solo'd an entire war, Sasuke took on thousands of ninjas by himself. It doesn't particulary matter that two Uchihas killed off the entire clan because 1. they were Uchiha themselves and 2 they were both strong af.

Not yet I think. Never been stated anywhere.

 

[Dantee]

Not yet I think. Never been stated anywhere.

if that was Hinatas sister then ehhh yeah...

 

[To Whatever]

I dont know anything about Hanabi at all but was she considered a part of that elite main branch as well?

What you aren't understanding is that

Skilled ninjas > numbers. Minato solo'd an entire war, Sasuke took on thousands of ninjas by himself. It doesn't particulary matter that two Uchihas killed off the entire clan because 1. they were Uchiha themselves and 2 they were both strong af.

Minato had assistance with his side lobbing his Kunai across the battlefield and also had signs of battle. Itachi was pristine with little to no sign that he was met with any real resistance aside from his emotions and his little brother soloing his headband.



It does matter given what the average uchiha is capable of. Either they were weak at that point and lacked 2-3t or 2-3t isn't all that cracked up to be (the latter being bs).

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Hyuuga were nerfed to make the Uchiha look better. When in reality there are more Hyuuga than Uchiha in Narutoverse. Hyuuga are a better clan cause they have stayed stable for many generation. Respect this supreme clan. When you know they are better than yours.

 

[lndra]

Wasn't that lab of sharingan after the massacre? That was around the time Danzo got his own sharingans. The flashback you're refering to looks like it was during the war period when the senju and Uchiha were still large factions during the war and during the time of Konoha's founding. I agree with them being worse than trash without byakugan since more than half their arsenal relies on their eyes. Obito could very well solo the hyuga with or without itachi. I expect their clan to fair more given their inherit skills such as precog to actually serve some sort of purpose given the feats we've seen with 1-3t users. It didn't even look like Itachi or Obito broke a sweat killing his clan. The only noteworthy resistance was from a child and he managed to land one hit on Itachi.

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I'm not saying anything to try to benefit the hyuga. It's just that given Dantee's explanation on the avg uchiha that it's bs that the clan got wrecked that easily. So either the uchiha were defanged and weak at that point (with 2-3t being among the elite) or it simply means that 2MS is worth their entire clan.



I'm serious, you're a uchiha connoisseur, wasn't 2-3t sharingan rare at that point? Even MS was legend with only one known member possessing it (shisui). I don't want to believe the clan was rendered extinct in a single night my only 2 MS users when the avg uchiha is walking around with 2-3t. Especially since 3t and MS aren't heaven and earth in terms of difference. There's a difference of course but with a whole clan of them you'd think they'd put up a bigger fight.

what chapter is that?

 

[To Whatever]

what chapter is that?

Chapter 403: Tears

 

[Dantee]

Hyuuga were nerfed to make the Uchiha look better. When in reality there are more Hyuuga than Uchiha in Narutoverse. Hyuuga are a better clan cause they have stayed stable for many generation. Respect this supreme clan. When you know they are better than yours.

Hyuuga were nerfed tell me more?

Minato had assistance with his side lobbing his Kunai across the battlefield and also had signs of battle. Itachi was pristine with little to no sign that he was met with any real resistance aside from his emotions and his little brother soloing his headband.



It does matter given what the average uchiha is capable of. Either they were weak at that point and lacked 2-3t or 2-3t isn't all that cracked up to be (the latter being bs).

A clan and war between nations is completely different and a much larger scale at that.
Ever stop to think you just underestimate the strength of certain ninjas. :lol: Which is clearly the case here.

 

[Adam Driver]

Hyuuga were nerfed to make the Uchiha look better. When in reality there are more Hyuuga than Uchiha in Narutoverse. Hyuuga are a better clan cause they have stayed stable for many generation. Respect this supreme clan. When you know they are better than yours.

1 Uchiha can take out all Hyuuga altogether. Uchiha have gone near extinct because they were killed by Uchiha.

 

[To Whatever]

Hyuuga were nerfed tell me more?





A clan and war between nations is completely different and a much larger scale at that.
Ever stop to think you just underestimate the strength of certain ninjas. :lol: Which is clearly the case here.

I'm not underestimating them which is why I said the Uchiha at that point must have been weak or defanged due to the events of the kyuubi incident and losing the war to the senju. If you believe a clan with a bunch of 2-3t uchiha members (which have served during the war irrc) were snuffed by 2 ms users with no sign that they even remotely gave Itachi or Obito a run for their money, then go ahead.

I just think that they were way past their prime and essentially fodders save for a select few. (Sasuke's pop, Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke himself) around the time Itachi and Obito slaughtered them.

 

[Dantee]

I'm not underestimating them which is why I said the Uchiha at that point must have been weak or defanged due to the events of the kyuubi incident and losing the war to the senju. If you believe a clan with a bunch of 2-3t uchiha members (which have served during the war irrc) were snuffed by 2 ms users with no sign that they even remotely gave Itachi or Obito a run for their money, then go ahead.

I just think that they were way past their prime and essentially fodders save for a select few. (Sasuke's pop, Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke himself) around the time Itachi and Obito slaughtered them.

That's why they attacked at night when most of them weren't ready and asleep. The leader let himself be killed and didn't even warn the others. If they were ready for battle the outcome might have been different.

 

[To Whatever]

That's why they attacked at night when most of them weren't ready and asleep. The leader let himself be killed and didn't even warn the others. If they were ready for battle the outcome might have been different.

Regardless of that if you look at the flashback it wasn't exactly a quiet massacre. Unless the Uchiha sleep like the dead a majority of them had to been alerted to fight. There were signs of resistance but none of them shown on him. That is the only thing that makes me question whether the average uchiha had 2-3t. I'm sure the elites were ones who served in the Dainiji Ninkai Taisen and Daisanji Ninkai Taisen and lived.

I'd go on a limb to say non-combatants (uchiha civilian, shopkeepers, women and children, and retirees) took up a large portion of their numbers. That would explain it along with them attacking at night and 2-3t being rare for there to have been no resistance shown on obito or itachi.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Hebi Sasuke slaughters first 2 and with manda takes out hiashi

OT:Hyuga fans[hardcore wanker] are bunch of part 1 enthusiastic morons who actually thought there fav were why the manga was made

I have seen Bullcraps like Neji dodging Susanoo arrow by showing feats of him eascaping Kidomaru arrows.
Neji can defeat MS Sasuke and some goes far enough to spam he can defeat EMS Sasuke
one sprouted Hiashi is on same lvl as Itachi though that was a downer as he has stated Hiashi can defeat EMS Madara
Hinata[with fanfics on her side] can stand against any high tier despite her being one of the weakest of Konaha 11
i haven't seen any other fanbase make such moronic argument and moaning at last kishi didn't give the much screentime

We have great char like Trollkage,Chouji,Tobirama,Raikage's,Mei,Konan,Darui,Mu,Ohnoki with very limited screen time proficient in battles

Edit: @Dantee bruh 32 palms is non canon like half of Hyuga arsenal and appearance :|

Hiashi was able to knock back the Juubi's and thing. I think that can take out Manda. You know it's sad when people are using filler feats.

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OP: I agree. Uchiha>Hyuga. It's always been that way.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Nips;20113741]Wasn't that lab of sharingan after the massacre? That was around the time Danzo got his own sharingans. The flashback you're refering to looks like it was during the war period when the senju and Uchiha were still large factions during the war and during the time of Konoha's founding.

yes to either statements, not sure how that disproves what i said though as the way they are depicted shows a lot possessed the sharingan. itachi explaning how izanagi was spammed among them which is why izanami was created again is another clue.

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I expect their clan to fair more given their inherit skills such as precog to actually serve some sort of purpose given the feats we've seen with 1-3t users. It didn't even look like Itachi or Obito broke a sweat killing his clan. The only noteworthy resistance was from a child and he managed to land one hit on Itachi.

1. those two attacked them in the night when they least expected it
2. they had ms(had to deal with freaking kamui) and were among the best in the clan then. i mean obito at 14 soloed a lot of mist ninjas when he had just newly unlocked his ms yet alone when he is much more experienced.

itachi in base is already well above average uchihas, give him 3t and the gap widens, give him ms and it doubles.

given the above is not all that surprising

I'm not saying anything to try to benefit the hyuga. It's just that given Dantee's explanation on the avg uchiha that it's bs that the clan got wrecked that easily.

already explained above. not to mention he made the thread in relation to hyuuga so his points still stands

So either the uchiha were defanged and weak at that point (with 2-3t being among the elite) or it simply means that 2MS is worth their entire clan.

well we know ms was extremely rare so yes most would be 2t 3t. Ms is a game changer, whether 2 or 3. its .like hashirama and tobirama against the rest of the senju clan, same principle

 

[BLAZE]

Hiashi was able to knock back the Juubi's and thing. I think that can take out Manda.
OP: I agree. Uchiha>Hyuga. It's always been that way.

manda is fast even Aoda was able to move through a large amount of juubi clones without being hurt
Also it pushed Juubi's tail while Manda was alive for a small amount of time after the damage from C4

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Hyuuga were nerfed tell me more?

Uchiha were weak cause they needed wood to feel good about themselves. Hyuuga on the other hand stayed true to there clan. They mastered there own jutsue without any interference from another clan. You know why Hyuuga have white eyes? Its because they represent the pure world they see before them.

1 Uchiha can take out all Hyuuga altogether. Uchiha have gone near extinct because they were killed by Uchiha.

1 Uchiha is not a clan. You fail GG.

 

[Dantee]

Regardless of that if you look at the flashback it wasn't exactly a quiet massacre. Unless the Uchiha sleep like the dead a majority of them had to been alerted to fight. There were signs of resistance but none of them shown on him. That is the only thing that makes me question whether the average uchiha had 2-3t. I'm sure the elites were ones who served in the Dainiji Ninkai Taisen and Daisanji Ninkai Taisen and lived.

I'd go on a limb to say non-combatants (uchiha civilian, shopkeepers, women and children, and retirees) took up a large portion of their numbers. That would explain it along with them attacking at night and 2-3t being rare for there to have been no resistance shown on obito or itachi.

You don't know what occured during the massacre or how they went about it. Obito could have easily snuck up on the strongest members while they were sleeping and finished them off in his dimension. Your whole posts is bias and immense speculation. "The majority of the clan being shopkeepers and kids". :lol: They attacked at night for a reason, it was a sneak attack.

 

[Adam Driver]

Uchiha were weak cause they needed wood to feel good about themselves. Hyuuga on the other hand stayed true to there clan. They mastered there own jutsue without any interference from another clan. You know why Hyuuga have white eyes? Its because they represent the pure world they see before them.


1 Uchiha is not a clan. You fail GG.

How did I fail? I simply stated 1 Sole Uchiha (Itachi or Sasuke) is capable of wiping out all Hyuuga in a fight. You seem to have misinterpreted what I was saying, fail.

 

[Umari Senju]

I'm a fan of the Hyuga over the Uchiha, but the fact of the matter is Dante is not wrong in his assessment. Hyuga are just not as strong as the Uchiha. Plot demanded that Uchiha be stronger. They received better development because they were the main villains. Now sure The Huuga could have used more development. And the Tenseigan should have been introduced in the 700 chapters of the manga and not The Last.

But even then the Hyuga still wouldn't be on par with the Uchiha as the story didn't demand they have a portion of the spotlight. It is what it is.

 

[To Whatever]

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