[Discussion] Why oda why..... ?

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sanji is one of my favorites. hes more human than any of them, if I saw mermaids id be hella horny as well, at least he's not like luffy who's got hancock naked and wasn't even remotely interested
 
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So you are pretty much saying his character is simply a pervert who never grows up? thought there was something more to sanji than simply the overused comedy crap..
Well that's the first thing what comes to mind when someone mention Sanji am I wrong? That's Sanji's personality and that's one of reasons people like him.

So you would rather destroy his character?
 

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thats like usopp not lying anymore or brook not asking to se panties. :p
yea which would be them developing as a character. Ussop as a 40 year old man still being a wimp and lying after all the stuff hes been through would be sad. And Brook with the panties thing is eh, just random in my opinion really has nothing to do with his character.

Well that's the first thing what comes to mind when someone mention Sanji am I wrong? That's Sanji's personality and that's one of reasons people like him.

So you would rather destroy his character?
I would rather his character develop. Unless you are hoping he turns into a pedo like Roshi from dbz..

And the first thing when I think of Sanji is that eyebrow and cooking.:p
 
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So you are pretty much saying his character is simply a pervert who never grows up? thought there was something more to sanji than simply the overused comedy crap..
Oda forgot Sanji was also a trash-talking, no-shit-taking thug who had an utmost respect for food. Shame that aspect of his character was traded in for Ero-cook.
 

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Oda forgot Sanji was also a trash-talking, no-shit-taking thug who had an utmost respect for food. Shame that aspect of his character was traded in for Ero-cook.
Dude exactly trash-talking thug cook was much better. Plus he pretty much turned him into a man-dog in that scan. Oda needs to simply progress with their characters (i'm talking personality wise) and not simply rehash the same old comedic things over and over, to the point where they start defining the character.

Sanji is apparently now defined for his inability to control himself, rather than him being/close to being the best chef on the sea ( an aspect that Oda seems to have just ignored completely now)
 

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Dude exactly trash-talking thug cook was much better. Plus he pretty much turned him into a man-dog in that scan. Oda needs to simply progress with their characters (i'm talking personality wise) and not simply rehash the same old comedic things over and over, to the point where they start defining the character.

Sanji is apparently now defined for his inability to control himself, rather than him being/close to being the best chef on the sea ( an aspect that Oda seems to have just ignored completely now)
Sanji is actually the worst-progressed SH because he's the only one that actually went backwards as a character.
 

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Sanji is actually the worst-progressed SH because he's the only one that actually went backwards as a character.
I feel that Ussop/chopper/nami/Robin are a bit worst. Boy seems to be getting more and more "Scared" as the arcs go. And then on the other hand Chopper... does he even have any sort of progression? Nami and Robin just seem to have fallen into the fan-service department now.


But i agree on Sanji as well, to be honest it really doesn't feel like they've grown at all.
 
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Character development is by no means taking away the negative trades of a character. Oda and pretty much most of the WSJ authors still have the silly idea that plain pervert acts= comedy, which far from the truth or at least it shouldn't be funny, especially when you have been using this shit since ages.

I want you to bring sanji from east blue or any early point in the series and compare him to the one after skip, you'll notice that he's less serious about things, way less calm, and of course ultra triple horny, it's not even love-cook anymore, it's plain awkwardness and childish crap that he didn't use to have before the timeskip. Hell, he could at least have a serious discussion with a female character in TS unlike now where he needs 2 panels of stupid pervert shit.


I say this as an sanji fan but I'm truly disappointed if oda truly thinks that this type of shit should be funny, and so yes, I partly agree that sanji has changed to worse, but not that it matter anyway.
 
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If oda makes their character as mature people then fans will start complaining about its past awesomeness and how or when will this anime will become as it was used to be in the past, there was a thread made on this not so long ago, complaining when will the anime will have ending song and all that shit............
 

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Chill out, It's the year of Sanji.

We will see him develop again.

Besides look at the panel where he just nods to Capone. That's typical bad ass maffia language for let's finish this elsewhere.

I really hope the Vinsmoke family is maffia related and make and that Oda makes some kind of Romeo and Julliet 2.0 version out of this wedding.
 

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Sanji madly flirting is just his character quirk/gag just like all the other Strawhats have their own quirks.

Oda doesn't need to change it and developing sanji doesn't mean that he must stop his flirting antics.
 

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Sanji just appreciates women much more now after being stuck on Okama island for 2 years. I'm not sure if he'll fully recover from that experience.
That's exactly what the OP fails to see. He did get character development, he is even a bigger pervert than he was before because he didn't see a women for 2 years straight.

He's slowly starting to get back to his pre timeskip self, it'll take some time though.

Character development is by no means taking away the negative trades of a character. Oda and pretty much most of the WSJ authors still have the silly idea that plain pervert acts= comedy, which far from the truth or at least it shouldn't be funny, especially when you have been using this shit since ages.

I want you to bring sanji from east blue or any early point in the series and compare him to the one after skip, you'll notice that he's less serious about things, way less calm, and of course ultra triple horny, it's not even love-cook anymore, it's plain awkwardness and childish crap that he didn't use to have before the timeskip. Hell, he could at least have a serious discussion with a female character in TS unlike now where he needs 2 panels of stupid pervert shit.


I say this as an sanji fan but I'm truly disappointed if oda truly thinks that this type of shit should be funny, and so yes, I partly agree that sanji has changed to worse, but not that it matter anyway.
Same thing to you, this is only the case because he was stuck without seeing a women for 2 years straight, he is extra horny rn. He is slowly getting there it will take time for him to recover from that experience.


Even the best of us wouldn't be able to handle not seeing the opposite *** for that long, let alone someone who was already such a big pervert like Sanji. We might not like it, but its what makes sense, having him randomly get over this would be terrible writing.
 
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