[VS] Minato Namikaze VS Kisame Hoshigaki

[NarutoX28]

kisame couldn't react to kcm naruto. He's getting blitzed by minato.

KCM Naruto is faster than Minato.

Regardless, Kisame was extremely weakened and could only hobble off while remaining in his sword and he himself had his back turned. Not a fair comparison at all. Love how people think blitzing an extremely fatigued Kisame who wasn't paying attention is an impressive feat. I guess Base Raikage blitzing Zetsu is an impressive feat as well.

 

[Beans2]

Actually, if Minato is allowed to use outside markings then he could drain the water dome with S/T barrier...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato fans still on this garbage?

... scans speak for themselves.

Minatos shuunshin is not close to raikage talkless of kcm naruto, ftg is not shuunshin, ftg is hiraishin which is teleportation

Literally everything disagrees with you.

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if i remember correctly people were once arguing that ems sasuke was equal to kcm narudo in foot speed. if that statement is considered true then we can say that minato is much faster than kcm naruto because we saw this,

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sasuek arriving minutes later than minato

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Thanks.

KCM Naruto is faster than Minato.

Regardless, Kisame was extremely weakened and could only hobble off while remaining in his sword and he himself had his back turned. Not a fair comparison at all. Love how people think blitzing an extremely fatigued Kisame who wasn't paying attention is an impressive feat. I guess Base Raikage blitzing Zetsu is an impressive feat as well.

Kcm was called slower than minato by yamato. This is reinforced by ay, tsunade, bee, etc.

Doesn't matter unless you have proof his mental reactions slowed down his physical condition is irrelevant. He gets blitzed.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kcm was called slower than minato by yamato. This is reinforced by ay, tsunade, bee, etc.

No he wasn't. Quit making stuff up.

If you want proof that KCM Naruto's faster, then:

C: Lord Raikage's nerve transmissions and his reaction speed are on par with that of Konoha's yellow flash.....Impressive these folks are keeping up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated raiton chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the sharingan will be able to keep up with him. Plus, there's still...

Confirming that Minato's speed and reflexes are only on par with Base Raikage's.

Then we have this:

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Adult B couldn't even see him Flicker and smash Kisame the instant Naruto reached Kisame as opposed to here:

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Minato appeared as a Flash yet Young B reacted in response to Minato being above Raikage and managed to perceive and intercept Minato's strike from a large distance before Minato could even complete his attack meaning that Young B had no problem reacting and perceiving Minato's actual speed.

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KCM Naruto is also described to move just as fast as Minato's usage of Hiraishin and we know Minato got his name from Hiraishin, not his actual speed.

Then, we have Raikage conceding that KCM Naruto was the 2nd person to ever dodge his fastest punch:

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And Minato was only capable of doing so through Hiraishin due to the fact that Minato, through Raikage's reputation, thought it was actually necessary to throw dozens of kunai across the battlefield.

Doesn't matter unless you have proof his mental reactions slowed down his physical condition is irrelevant. He gets blitzed.

Doesn't matter. Kisame wasn't even paying attention to him and his weakened condition prevented him from actually reacting to the attack in the first place.

Doesn't matter anyways because you have no proof that Minato can replicate that feat with his own speed.

 

[NarutoX28]

sasuek arriving minutes later than minato

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So Jugo's Shunshin is on par with EMS Sasukes?

 

[Uchihakil]

No he wasn't. Quit making stuff up.

If you want proof that KCM Naruto's faster, then:

C: Lord Raikage's nerve transmissions and his reaction speed are on par with that of Konoha's yellow flash.....Impressive these folks are keeping up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated raiton chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the sharingan will be able to keep up with him. Plus, there's still...

Confirming that Minato's speed and reflexes are only on par with Base Raikage's.

Then we have this:

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Adult B couldn't even see him Flicker and smash Kisame the instant Naruto reached Kisame as opposed to here:

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Minato appeared as a Flash yet Young B reacted in response to Minato being above Raikage and managed to perceive and intercept Minato's strike from a large distance before Minato could even complete his attack meaning that Young B had no problem reacting and perceiving Minato's actual speed.

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KCM Naruto is also described to move just as fast as Minato's usage of Hiraishin and we know Minato got his name from Hiraishin, not his actual speed.

Then, we have Raikage conceding that KCM Naruto was the 2nd person to ever dodge his fastest punch:

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And Minato was only capable of doing so through Hiraishin due to the fact that Minato, through Raikage's reputation, thought it was actually necessary to throw dozens of kunai across the battlefield.



Doesn't matter. Kisame wasn't even paying attention to him and his weakened condition prevented him from actually reacting to the attack in the first place.

Doesn't matter anyways because you have no proof that Minato can replicate that feat with his own speed.

This exactly this, as I said, minatos SHUUNSHIN is not on par with the raikage, he is only faster due to hiraishin not footspeed, and hiruzen is no where near sasuke in speed, we can only agree on what tobirama said that his shuunshin is better than the other kages but not sasuke, who mostlikely was day dreaming bout what to do after hashis talk and was'nt going at full speed, the kages have a reason to go the battlefield at full speed, sasuke? Naah

 

[Ken Masters]

So Jugo's Shunshin is on par with EMS Sasukes?

saske arrives few seconds earlier. so no

 

[NarutoX28]

saske arrives few seconds earlier. so no

Jugo was a few meters behind EMS Sasuke by the time they reached the battlefield which was at least, miles away from the war.

 

[DMT]

kisame rapes

 

[Zexion~]

Kisame was dealing with Bee who reacted to Minato without much of a problem :lol just saying.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kisame was dealing with Bee who reacted to Minato without much of a problem :lol just saying.

When will people start reading the Manga instead of skimming through the pages and realize that B has never and never will react to Minato's Hiraishin blitz? :lol

 

[Zexion~]

When will people start reading the Manga instead of skimming through the pages and realize that B has never and never will react to Minato's Hiraishin blitz? :lol

Did I say Hiraishin?

Shunsin speed was being argued here and either way Bee reacted to both cases of FTG being used during their confrontation whether it was slower than normal or not :lol surly you can't argue that blatant fact.

 

[KidGamer65]

Did I say Hiraishin?

Shunsin speed was being argued here and either way Bee reacted to both cases of FTG being used during their confrontation whether it was slower than normal or not :lol surly you can't argue that blatant fact.

Doesn't matter what you said considering B only engaged Minato in one fight in this Manga and he never used Shunshin. Lol There was only one case he reacted, and in that case he was the bystander and Minato wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could so even bringing it up is pointless, and the second time wasn't a reaction as Minato didn't even attack. He teleported and held his Kunai above B's head.

 

[Zexion~]

Doesn't matter what you said considering B only engaged Minato in one fight in this Manga and he never used Shunshin. Lol There was only one case he reacted, and in that case he was the bystander and Minato wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could so even bringing it up is pointless, and the second time wasn't a reaction as Minato didn't even attack. He teleported and held his Kunai above B's head.

Wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could have, against someone he just considered to be nearly as fast as himself? Makes no sense, the only thing that slowed it down may have been the draw back to create a stronger impact.

Obviously holding a kunai over your head was a "don't move or I'll kill you scenario" meaning Bee must have pulled out that sword before Minato even had time to realize it A.K.A almost immediately.

Either way both of those instances should have been faster than his Shunsin.

 

[Eng nawashi]

"wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could" , "it wasnt a battle scenario " , "it just happened that he turned his head" ,"he reacted by chance"
That is some of retarded baseless excuses that are only being used when we try to ignore some characters 's feats which dont appeal to us .

EDIT: you should spread some reps before neg'ing ENG Nawashi Again .

 

[NarutoX28]

I'm certain that reacting to Minato's Hiraishin blitz is superior to reacting Minato's Shunshin blitz considering Hiraishin enables him to appear out of nowhere in an instant yet B still reacted to him.

Regardless, I can't see Minato Shunshin blitzing Bee. Minato's speed and reflexes were compared to Base Raikage's and Jugo could react to V1 Raikage's Shunshin blitz.

 

[KidGamer65]

Wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could have, against someone he just considered to be nearly as fast as himself? Makes no sense, the only thing that slowed it down may have been the draw back to create a stronger impact.

Obviously holding a kunai over your head was a "don't move or I'll kill you scenario" meaning Bee must have pulled out that sword before Minato even had time to realize it A.K.A almost immediately.

Either way both of those instances should have been faster than his Shunsin.

Ay's speed is irrelevant. Minato had his back. He couldn't do anything which is why B had to save him, and that's why B was able to save him despite not being anywhere near as fast as Ay himself. Slowing down his attack to add more power to it makes his strike nowhere near as fast. Minato goes from blitzing Obito before he can use Kamui (requires a thought) when he strikes immediately to Killer B being able to intercept from 10m away when he puts power into his strike. Not sure how many times I have to repeat this before the usual offenders stop repeating the same argument.

It being a "don't move or I'll kill you scenario" doesn't change anything I just said now does it? Did he attack? No, he didn't. So you don't have a point. Whether he pulled his sword on Minato seconds after he appeared doesn't matter when he didn't react, so you don't have a feat to cite.

I'm certain that reacting to Minato's Hiraishin blitz is superior to reacting Minato's Shunshin blitz considering Hiraishin enables him to appear out of nowhere in an instant yet B still reacted to him.

Regardless, I can't see Minato Shunshin blitzing Bee. Minato's speed and reflexes were compared to Base Raikage's and Jugo could react to V1 Raikage's Shunshin blitz.

Well of course it is, but it didn't happen now did it? And of course Minato can't Shunshin blitz B or Kisame. Feats for that don't exist, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. Jugo being able to react to Ay's Shunshins says nothing about Ay's reflexes.

wasn't going anywhere near as fast as he could" , "it wasnt a battle scenario " , "it just happened that he turned his head" ,"he reacted by chance"
That is some of retarded baseless excuses that are only being used when we try to ignore some characters 's feats which dont appeal to us .

Sorry. I can't take a retard who thinks Kakashi can react to a Juubi's Jinchuuriki seriously. Cry more about how we don't glorify your favorite character like you do.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Sorry. I can't take a retard who thinks Kakashi can react to a Juubi's Jinchuuriki seriously. Cry more about how we don't glorify your favorite character like you do.

First off I dont care about you taking me seriously .
Think?I dont think Lol. You feel me that I am getting scans from my ass .manga scan already shows kakashi reacting ,mentally at least ,to jin madara and this guy here says I think .I dont know how someone can reach this level of denial.

" who thinks Kakashi can react to a Juubi's Jinchuuriki seriously" Lol .That is your problem .you have a serious problem with kakashi being able to react to a jiubi jin ,even if it is flight speed .
As if no non rikudo chakra character ever reacted to jiubi jin shunshin let alone flight speed .you seems to have an impression that a character like kakashi can never react to jiubi jin which I dont care to since feats say otherwise .

 

[KidGamer65]

First off I dont care about you taking me seriously .
Think?I dont think Lol. You feel me that I am getting scans from my ass .manga scan already shows kakashi reacting ,mentally at least ,to jin madara and this guy here says I think .I dont know how someone can reach this level of denial.

" who thinks Kakashi can react to a Juubi's Jinchuuriki seriously" Lol .That is your problem .you have a serious problem with kakashi being able to react to a jiubi jin ,even if it is flight speed .
As if as if no rikudo chakra character ever reacted to jiubi jin shunshin let alone flight speed of jiubi jin .you seems to have an impression that a character like kakashi can never react to jiubi jin which I dont care to since feats say otherwise .

Sorry buddy. I don't take you seriously enough to make a serious response. If you can't tell what is and isn't a reaction then that's on your dumbass.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Sorry buddy. I don't take you seriously enough to make a serious response. If you can't tell what is and isn't a reaction then that's on your dumbass.

Naruto and sasuke having a ! Marks above thier head on jin obito attacking them is a mental reaction but kakashi havibg the same marks plus turning his head isnt a reaction .that is how the retarded kid tell what is and isnt a reaction Lol .
god help you with your retarded brain .