[Discussion] WHITEBEARD’S GURA PUNCH & GARP’S FIST PUNCH: Which is more destructive?

[-Akuma-]

Whitebeard wanted to kill Akainu too but he just ended up losing half his face and Akainu was able to keep fighting for a long time afterwards.

It also lead to Akainu getting ****ed up and being sent down an hole which ultimately saved him, not to mention this is a WB who had an already existing hole in his chest.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Garp during training was able to topple over 8 mountains and during his fight he out powered a drill that can split an ice continent.
Whitebeard has the devil fruit power to destroy the world but we won't know the amount of effort and way he can actually do it.
By hype Whitebeard should win but as far as feats go, it's still unknown.

 

[KingHashirama]

Destructive power would be Whitebeard's punch. Due to his devil fruit triggering earthquake and what not .

But which one would win in a clash? Im gonna go with Garp's CoA punch. Mountains for punching bag alright.

 

[Yubel]

It also lead to Akainu getting ****ed up and being sent down an hole which ultimately saved him, not to mention this is a WB who had an already existing hole in his chest.

An already existing hole in his chest, and who might have caused that hole in his chest and walked away like it was nothing? Whitebeard was not a threat at that point, his life was spared by Akainu going down that hole contrary to popular belief because he was on his last legs and would've died had Akainu kept fighting him which he was in a prime condition to do as he displayed later.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It also lead to Akainu getting ****ed up and being sent down an hole which ultimately saved him, not to mention this is a WB who had an already existing hole in his chest.

That saved Whitebeard, not Akainu.

Whitebeard left that clash so weak, Teach and his rookie cronies were able to kill him with simple gunshots and sword strikes.

Akainu left that fight with the strength to fight all of Whitebeard's commanders minus two and dozens of pirates, all seasoned fighters of the New World, by himself and received no further injuries.

Whitebeard obviously was in worse condition. Now if a crew that consists of mostly rookie cronies could kill Whitebeard in that state, Akainu definitely could. Even while Whitebeard was in top condition(for his state), Akainu got the jump on him and could have easily killed him if plot didn't demand he thrust his fist into his stomach rather than the center of his face. You gotta be delusional to think Whitebeard could have left that clash in anything but a charred mess.

then i guess garp with the intention of killing or hurting Akainu was a 'joke'? no way
i don't think so, garp would have really hurt or probability killed Akainu if not for sengoku holding him down

Bloodlust equals strength now? Sengoku could have held down Garp because he knew the image of one Marine duking it out with another would have been disgraceful for the Marines, especially when Garp is a face of the military force And/or because Sengoku knew Garp would have been killed.

How is it impossible for Garp to have been the strongest Marine at MF?

Garp is slightly inferior to WB in strength. Akainu would have killed WB, so I have no doubts he can kill Garp.

 

[Bogard]

There is nothing as destructive as Whitebeard's quakes in this world. He has the hype to be a life-wiper

 

[TRE MERCER]

I hate when ppl say wb can destroy Earth with a punch. He can make Earth unhabitable due to the domino affect.

Life wiper smhhh he could even whipe one life with a bloodlusted punch.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Why destroy only eight mountains when you can destroy the whole world!!!

 

[-Akuma-]

An already existing hole in his chest, and who might have caused that hole in his chest and walked away like it was nothing? Whitebeard was not a threat at that point, his life was spared by Akainu going down that hole contrary to popular belief because he was on his last legs and would've died had Akainu kept fighting him which he was in a prime condition to do as he displayed later.

Akainu made it by exploiting WB who was on his knees from illness not from overpowering him. A WB who had been stabbed in the chest prior. Whitebeard was a threat a major threat, he went on to beat the shit out of Akainu even after all of tha and would of bodied him after. He would of died if he kept fighting? That's why he was winning when he sent Akainu down a hole.

 

[-Akuma-]

That saved Whitebeard, not Akainu.

Whitebeard left that clash so weak, Teach and his rookie cronies were able to kill him with simple gunshots and sword strikes.

Akainu left that fight with the strength to fight all of Whitebeard's commanders minus two and dozens of pirates, all seasoned fighters of the New World, by himself and received no further injuries.

Whitebeard obviously was in worse condition. Now if a crew that consists of mostly rookie cronies could kill Whitebeard in that state, Akainu definitely could. Even while Whitebeard was in top condition(for his state), Akainu got the jump on him and could have easily killed him if plot didn't demand he thrust his fist into his stomach rather than the center of his face. You gotta be delusional to think Whitebeard could have left that clash in anything but a charred mess.


Bloodlust equals strength now? Sengoku could have held down Garp because he knew the image of one Marine duking it out with another would have been disgraceful for the Marines, especially when Garp is a face of the military force And/or because Sengoku knew Garp would have been killed.


Garp is slightly inferior to WB in strength. Akainu would have killed WB, so I have no doubts he can kill Garp.

He left the fight weak but he was literally winning when he was fighting Akainu and he was beating Teach before getting shot in his chest, you know the gaping open wound that was there prior.


Akainu was able to fight all of them because he was a logia, at that pint Vista and Marco coudn't even fully bypass his logia defense, you think a Jozu-less, Ace-less and WBless WB pirates were going to? Just because WB were killing him doesn't mean Akainu would, WB was beating Teach in an one on one before he could shot, while Teach was able to negate his DF. WB was winning his second fight while in that state with Akakinu. Even Akainu wasn't confident he could beat him, hence why he got Squard to stab him.


Garp was slightly weaker than a fresh WB, Akainu would of lost to a battered and beaten WB. Fresh WB>Old Garp>Injured WB>Akainu

 

[Yubel]

Akainu made it by exploiting WB who was on his knees from illness not from overpowering him. A WB who had been stabbed in the chest prior. Whitebeard was a threat a major threat, he went on to beat the shit out of Akainu even after all of tha and would of bodied him after. He would of died if he kept fighting? That's why he was winning when he sent Akainu down a hole.

Dude bottom line is Akainu was fresh even after that asswhooping and Whitebeard had one foot in the grave already. If they had continued to fight Whitebeard would've gotten killed.

 

[-Akuma-]

Dude bottom line is Akainu was fresh even after that asswhooping and Whitebeard had one foot in the grave already. If they had continued to fight Whitebeard would've gotten killed.

Akainu was not Fresh at all, please stop deluding your self. He looked like he was in an better condition Wb which doesn't matter because WB has much better durability and endurance. WB would of continued the onslaught if he didn't fall down.

 

[ToshiZO]

Akainu was not Fresh at all, please stop deluding your self. He looked like he was in an better condition Wb which doesn't matter because WB has much better durability and endurance. WB would of continued the onslaught if he didn't fall down.

No WB doesnt have much better durability or endurance. Akainu tanked two of WB's absolute strongest attacks and then went on to fight other top tiers/high tiers.

We dont know the limit of Akainus endurance since WB's strongest attacks werent even close to putting him down.

Its much closer than you are making it.

 

[-Akuma-]

No WB doesnt have much better durability or endurance. Akainu tanked two of WB's absolute strongest attacks and then went on to fight other top tiers/high tiers.

We dont know the limit of Akainus endurance since WB's strongest attacks werent even close to putting him down.

Its much closer than you are making it.

Akainu was bested by his move though he wasn't killed, WB by farr to the most damage please show me a list of what Akainu took and compare to what WB took. Akainu took damage and then fought a bunch of people who couldn't bypass his logia body.

 

[ToshiZO]

Akainu was bested by his move though he wasn't killed, WB by farr to the most damage please show me a list of what Akainu took and compare to what WB took. Akainu took damage and then fought a bunch of people who couldn't bypass his logia body.

Lmfao Akainu faced against New World veterans and high ranking commanders, a top tier in Marco. Clear downplaying going on.

 

[-Akuma-]

Lmfao Akainu faced against New World veterans and high ranking commanders, a top tier in Marco. Clear downplaying going on.

The same Marco and Vista who couldn't bypass his logia body when they tried? Their two strongest remaining members couldn't hurt Akainu at that point, what makes yo think the others could.

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[ToshiZO]

The same Marco and Vista who couldn't bypass his logia body when they tired? Their two strongest remaining members couldn't hurt Akainu at that point, what makes yo think the others could.

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what the heck are you talking about LOL? That's not even the point. The point is he went on to fight people of this caliber. He had plenty left in the tank. It only speaks about Akainu's level of haki that those two couldn't properly hurt him.

And yea the same Marco that sent Kizaru and Aokiji flying meters away. The same Marco who no Admiral managed to damage properly, the same Marco that was said to be able to take down Teach who WB couldn't even come close to finishing.

 

[-Akuma-]

what the heck are you talking about LOL? That's not even the point. The point is he went on to fight people of this caliber. He had plenty left in the tank. It only speaks about Akainu's level of haki that those two couldn't properly hurt him.

And yea the same Marco that sent Kizaru and Aokiji flying meters away. The same Marco who no Admiral managed to damage properly, the same Marco that was said to be able to take down Teach who WB couldn't even come close to finishing.

That is the point, none of them could hit him period? If none of them can even hit him that makes it impressive? He walked around fighting people who couldn't harm him, while WB went on to fit BB and co, people who could cause him harm and negate his main offense. WB was handling BB easily after until his crew stepped in.


The same Marco who couldn't hit Akainu along with Vista? The same Marco who's WILLPOWER had dropped dramatically because Ace had just died and WB followed soon after? Yeah THAT MARCO fought Akainu, the Whitebeard Pirates who were grieve stricken. Unless you're implying Akainu has much better haki then his Admiral peers because Marco couldn't touch him.

 

[ToshiZO]

That is the point, none of them could hit him period? If none of them can even hit him that makes it impressive? He walked around fighting people who couldn't harm him, while WB went on to fit BB and co, people who could cause him harm and negate his main offense. WB was handling BB easily after until his crew stepped in.


The same Marco who couldn't hit Akainu along with Vista? The same Marco who's WILLPOWER had dropped dramatically because Ace had just died and WB followed soon after? Yeah THAT MARCO fought Akainu, the Whitebeard Pirates who were grieve stricken. Unless you're implying Akainu has much better haki then his Admiral peers because Marco couldn't touch him.

Marco did touch Akainu what are you talking about? Akainu felt the attack it just wasn't strong enough and he pushed Akainu several meters back.

Lmao am I supposed to feel bad for Marco feeling down? Who cares the fact of the matter is Akainu went on to take people of this caliber on. Whether they could hurt him properly or not is not even the point lol, the point is he fought them and had enough energy to do so. He had enough energy to duke it out with top tiers and high tiers.

And don't blame Akainu for being THAT strong. Its like you're blaming Akainu for being strong enough to withstand attacks from Marco and the rest and WB for not having good enough Haki which he clearly didn't as even fodders managed to get to his body.

You're basically agreeing with me by saying Akainu was strong enough to withstand attacks from Marco and the rest. If he was weakened to a certain point......he would be much more vulnerable to attacks from Marco, but clearly WB's strongest attacks couldn't bring him to that state. He clearly had a lot of fight left in him.

 

[-Akuma-]

Marco did touch Akainu what are you talking about? Akainu felt the attack it just wasn't strong enough and he pushed Akainu several meters back.

Lmao am I supposed to feel bad for Marco feeling down? Who cares the fact of the matter is Akainu went on to take people of this caliber on. Whether they could hurt him properly or not is not even the point lol, the point is he fought them and had enough energy to do so. He had enough energy to duke it out with top tiers and high tiers.

And don't blame Akainu for being THAT strong. Its like you're blaming Akainu for being strong enough to withstand attacks from Marco and the rest and WB for not having good enough Haki which he clearly didn't as even fodders managed to get to his body.

You're basically agreeing with me by saying Akainu was strong enough to withstand attacks from Marco and the rest. If he was weakened to a certain point......he would be much more vulnerable to attacks from Marco, but clearly WB's strongest attacks couldn't bring him to that state. He clearly had a lot of fight left in him.

Marco literally slashed his neck and lava was oozing out, the attack couldn't bypass his logia body at all.

My goodness my putting WILLPOWER in capitals didn't point it out. None of them couldn't hurt Akainu, meanining no he didn't expand as much energy as you suggest, he couldn't be hurt he could of literally stood there and attack with nothing happening to him. He didn't even want Marco and co either, he wanted Luffy. Akainu COULD LITERALLY DO NOTHING and the pirates wouldn't be bale to put them down.

That wasn't my point, my point was they couldn't hurt him at all. It wasn't much of a fight at all. Yes the WB who had taken attack by the majority of the enemies Top Tiers was killed not because of his injuries making him weaker.....It's because he couldn't stop fodder (Which WB's crew aren't) you have opened my eyes.


I'm not saying that when I was talking about Marco and WB, I was clearly pointing out that MARCO'S HAKI was too weak, not Akainu's. Like seriously you must be read what you want don't you.