Naruto Vs Sasuke timeline tier list
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again, no it doesn't. there is zero evidence throughout the entire manga that indicates clash stalemates = equal rivalry. this isn't dragonball Z. if you and i punched each other at the sametime, and we both were knocked out. does that make us equal fighters? no.
also, his left arm pain has nothing to do with his other arm making rasengan.
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Lol what the hell? Shitty ass example.
1. Strength of the user and strength of their Ninjutsu are directly correlated. Post Time skip Naruto's Rasengan is far stronger than it was pre time skip, so don't sit here and tell me that Jiraiya clashing with kid Sasuke would result in a stalemate. Jiraiya would kill him with ease. Let me guess, you also believe 12 year old Sasuke's Chidori=15 yr old Sasuke's Chidori amiright? :lol
2. Jiraiya has stronger Ninjutsu than Rasengan, and he dominates pts Sasuke in every other area of combat you can name. Naruto has no jutsu stronger than Rasengan nor does he dominate pts Sasuke in every other area of combat, they are dead equals in every other area of combat.
He already did. I suggest you go read the Manga where they fought before you argue with me. KN1 Naruto charges Sasuke, Sasuke gets hit but blocks with his wing. Sasuke is uninjured.
That plus them being equivalent in every other battle area means they are equal. I'm waiting for a real counter argument from you because as usual with this section I'm reading nothing but horseshit. I mean, it's like the portrayal isn't obvious enough to slide into that thick skull of yours. :lol
Lol this will be your last chance to reply with something that makes sense. Reply with more BS and I'll just neg you and be on my way.
1. No, I said BSM Naruto is stronger than EMS Sasuke. Where in the hell did I say that RSM Naruto beat Rinnegan Sasuke? :lol Learn how to read please, it'll make this argument flow much more smoothly. Naruto and Sasuke at VoTE 2 tied in canon.
2. What you are saying makes no sense. Them possessing power equal to each other and them clashing together being a waste of time aren't contradicting statements. :lol
And the rest is something I shouldn't even be wasting my time on, but I will anyway.
-KN1 Naruto beat CS1 Sasuke, but that's irrelevant so do me a favor and don't ever mention it again.
-KN1 Naruto attacked CS2 Sasuke and was easily blocked with Sasuke uninjured. Your whole idiotic argument is that since their clashes are stalemates, they are wastes of time thus they don't illustrate equality even though that whole sentence makes as little sense as something could possibly make.
-CS2 Sasuke fends off KN1 Naruto's physical attacks, while he himself can't harm Naruto without his full power, Chidori. Same goes for Naruto. The only reason KN1 Naruto is above CS1 Sasuke is because of the boost in durability and the fact that his chakra arms have a mind of their own. KN1's actual attacks can be dodged by CS1 Sasuke let alone CS2 Sasuke, who has shown that he can block them as mentioned earlier. Why in the hell are you replying with this nonsense:
When no one ever claimed that he'd be able to dodge them? Lol learn how to read, I'll say that again. Your whole argument is ridiculous, once again. KN1 Naruto and CS2 Sasuke's strongest attacks stalemated in canon, they can canonically fend each other off in close combat as explained above for those who can't read the Manga yet somehow you are actually sitting here saying that Naruto>Sasuke. Smh. I should've expected some nonsense argument from the start.
-In close combat Naruto and Sasuke are equal. Sasuke already dodged Naruto's physical attacks, his chakra cloak attacks can be blocked by his wings. That's canon.
-Strongest abilities are matched.
-Sasuke only won the match because he hit Naruto in the right spot. That's because they are equal in actual ability.
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such a long and garbage statement. i don't even know where to start.
1. kakashi and naruto both clashed with rasengan. the main reason naruto won, is because his had wind into it. has nothing to do with "naruto being stronger than kakashi" but by your flawed logic, you're clearly implying prepain arc naruto > kakashi
2. honestly, my #1 pretty much shut downs your entire point. especially the "strength = ninjutsu" nonsense.
3. black chidori = K1 rasengan does not mean sasuke = naruto. why? because pts 3T sharingan cannot predict it's movements, why would curse seal 2 be any different. wing block? come on, anyone can block. doesn't mean it can counter.
4. again, pts cs2 sasuke shows no new feats aside from a stronger chidori. that alone puts sasuke below naruto. feat wise
5. unlike chidori, rasengan's power (with exception to sage chakra) increases by visible changes. if it do not have a visible differences, then it's equal to any other form like it. that means regular rasengan = regular rasengan. if minato clashes with jiraiya in a rasen battle, it would be equal.
6.Rasengan isn't like dragonball Z, most Nins except chidori has an fix base stat and can ONLY be amplified by a better version of itself. (big ball rasen, K1 rasen, rasenshuriken, bijuu bomb etc) so show me evidence that two of the same jutsus clashing with one overpowering the other. hell even both zabuza and kakashi water dragon style had a clash stalemate does that mean zabuza = kakashi? hell no. therefore ninjutsu is nothing more than a tool, not a measurement of power.
7. last but not least. you're an idiot.
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Real world logic does not apply to the Naruto Manga,
& fact is, Kishi's shown us on more than 3 occasion that an equal clash = equal shinobi.
Exhibit A Vote 1 Base Naruto va 2T Sasuke both their strongest jutsus
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& powers up.Exhibit B Samurai Bridge. Base Naruto's rasengan
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with Base Sasuke's chidori. & As we saw at VOTE 2 Base Naruto = Base Sasuke in all fields.
& What are you talking about in regards to the left arm? Surely not Rasengan I hope cuz Naruto is right handed and always forms it in his right hand. The point about him loosing feeling in the left hand was that the form was harming him, & there was a time limit. CS2 Was the exact same way for Sasuke.
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Sasuke wanted to Kill the Go-kage’s and Naruto stop Him. Sasuke wanted to kill off all the Tailed Beast and Naruto stop Him. Sasuke wanted to be a Dictator and Naruto stop Him. Naruto is the child of Prophecy and Sasuke is not. Naruto is a Sage and Sasuke is not. Naruto is a Tailed Beast Host for all the Tailed Beast and Sasuke is not. Naruto has a bridge and City named for Him and Sasuke dose not. Naruto has Manga’s Named after Him along with movies and Sasuke dose not. Naruto has two children a boy and a girl,Sasuke only has a girl. Any way you slice it and dice it you get the same results They're not equal,Naruto is the winner,Sasuke the Loser. OH and one last thing Naruto is a Kage and Sasuke is NOT.
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Sasuke is smarter, more skilled, and more versatile.
Naruto is more powerful, and has more chakra.
Therefore, they're equal, if not Sasuke being superior.
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Sasuke wanted to kill Danzo, he did.
Sasuke wanted Sakura, he got her.
Sasuke has a manga, so does Lee.
Sasuke is a child of prophecy.
Sasuke started and fueled the ENTIRE Shinobi war.
Tell me again how he lost?
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All is says is Sasuke can only be second place,That Sasuke can only take care of the small potatoes unlike Naruto the Savior of the World,the Uchiha stomper. Remember its in stone a Manga Fact Sasuke said I Quit to Lord Naruto and you can’t change that.
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Once again you moron, Rasengan isn't Kakashi's strongest technique.
Ninjutsu+all other areas of combat means that they are equal. Learn how to read kiddo.
Black Chidori=KN1 Rasengan AND Naruto and Sasuke being tied in other areas of combat means that they are equal. Please learn how to read. Blocking an attack achieves the same result as offensively countering it so I suggest we cut the semantics bullshit out. By your logic KN1 Naruto didn't counter Sasuke's Katon when he used it, even though he did. By tanking it initially.
-This guy claims that Naruto is stronger.
-Naruto lost in canon.
He's shown all the feats he needs to show in order to match KN1. The ability to block his chakra arm attacks, the ability to evade and counter his regular physical attacks that he can track, and the firepower to match his Rasengan. If you weren't such a blithering idiot I wouldn't have to type anything else but that for you to get the point.
That is probably the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time. Go read up on how Ninjutsu works child. Ninjutsu is made with chakra with is Spiritual + Physical energy. Stronger your spiritual energy and physical energy, the stronger your chakra thus the stronger your Ninjutsu. It's hilarious how you say "exception to Sage chakra" when Senjutsu is simply a stronger chakra being introduced to the user's own natural chakra, yet Rasengan doesn't change at all.
-Naruto's Rasengan clashed with Sasuke's enhanced Chidori at VoTE. Not only did it match something a regular Rasengan can't match, it was one half of the explosion that obliterated Hashirama and Madara's statues. So tell me more about how it needs to physically change to get stronger.
If Minato clashes with Jiraiya, he'd win because his Rasengan is bigger. If Minato clashes with PTS Naruto, he'd win because his Rasengan would be stronger than Naruto's.
Stop. Being. An. Idiot.
-Senjutsu makes Rasengan stronger without increasing it's size.
-Kyuubi's chakra made Naruto's Rasengan equal to Sasuke's Enton Chidori at the valley of the end. Created a giant explosion that dwarfs what happened in Part 1.
-Sasuke's Chidori obliterated a Meteor. "Lolol except Chidori" is nothing but some horseshit copout argument you want to use since you know you can't explain why exactly Chidori is stronger.
-In Boruto the Movie, Naruto creates a Rasengan capable of obliterating a Mountain Sized Shinju stump and sending Momoshiki to orbit. That Rasengan wasn't even the size of the Rasengan Naruto and Minato used against Obito while in Bijuu Mode yet it was stronger.
And you've proven that your illiteracy knows no bounds. Don't expect another reply.
Yes because it's a fact, not an opinion. Sasuke needed Bijuu to match Naruto.
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I think that point has been missed about their clashes,
The reason why their clashes end in draw is because these are their strongest justus basically a manifestation of their power at its max and at its max they are equals...that undeniably is a manga fact.
The difference is how this power is different and how differently it used.
Naruto is equal to sasuke in terms of power but dwarfs Sasuke in Chakra reserves
Sasuke is a better strategist than Naruto but Naruto's use of clones is almost impossible to account for (example every fight he's been in lol) however Sasuke has found ways wear down narutos chakra to the point where a clash will end the fight one way or another
The fact the sasuke has smaller chakra reserves forces his fighting style to be more to the point and tries to end it when he can carefully planning out what justu he can use and what will be most effective, Naruto having such large chakra reserve sends wave after wave of clones until he figures out a way to beat an opponent.
The fact that naruto and sasuke are equals power but are totally different in the way they use that power inspires an endless debate good job kishi
The reason why their clashes end in draw is because these are their strongest justus basically a manifestation of their power at its max and at its max they are equals...that undeniably is a manga fact.
The difference is how this power is different and how differently it used.
Naruto is equal to sasuke in terms of power but dwarfs Sasuke in Chakra reserves
Sasuke is a better strategist than Naruto but Naruto's use of clones is almost impossible to account for (example every fight he's been in lol) however Sasuke has found ways wear down narutos chakra to the point where a clash will end the fight one way or another
The fact the sasuke has smaller chakra reserves forces his fighting style to be more to the point and tries to end it when he can carefully planning out what justu he can use and what will be most effective, Naruto having such large chakra reserve sends wave after wave of clones until he figures out a way to beat an opponent.
The fact that naruto and sasuke are equals power but are totally different in the way they use that power inspires an endless debate good job kishi
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Because that is definitely strength. Lol someone get this tard out of here.
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They are not equals even in strength. Naruto is more powerful than Sasuke.