For those saying Boruto manga is canon.

[GreyWizard93]

So your argument us to compare it to an unrelated series?

Good job. No one knows untill kishi says so. Therefore I declare this thread and others of similar taste.. useless.

 

[lndra]

When will people understand the term 'canon'? Did you see Kishi point out that fillers are not canon? Authors don't deal with this term, they won't point out 'something is not canon'.

It's up to the readers to judge. And people will view this as they please, I personally can't consider this canon if it's not Kishi's work.

Pretty bad example of trying to use fillers in this point, especially when most people understand that fillers themselves aren't canon, especially when most of the anime isn't canon itself.

But yeah this is canon. Kishimoto ended Naruto with the Movie, he gave the series to someone else, and he is only handing out bits of advice for the current Naruto.

So whether any of the future works are canon, or not, based on fan opinions doesn't mean jack shit. Especially when most of Japan count everything as canon bar fillers, that includes novels and what-not. The term 'fan canon' doesn't even exist there. Any work of Naruto is considered to be real.

Edit: People realize that Kishimoto passed the torch right? :lol

 

[Honord Sage]

Is DragonBall GT canon?

Law says it canon,Kishi has given permission and is advising and consulting to makes sure it follows canon. And sines only Kishi can say what is and what not is canon you have no legal leg to stand on with your declaration.

 

[Pyro NB]

When will people understand the term 'canon'? Did you see Kishi point out that fillers are not canon? Authors don't deal with this term, they won't point out 'something is not canon'.

It's up to the readers to judge. And people will view this as they please, I personally can't consider this canon if it's not Kishi's work.

What about in cases such as DB or Star Wars? With DB the author made a whole new series continuing were DBZ left of and basically said DB GT never existed. Lucasfilms before Disney established a set canon and EU meanwhile current owner Disney reestablished the canon and said that the EU will now be labeled as "Legends" leaving only the films, animated tv series and any further books as canon. My point is that while not all authors may not deal with this some do and if Kishi the original author and creator of Naruto is working/overseeing this next generation it should be considered canon unless he says otherwise. As for the second bold when is it up for the readers to judge what is and isn't? Isn't that why they gave us data books so we know what is and isn't canon? (Naruto series at least)

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

1 question, no answer just a sea of salt.


is DBGT canon?

 

[lndra]

Using GT as a reference point when it was stated that GT was a filler series :lol

People need to understand that the term canon, promptly doesn't exist for Kishimoto's home country. It's over here that the term sways itself. Since I'm from here, I understand roughly. We usually consider only the Manga canon, or what-ever Kishimoto does personally.

In Japan, anything Naruto related is canon. Though it's universally understood that fillers, aren't canon. I dunno why this point was brought up, considering fillers are used to fill up space between two points, usually done when an Anime reaches the Manga, but SP abuses this way too much.

The new upcoming Manga featuring the next generation, basically has Kishimoto's approval. He stated it in Jump Festa that he was done, but he was going to write/draw a Mitsuki One shot. The Boruto Manga itself, was given to two different people to take over. This isn't a Movie, an anime episode, this is a Manga. It isn't something you can dictate whether you view it as canon or not based on fan opinions. The only person that can say so is either the authors of the Manga, or Kishimoto himself. If you didn't already know Kishimoto gave the rights to someone else, in the lateral term (not as in handing everything Naruto to someone else), but giving the rights for someone to make a Manga from his own series.

What-ever happens, good or bad, doesn't change the fact that this is a serious series.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Using GT as a reference point when it was stated that GT was a filler series :lol

People need to understand that the term canon, promptly doesn't exist for Kishimoto's home country. It's over here that the term sways itself. Since I'm from here, I understand roughly. We usually consider only the Manga canon, or what-ever Kishimoto does personally.

In Japan, anything Naruto related is canon. Though it's universally understood that fillers, aren't canon. I dunno why this point was brought up, considering fillers are used to fill up space between two points, usually done when an Anime reaches the Manga, but SP abuses this way too much.

The new upcoming Manga featuring the next generation, basically has Kishimoto's approval. He stated it in Jump Festa that he was done, but he was going to write/draw a Mitsuki One shot. The Boruto Manga itself, was given to two different people to take over. This isn't a Movie, an anime episode, this is a Manga. It isn't something you can dictate whether you view it as canon or not based on fan opinions. The only person that can say so is either the authors of the Manga, or Kishimoto himself. If you didn't already know Kishimoto gave the rights to someone else, in the lateral term (not as in handing everything Naruto to someone else), but giving the rights for someone to make a Manga from his own series.

What-ever happens, good or bad, doesn't change the fact that this is a serious series.

link me to where its stated GT is filler.

GT was so serious.

 

[lndra]

link me to where its stated GT is filler.

You mean other then the fact that DBZ Gods and the Gods Manga basically shit on its time-line, plot, and shitty characters like Vegeta's brother?

It was even stated that only a few Sayians were left, when they needed to make Goku a SSJ God. None of which existed outside of Earth.

 

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[rinnegan human puppet]

You mean other then the fact that DBZ Gods and the Gods Manga basically shit on its time-line, plot, and shitty characters like Vegeta's brother?

It was even stated that only a few Sayians were left, when they needed to make Goku a SSJ God. None of which existed outside of Earth.

so it was never stated then.

no further questions.

 

[lndra]

so it was never stated then.

no further questions.

Both future works on DBZ done by Akira stated whether it was canon or not.

No further questions.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Both future works on DBZ done by Akira stated whether it was canon or not.

No further questions.

u didnt even ask a question.

link me the movie clip, super episode, interview or official statement where it said GT was filler.

 

[lndra]

And why are people using an animated DBZ series as a way to prove whether a different series is canon or not? Akira wasn't finished with DBZ, as in, handing it to someone else because he was just done with it overall.

Kishimoto wants to work on something else, granted he is still doing a one shot during the Boruto Manga's release date, doesn't change the fact that he handed the series onto someone else.

Hell, the argument would have more grounding if these two were making an animated series on Naruto, therefore the comparisons to GT would be understandable.

Not a freaking Manga series :lol

u didnt even ask a question.

link me the movie clip, super episode, interview or official statement where it said GT was filler.

Read bowflex

You mean other then the fact that DBZ Gods and the Gods Manga basically shit on its time-line, plot, and shitty characters like Vegeta's brother?

It was even stated that only a few Sayians were left, when they needed to make Goku a SSJ God. None of which existed outside of Earth.

You can't argue that GT is canon of any form when it messes up with the story line for the works afterwards.

It's as simple as that.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

And why are people using an animated DBZ series as a way to prove whether a different series is canon or not? Akira wasn't finished with DBZ, as in, handing it to someone else because he was just done with it overall.

Kishimoto wants to work on something else, granted he is still doing a one shot during the Boruto Manga's release date, doesn't change the fact that he handed the series onto someone else.

Hell, the argument would have more grounding of these two were making an animated series on Naruto, therefore the comparisons to GT would be understandable.

Not a freaking Manga series :lol

neither stories were written by the author, neither are canon.(GT, boruto manga)

a naruto manga written by someone other than kishi makes it as good as anime filler.

 

[lndra]

neither stories were written by the author, neither are canon.(GT, boruto manga)

a naruto manga written by someone other than kishi makes it as good as anime filler.

Can you name one Manga series that is filler.

No fan made doujins

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Can you name one Manga series that is filler.

No fan made doujins

boruto the manga.

 

[lndra]

boruto the manga.

LMAO!!

But seriously. Manga series, not anime, are usually canon. In fact, I don't think it's heard of to make a non canon Manga series.

At least I haven't seen it.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Is DragonBall GT canon?

no further questions.

so, boruto will be canon for years, until some other thing set around the time of the last comes out?

LMAO!!

But seriously. Manga series, not anime, are usually canon. In fact, I don't think it's heard of to make a non canon Manga series.

At least I haven't seen it.

dragonball super manga is non canon.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Pretty bad example of trying to use fillers in this point, especially when most people understand that fillers themselves aren't canon, especially when most of the anime isn't canon itself.

But yeah this is canon. Kishimoto ended Naruto with the Movie, he gave the series to someone else, and he is only handing out bits of advice for the current Naruto.

So whether any of the future works are canon, or not, based on fan opinions doesn't mean jack shit. Especially when most of Japan count everything as canon bar fillers, that includes novels and what-not. The term 'fan canon' doesn't even exist there. Any work of Naruto is considered to be real.

Edit: People realize that Kishimoto passed the torch right? :lol

Actually 'fan-canon' does exist, it's called 'fanon', but it's basically fanfic and that's besides our point.

The term 'canon' in fiction is something used by fans to distinguish what content is genuine in the story line.

Using GT as a reference point when it was stated that GT was a filler series :lol

People need to understand that the term canon, promptly doesn't exist for Kishimoto's home country. It's over here that the term sways itself. Since I'm from here, I understand roughly. We usually consider only the Manga canon, or what-ever Kishimoto does personally.

In Japan, anything Naruto related is canon. Though it's universally understood that fillers, aren't canon. I dunno why this point was brought up, considering fillers are used to fill up space between two points, usually done when an Anime reaches the Manga, but SP abuses this way too much.

The new upcoming Manga featuring the next generation, basically has Kishimoto's approval. He stated it in Jump Festa that he was done, but he was going to write/draw a Mitsuki One shot. The Boruto Manga itself, was given to two different people to take over. This isn't a Movie, an anime episode, this is a Manga. It isn't something you can dictate whether you view it as canon or not based on fan opinions. The only person that can say so is either the authors of the Manga, or Kishimoto himself. If you didn't already know Kishimoto gave the rights to someone else, in the lateral term (not as in handing everything Naruto to someone else), but giving the rights for someone to make a Manga from his own series.

What-ever happens, good or bad, doesn't change the fact that this is a serious series.

LMAO!!

But seriously. Manga series, not anime, are usually canon. In fact, I don't think it's heard of to make a non canon Manga series.

At least I haven't seen it.

It's a manga series. It's canon.

You said it yourself @bold1. That is what's universally accepted as canon. This new series however is not done by Kishimoto personally, even if he approves of it, it's still a different author and series all together. Mitsuki's one shot is canon because Kishi will write/draw it, but you're gonna have a hard time trying to convince everyone that the Boruto series is canon, because like we already established, what's universally accepted as canon is Kishimoto's manga serialization.

@Underlined: A manga doesn't have any more credibility than a movie or an anime episode if it's done by a different author. What makes the manga undoubtedly canon is the fact it is Kishimoto's (the creator's) work, and he happens to be a mangaka, but when the mangaka is somebody else, then that's no longer the case, and it doesn't hold anymore relevance than a movie supervised by Kishi.

So like I said previously, this new series doesn't stand on the same ground as Masashi Kishimoto's NARUTO serialization. And 'canon' is a subjective and fan made concept, the only thing that universally accepted as canon is Kishi's manga serialization. Anything else will always be subject to people's opinions.

 

[NineSNS]

It's a manga series. It's canon.