Saudi millionaire 'accidentally tripped and penetrated' girl. doesn't go to jail

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50%? Random statistic.
Stop trying to nitpick shit, I said "probably" meaning there is a high likelihood that the number is close to 50% give or take. According to wikipedia 8 out of 136 reported rapes are false but we only know how many are proven false. The number of false rape victims who never get proven innocent is probably alot higher.
 
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I like what you say and of course it's also bad for the victim's psyche but I don't agree with the fact the victim shouldn't be blamed. I would rather say it should be done with discretion after an over view of the situation. If you read my first post I used the term " Outside the court". It should be made known to her that going to the apartment was a wrong call.
 
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It should be made known to her that going to the apartment was a wrong call.
Well, there is actually a possibility that they guy says the truth and it was the girl who wanted to go up to his flat, and she wanted to have *** too.

As I see no conclusive proof from the girl's / the prosecution's part that the girl's story is true and the man lied...I have my reasonable doubts and so I see why he was acquitted. His story doesn't even matter much, he could have come up with anything, we'd still have nothing more than two narratives explaining how the semen got there. But the girl provided no evidence (witnesses or sign of violence) that substantiate her version.
 

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Stop trying to nitpick shit, I said "probably" meaning there is a high likelihood that the number is close to 50% give or take. According to wikipedia 8 out of 136 reported rapes are false but we only know how many are proven false. The number of false rape victims who never get proven innocent is probably alot higher.
And it's safe to say the number of rapists and pedophiles roaming free transcends the number of falsely convicted victims.

So..
 

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And it's safe to say the number of rapists and pedophiles roaming free transcends the number of falsely convicted victims.

So..
Does that somehow justify putting a innocent man behind bars because the police and justice system suck at doing their job properly?
 

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Does that somehow justify putting a innocent man behind bars because the police and justice system suck at doing their job properly?
That ''innocent'' man wasn't put behind bars though so apparently they did their job right..right?
The only ones dumb enough to not see through the lies of this Saudi are you and that babadoop
 

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That ''innocent'' man wasn't put behind bars though so apparently they did their job right..right?
The only ones dumb enough to not see through the lies of this Saudi are you and that babadoop
He may be lying but I'm very suspicious the girl is lying aswell. If we're not smashing, what the hell are you doing in my house and sleeping on my couch? Especially when I'm screwing your friend in the same place, that little hoe is after his money. She tried setting him up imo. It's not like putting innocent victims behind bars makes up for their failure to catch the true rapists.
 

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He may be lying but I'm very suspicious the girl is lying as well. If we're not smashing, what the hell are you doing in my house and sleeping on my couch? Especially when I'm screwing your friend in the same place, that little hoe is after his money. She tried setting him up imo. It's not like putting innocent victims behind bars makes up for their failure to catch the true rapists.
If she was lying why did he use such ridiculous statements (obvious lies and a mockery to victimized women) in his defence. He would have a better argument if he was innocent.

And if the jurisdicial system was honest and for the people, many government officials would be exposed and punished.

'little hoe'..? hm.
 
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How does it justify you changing "8 out of 136 being innocent" to a made up stats of 50% on a personal whim?
I wasn't trying to be accurate but I'm sure it's up there regardless. The real problem here is when stupid politics and propaganda get in the way of what's right.
If she was lying why did he use such ridiculous statements (obvious lies and a mockery to victimized women) in his defence. He would have a better argument if he was innocent.

And if the jurisdicial system was honest and for the people, many government officials would be exposed and punished.

'little hoe'..? hm.
He's doing what he needs to protect himself and his assets from a gold digging *****.
 

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He's doing what he needs to protect himself and his assets from a gold digging *****.
As far as I know, no demands for financial retribution have been made on her hand.
And here is just one of his many suspicious typically crook statements:

''When arrested, Abdulaziz responded by telling police "She'll have to prove it", the court was told.''
 

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Literally 60% of this thread feels like people just projected their personal problems onto this situation and characters involved, but OT the millionair could've at least given a better excuse then 'I fell" which makes me wonder that he might be a complete rapist but in this case was it 100% deliberate? We don't know any details but from above it does look like he did it on purpose or 'made the accident on purpose' and his money made up for the remaining part to get out free, I'd say the dude was most likely guilty, in my barely informed opinion.
 

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I don't think most people are getting what babadoop is saying.
He isn't siding with the Saudi guy and neither with the girl. He's just stating points of why the jury could have acquitted him.

As for my take on the news. I don't believe in the Saudi man's story and it is likely he bribed coz i don't see any normal person being acquitted with a statement like that. :|
 

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I wasn't trying to be accurate but I'm sure it's up there regardless. The real problem here is when stupid politics and propaganda get in the way of what's right.
I wasn't trying to be accurate but I'm sure it's up there regardless. The real problem here is when stupid politics and propaganda get in the way of what's right.
He's doing what he needs to protect himself and his assets from a gold digging *****.
In other words you just made it up regardless of any actual fact...

Whether the girl was lying or not is not being considered that much because she stuck to her story while the guy kept changing and readjusting his story as new facts came up and the excuse he came up with for the dna found inside the girl was most bizarre. She was wearing shorts(she mentioned and he didn't deny that) and I am assuming more clothes because neither of them mentioned a need for her to dress herself up before she left. How could he penetrate her accidentally with his penis that was sticking out when he fell over? And at the same time he claims the semen came from his hand from an hour earlier got in and wasn't already wiped at half a dozen places he had already been...Did he fall twice?

I really don't care to go more graphic. Believe what you will. But it's really most unlikely story I have ever heard. Accident my foot.

The fact that Jury decided within 30 minutes, on the other hand, implies that they didn't worry over contradiction in his statements but probably were more concerned with the girl indulging in a risk taking behaviour and thus making it about her. ( the same way as you and that's the problematic part here- blaming the victim to be available to be robbed) If there is more to story or not and whether it comes out or not, remains to be seen.

I don't think most people are getting what babadoop is saying.
He isn't siding with the Saudi guy and neither with the girl. He's just stating points of why the jury could have acquitted him.

As for my take on the news. I don't believe in the Saudi man's story and it is likely he bribed coz i don't see any normal person being acquitted with a statement like that. :|
Oh we all get him. We still think jury was either bribed or was blaming the victim. Asking for proof for internet reactions to a funny 'excuse' is something people don't care about.
 
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In other words you just made it up regardless of any actual fact...

Whether the girl was lying or not is not being considered that much because she stuck to her story while the guy kept changing and readjusting his story as new facts came up and the excuse he came up with for the dna found inside the girl was most bizarre. She was wearing shorts and I am assuming more clothes because neither of them mentioned a need for her to dress herself up before she left. How could he penetrate her accidentally with his penis that was sticking out and at the same time the semen residue from an hour earlier got in and wasn't already wiped at half a dozen places he had already been...

I really don't care to go more graphic. Believe what you will. But it's really most unlikely story I have ever heard. Accident my foot.

The fact that Jury decided within 30 minutes on the other hand implies that they didn't worry over contradiction in his statement but probably more concerned with the girl indulging in a risk taking behaviour and thus making it about her. ( the same way as you and that's the problematic part here- blaming the victim to be available to be robbed) If there is more to story or not and whether it comes out or not remains to be seen.
There are no facts because no one knows how many rapists are just blamed for something they didn't do.
 

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This is so ridiculous I'm on the floor LOOOOOOL

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And to the people who are defending this idiot "I Tripped" are truly something else
 
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