Saudi millionaire 'accidentally tripped and penetrated' girl. doesn't go to jail
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Few rape apologists confirmed, idk how would anyone believe in this BS. Rich entitled Saudis getting pass around for their crap everywhere, they harassed me and my sis when i was a teenager in our safest, most comfortable town where even yuppie looking dudebros would not make you uncomfortable. Truly disgusting and Western powers give a lot of pass to these guys. Afterall this did not happen long ago, it is not a surprise that this happened in UK tbh:
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Babadook I do like your point of view that's not jumping straight to conclusions and pointing accusing fingers, But for one fact this case has got gaping holes in it. But on the long run even with the evidence on ground the 45 year old man shoulda'been punished. The dude has got a wife and kid and was friggin stupid enough to drive two women home with the plan to have *** with only one, friggin flaunt his man hood around like its a trophy and was also too weak to just let his precious trophy do some magic on the girl. That's crippy.
On the other hand outside the court, I'm sorry to say but the girl was just friggin stupid, be the fact she was raped or seduced the dude from both points of view she was stupid. Was she homeless that she friggin couldn't go home or was she tied to her friend crap on this side again. I can only see her begging to be raped.
On the other hand outside the court, I'm sorry to say but the girl was just friggin stupid, be the fact she was raped or seduced the dude from both points of view she was stupid. Was she homeless that she friggin couldn't go home or was she tied to her friend crap on this side again. I can only see her begging to be raped.
That too plus I had read an article from UK, sometime back, mentioning that even in proven cases of rape the punishments given were ridiculously light. And that's if they reach the conviction stage which a majority of case never do.
Exactly, there are holes in the whole story, not just in the man's. That's why I appeal to reasonable doubts, and that's what probably the real jurors were thinking, so it's a legally tenable decision
But I implore all you experts here to show your proof if you are so certain that rape took place and the court/jury was bribed. Or else you are just falsly accusing people out of sentiment.
I don't think there is such a thing as begging to be raped.
What makes you think I care about your neg rep? You can negrep the hell out of me, dislike myposts, or even infract me, but that's still not an argument. You still failed to provide proof that the court/jury was bribed, or that the man's story was a lie. Anyway, here:
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(Of course you didn't say word by word 'the verdict was a crook', but that's not what I said either. It's just what you are basically suggesting. )
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I don't think there is such a thing as begging to be raped.[/QUOTE]
Yeah there isn't. I guess what I'm trying to say is more like wrong place wrong time = you should share in the blame to an extent
Yeah there isn't. I guess what I'm trying to say is more like wrong place wrong time = you should share in the blame to an extent
Why would I share in the blame for being at the wrong place in the wrong time? Are the victims of the Paris shooting to be blamed because they happened to be there when the terrorists showed up or what?
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Of course not and that's a different issue. THe girl's issue is more like this; she could have decided not to go to the apartment when she most likely knew her friend was getting down on it that night. She coulda gone and snuggled in bed in her own house. Something of that sort. But I get what you're saying.
And I agree with you
Alright, I also get what you're saying. But had she decided to go home and that saudi man or some random guys on the streets would have still raped her- as it often happens-, I still don't think she should be blamed. Even in this case, if she said the truth, then she was just sleeping on the couch, she didn't do anything to seduce the man- that is, again, if her story is the true one. So no, I don't think a girl is to be blamed if she stays over at an acquaintance's place and the guy happens to be too horny...With that much logic, domestic violence is okay because the woman married that man but she could have just chosen someone else or chosen to leave...Of course not and that's a different issue. THe girl's issue is more like this; she could have decided not to go to the apartment when she most likely knew her friend was getting down on it that night. She coulda gone and snuggled in bed in her own house. Something of that sort. But I get what you're saying.
And I agree with you
What half ass accusation? It's you accusing the man of being a rapist, as well as accusing me of proposing conspiracy theories.
You must be having a problem understanding the words in English, let me help.
conspire:
To plan together secretly to commit an illegal or wrongful act or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
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You suggested that the court might have been bribed. That is, corruption: people agreeing to commit an illegal act to accomplish a legal purpose.
Your proposition fits the definition of conspiration. You are the conspiracy theorist here.
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-His proof seems senseless as heck, there is no such thing as tripping over and accidently raping.
-Rich Saudis get pass for their uncivilized and lowly behaviour a lot...Even in places their culture are not prominent they show off and benefit from their power, i personally experienced it and i know it due to my study field.
-UK and Saudi has fishy relations between each other, as i pointed in that news link.
-Court's decision took a mere half hour.
Yeah the can be apologists if it suits them. It is not odd considering the world we live in.
As i said Saudi rich men get pass everywhere. They have power & certain way of living in their homeland and they can actually implement it every other place.
His source is probably avoiceformen.com
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I'm sorry, but blaming a rape victim, or a victim of any other crime for that matter for being at the "wrong place at the wrong time" or not playing it safe is wrong. It's your responsibility not to assault, murder or rape someone. It isn't your responsibility to not be assaulted or raped by someone else. Now, obviously it's more desirable to plan measures to stay safe rather than play it by ear, but even if someone engages in activity that increases their chances of being the victim of crime they shouldn't be blamed. Victim blaming in general is asinine.
OT: What a terrible incident. :|
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It's the prosecution that needs to present proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Senseless as heck is not a legal phrase to sentence someone, just saying.
But that's not what he pleaded. He said the girl pulled him over onto herself, that's why he tripped, and he was not even sure if he penetrated her.
So you generalize them.
And I know due to my study field that this is a legally tenable decision, there are much worse cases where even I'd suspect something fishy. But I also know from my teachers that there are cases when people were jailed innocently and after having been released years later, they got no compensation. So no, I can't send a man to jail just because you were harrassed or just because some people here think it's bizarre.
The jury's deliberation took half an hour. Watch 12 angry men. In the movie, originally they were about to reach a guilty verdict in 5 minutes. If NB members were jurors in this case, it seems they would have sentenced this man in 5 minutes too, despite there is a chance that he said the truth. But as for myself, based on the little in the article, I could also tell in 5 minutes why the jury acquitted him.
I don't think i was defending a rapist here. He was acquitted, so by legal definition, he is not a rapist. If you have proof that he is still guilty and the court made the wrong decision, please present your proof. All I was trying to do here, which seems to be hard to grasp for most people, is to explain why legally this is tenable and no need to say it must have been bribe. It's really not about believing the story or not.
You still haven't provided proof that the court reached the wrong conclusion. You still haven't explained what is this alleged conspiracy theory of mine you keep talking about.
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